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Does life have significance?
#8021863 - 02/14/08 10:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Simple, Does life have significance? If you answered 'yes' please explain howso. I don't believe so, espessically now since my father is dead and I got this STD....no past, no future...for me at least. Anyways your thoughts and you get 5    from me!
Definition of significance: Noun Singular significance Plural significances
significance (plural significances)
the extent to which something matters; importance As a juror your opinion is of great significance for the outcome trial. meaning
Translations Extent to which something matters;)
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: VisualLearner]
#8021876 - 02/14/08 10:48 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm sorry to hear about your loss. 
Life has whatever significance you are willing to find in it. I hope that you will find something to care about.
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: VisualLearner]
#8021879 - 02/14/08 10:50 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think human life has the same significance as any life. No more or no less.
I think your life matters and has significance to you and that's enough don't you think?
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: Icelander]
#8021883 - 02/14/08 10:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe but I dont think there is any type of after life so why even worrie about the here and now as ram dass would put it. Anyway I dont wanna miss what everyone else has to say so I would rather not debate on it right away
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: VisualLearner]
#8021949 - 02/14/08 11:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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there is nothing to worry about the here and now. it's already here, it's already now. 
i think the significance of life is always relative to what you are observing. for example i find very little significance in myself compared to the astronomical reaches of space, but feel a deep meaning and importance when i look at myself here and now as a human being, interacting with other beings who look just like me.
so it depends where you're standing and how far you choose to look at the horizon. i believe that we create our own significance in life. it's not an exclusive thing that can be determined apart from the experience.
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: AlteredAgain]
#8022009 - 02/14/08 11:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No not really...
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: Raven0us]
#8022059 - 02/14/08 11:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes. What about our advances? Besides the fact that we a destroying earth right now, we have created a technology, and I want to think that we're on our way to a collective consciousness. Think about what we are doing right now; the internet and this forum; all of this information is floating about in hyper space or whatever... we created this alternative reality that is just a pool of knowledge.. you never know, it could be analogous to our minds. so i do think we have some importance in this universe. but hey, maybe it's just me being naive?
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: VisualLearner]
#8022188 - 02/14/08 12:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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VisualLearner said: Maybe but I dont think there is any type of after life so why even worrie about the here and now as ram dass would put it. Anyway I dont wanna miss what everyone else has to say so I would rather not debate on it right away
Who said anything about worry? That's no way to enjoy your limited time here. Try and have a laugh or two, that's all. Enjoy the temporariness of it. And so we die; that's a really really good thing IMO.
What you are dealing with here IMO is death anxiety.
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: Icelander]
#8022234 - 02/14/08 12:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: VisualLearner]
#8022339 - 02/14/08 12:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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VisualLearner said: Maybe but I dont think there is any type of after life so why even worrie about the here and now as ram dass would put it. Anyway I dont wanna miss what everyone else has to say so I would rather not debate on it right away
Ok, so let's suppose for a second that there is an after life. And let's say that you live your life because you know you will have an after life, and then the after life becomes the purpose of this life. Fast forward a few years or decades and you die and... there you are, in the after life. Now what? Will you live your after life better and happier than you live this life? I've learned that as long as I am unable to enjoy the current reality, everything else is illusion and never happens. Let's say I am now unhappy but I live at the thought that in the future I will have some things happen to me that will make me happy. And I keep waiting and waiting and here's how time goes by and I am still miserable.  What you (and anyone else) could do instead of that is to actually start acknowledging what you have in the present moment, all the opportunities to grow and experience life at it's fullest, no matter the circumstance. Any experience is just as valuable as the other, what differs is the interpretations we give them. And we can always change them in a way that serves us best.
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#8022388 - 02/14/08 01:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Any experience is just as valuable as the other, what differs is the interpretations we give them. And we can always change them in a way that serves us best. So how should I start to interpretate things? I mean I cant have sex cause of what I caught, so no kids, and my dad is gone so how do I interpretate these type of things, i guess is my real question?
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: VisualLearner]
#8022405 - 02/14/08 01:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: VisualLearner]
#8022408 - 02/14/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can have sex with yourself. You don't need kids to be happy, that's for sure. Every door that closes on your life opens another one if you will just become unaddicted to having life go any certain way. Each and every person must face this to some degree. The doors that open can become far better than the ones that close. And since we die in the end not any of it matters as far as we know, so you can even become detached from anything working out like you planned and just go with the flow, that's the warriors way.
"Every path is only a path. They lead into the bush and out of the bush. And in the end all the paths meet, and the only thing of any importance was, did this path have a heart." -Don Juan
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: Icelander]
#8022414 - 02/14/08 01:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just not satisfying enough IMO
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: VisualLearner]
#8022424 - 02/14/08 01:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Then you will reap the rewards of that belief. Life doesn't care if you don't like the way it works.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: VisualLearner]
#8022484 - 02/14/08 01:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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VisualLearner said: Any experience is just as valuable as the other, what differs is the interpretations we give them. And we can always change them in a way that serves us best. So how should I start to interpretate things? I mean I cant have sex cause of what I caught, so no kids, and my dad is gone so how do I interpretate these type of things, i guess is my real question?
You stop taking them personal. I think that's the first real and important step that you could take. As soon as you realize that you're not the only one in this situation and that live goes on. It might seem unimportant, but as long as you don't become aware of its deepest meaning, you will consider yourself a victim. And as long as you do that you will also behave like one. Now tell me, did ever see a happy victim?
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#8022495 - 02/14/08 01:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: Icelander]
#8022509 - 02/14/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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my opinion is it ultimately has no significance. on a superficial lever though it does, its fun at times, intense, horrifying, beautiful, ect. these experiences mean something to me now on some level, but only because i give them meaning, they are insignificant ultimately.
the other side of the coin would be if life never were, that would have no significance, and so i fail to see how life could be significant. there may be two sides of a coin, but there's only one coin. either life is, or it isn't. it matters not. if life were to end tomarrow, then life today would be entirely insignificant today, as well as tomarrow. if it continues forever, it is also of no consequence. it just is as it is.
follow? i feel its getting harder and harder for me to accurately communicate my understandings and ideas. how about instead of continuing to try to explain i'll just vote no, life is insignificant
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: Archemetis]
#8022550 - 02/14/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i feel its getting harder and harder for me to accurately communicate my understandings and ideas.
This could be because you're confusing your thoughts with someone else's thoughts in my opinion. Life is meaningless in the end (BTW which of them?) for some and full of meaning for others. For instance you can throw the atomic bomb and this action will make a difference not only for many of the living creatures inhabiting this planet, but for the planet itself... even though it might not matter for this universe and its immensity. Not even for out solar system. But the sun dying would make a difference for the entire solar system. So from whose perspective are you talking?
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Re: Does life have significance? [Re: Archemetis]
#8022555 - 02/14/08 01:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The fact that you asked this question is proof of life having significance.
It must mean something if you are gonna acknowledge and think about it.
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