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    #8019471 - 02/13/08 08:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

So there's been some media saying how Americans Passports will include ID chips in new passports soon, and ultimately will be injecting people with the chips.

Im looking for more info on the specifics of this. Is it true that these chips will be mandatory for the common citizen within our lifetimes.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
    #8019483 - 02/13/08 08:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

would the government really spend that much money to do that? I would figure they would rather spend the money fighting other countries. I guess its possible...but that sounds pretty freaky..."injecting chips" that sounds very evil.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: aDoS]
    #8019492 - 02/13/08 08:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i will never have a 'chip' injected into me.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: aDoS]
    #8019495 - 02/13/08 08:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i bet its against some amendment to deem it necessary to put anything we don't want in our bodies especially a chip ill never agree ill go out kicking


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Re: RFID chips [Re: milkman]
    #8019565 - 02/13/08 08:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well, its illegal to put thing we want into out bodies. (drugs) Why not make it mandatory to put things we don't want in there.

BTW, the RFID are already in new passports.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: shymanta]
    #8019602 - 02/13/08 08:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

it already is mandatory to put things into our body.

Floride in our water.

sugar pretty much is, i mean good luck finding food without it

all the bullshit chemicals in our food thats not needed.

co2

all of the above could be avoidable


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Re: RFID chips [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8019635 - 02/13/08 09:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ya fuck this shit. 

Never.

I saw something on the news the other day about chips in a mandatory national ID card, lol, i predicted this years ago the reason is illegal immegrants and terrorists.:rofl:

Everyone looked at me like i was crazy when i said it.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8019638 - 02/13/08 09:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

it doesn't cost much for a RFID chip. i saw it on tv. it cost less then 2 cents to make. and the chip is so small they can stick it in a syringe and inject you with it.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
    #8019723 - 02/13/08 09:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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PDU said:
Is it true that these chips will be mandatory for the common citizen within our lifetimes.





hot debate about it being used on prisoners and school children

as part of ensuring that our food supply is safe they're trying to do it with
livestock, of course they make the claim of health by citing anthrax and mad cow
but other problems are sure to arise to put an even bigger scare into us.
currently the program is voluntary but it's predicted to be mandatory by 2009
and so far theres lots of operations cooperating and many more that refuse.



people should be concerned, it may put the small farmers under, it's those
little guys that are keeping prices more competitive. Why should you care since
you're a vegan? it's simply another first step, another something that will get
us all accustomed to these chips



the official program
http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/index.shtml

ron pauls view (just found it on google)
http://www.truthnews.net/world/2006050031.htm

NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/13/us/13animals.html


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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
    #8019814 - 02/13/08 09:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's really pretty convenient (passports only) and I'm all for it. They just need to lower the range at which they're readable and tighten up the security.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: shymanta]
    #8019834 - 02/13/08 09:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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shymanta said:
BTW, the RFID are already in new passports.




Couldnt you just find out where the chip was located and cut it out? like im sure its on one of the corners of the front of the passport, couldnt you just cut the corner off?


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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
    #8019847 - 02/13/08 09:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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PDU said:
So there's been some media saying how Americans Passports will include ID chips in new passports soon, and ultimately will be injecting people with the chips.

Im looking for more info on the specifics of this. Is it true that these chips will be mandatory for the common citizen within our lifetimes.




thats old news i was telling people that here and they just said this

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Re: RFID chips [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #8019876 - 02/13/08 09:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

its said if you don't do this you will be imprisoned, do to national security.
its also said countless people will hate the new world order and will die protesting against it.

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Re: RFID chips [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #8019901 - 02/13/08 09:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yep. it's called tip-toe totalitarianism.

make small gradual changes until people become desensitized to the issue. newspeak media plays a big role in this.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #8019914 - 02/13/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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drkrobotnik said:
i will never have a 'chip' injected into me.






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Re: RFID chips [Re: JTB22]
    #8019937 - 02/13/08 10:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

its called the frog in the pot, its called incrementalism


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Re: RFID chips [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #8020146 - 02/13/08 10:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

shymanta said:
BTW, the RFID are already in new passports.




Couldnt you just find out where the chip was located and cut it out? like im sure its on one of the corners of the front of the passport, couldnt you just cut the corner off?




You can microwave them to neutralize the chip. However, your passport may be deemed invalid due to tampering.



My roommates seem to think that Canada is now a subsiduary of the US and eventually we will have to submit to RFID's (based on zeitgeist.) I disagree whole heartedly ... but the possible reality is very scary to me.

I would either live in the woods (working on that as a life goal anyways.) ... or kill myself protesting. Swear on my grave, i would not knowingly accept a chip. However, thats another scenerio - being unknowingly chipped while in hospital care, or other government care (jail?) - I can not possibly imagine my government condoning such measures..

There seems to be a large resistance already started.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
    #8020929 - 02/14/08 02:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)



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    #8020949 - 02/14/08 02:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You can count on ThinkGeek to do everything right and AWESOME. Fuck I love that site.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: AlCapwn]
    #8020986 - 02/14/08 02:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i just dont see why we have to make a way, we are the people.
we have the power in numbers.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #8020991 - 02/14/08 03:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yep, were all boiled frogs and the water's getting hotter. That being said they can implant the chip in my dead body after I take a few of them with me.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: Gratos]
    #8021001 - 02/14/08 03:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

will we ever say NO and stand behind it?


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Re: RFID chips [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #8021040 - 02/14/08 03:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Meh, who knows?
Im no expert on people or politics but Id say things are going to get a whole lot worse before the majority stands up. Funny thing is the majority thinks these changes are for the better, fucking sad isnt it? I blame a equal mix of religion and ignorance/pride.
Its gunna take a hell of a lot (think nuked city) before people will be down with implanting chips in there bodies too, people just wont do it or subject their kids to it. This is all my opinion of course, fuck I dont even live in the US as of a few months ago.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: robbyberto]
    #8021084 - 02/14/08 05:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Id be cool to find lost passports. But they had better not try to inject me with a chip. Gir death to all who try


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Re: RFID chips [Re: Cubie]
    #8021437 - 02/14/08 08:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

can you say mark of the beast


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    #8021649 - 02/14/08 09:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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can you say mark of the beast




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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
    #8021692 - 02/14/08 09:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

They won't implement this for at least a few decades...there would be too much dissent.

What is much more likely to happen is we start chipping our kids, when they are too young to notice/care. Then the kids grow up with the idea that having chips inside them is an OK thing. Nothing to worry about. Give it a generation or two from now...and they wont have to "make" anyone accept it, we already will have.

They are already doing this. There are a handful of people (200 last time I checked) that are already implanted. It begins small...


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Re: RFID chips [Re: trendal]
    #8021711 - 02/14/08 10:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

That is because it is an 'ok' thing. The chips will store SSN numbers, bank account information, medical information, etc. They are extremely useful. If someone is unconscious and can't relay their medical information all they have to do is scan the information from the chip. I don't see why this is necessarily going to be a technology abused by the government.



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Re: RFID chips [Re: trendal]
    #8021744 - 02/14/08 10:10 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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They won't implement this for at least a few decades...there would be too much dissent. What is much more likely to happen is we start chipping our kids





you're wrong and right, it starts with kids and prisoners first, it's happening
everywhere under the guise of 'child safety', while it's not an implant yet it
wont be that long before it is


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http://investor.com.com/Japan+school+kids+to+be+tagged+with+RFID+chips/2100-1012_3-5266700.html
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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
    #8021759 - 02/14/08 10:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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So there's been some media saying how Americans Passports will include ID chips in new passports soon, and ultimately will be injecting people with the chips.

Im looking for more info on the specifics of this. Is it true that these chips will be mandatory for the common citizen within our lifetimes.




all new passports already have them. thing is you can eat a chip and never even know it.

Nanotechnology.....


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Re: RFID chips [Re: robbyberto]
    #8021760 - 02/14/08 10:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't see why this is necessarily going to be a technology abused by the government.





it's not just the government that you need to worry about, with all the info that
you're saying may be on those chips it's available to everyone that wants
it. mediacl records are now accessable from virtually everywhere theres a
medical facility

as for abuse by government, how many time has something that's had a potential for
abuse by government not been exploited by them... I can think of none


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    #8021761 - 02/14/08 10:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I meant that they wouldn't make everyone do it for a few decades...they are already doing it to a handful of people (all "voluntary" of course) and I expect them to do it to all kids within a few years.


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    #8021771 - 02/14/08 10:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The only way a chip is going into me is when i'm on the floor riddled with bullets.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: trendal]
    #8021806 - 02/14/08 10:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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they are already doing it to a handful of people (all "voluntary" of course)





I like the way you say 'voluntary', the school my son goes to adheres to very
strict bussing guidelines, when the bus arrives the kids that need that bus are
loaded, a sheet is handed to the driver by the teacher denoting which children
are on the bus, as the driver drops them off they're marked off the list, the
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Re: RFID chips [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8021912 - 02/14/08 10:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think security has been thought out a little better than you think. We shall see how it all turns out.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: robbyberto]
    #8021936 - 02/14/08 11:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I believe it's all been planned out exactly as I think, as for security, there is
only that which I provide for in my life and much of that being securing myself
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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
    #8022090 - 02/14/08 11:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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So there's been some media saying how Americans Passports will include ID chips in new passports soon, and ultimately will be injecting people with the chips.

Im looking for more info on the specifics of this. Is it true that these chips will be mandatory for the common citizen within our lifetimes.




Of course.

It's all in the "Patriot Act". Without a doubt it's completely unconstitutional, but, it's already being implemented. This has been in the works since the technologies inception.

Even the fuckin' Bible says in Revelation of a tag that will be in our hand or on our heads.

I mean and the saddest thing is, is that the American people are demanding this bullshit. In the name of "safety".


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Re: RFID chips [Re: mathewww]
    #8022282 - 02/14/08 12:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I found out just recently that the editing software company Avid that I use on a regular basis is a microchip producer. I found it very odd.

If you work in a federal office you may not receive access to the building or even a paycheck unless chipped. It a very scary thing.

No more cash, no more credit. Everything in life goes through your individual chip. Life could be made difficult and miserable without a chip.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #8022312 - 02/14/08 12:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm capable of living independently of this government, self sufficiency is k3y


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    #8022350 - 02/14/08 12:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: RFID chips [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8022355 - 02/14/08 01:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

except the gov has that all planned out well to...overpopulation...is the key. Their will only be large plots of land for farmers, and only corps will be allowed to farm.

think newyork, nobody their has room to live off the land

you might get a few meals indoors from hydro or something but other than that you gotta work and get scanned


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    #8022361 - 02/14/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: RFID chips [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8022369 - 02/14/08 01:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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except the gov has that all planned out well to...





I'm sure there's much they planned for, there's also much they never expect
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Re: RFID chips [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8022373 - 02/14/08 01:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

RFID tags can be destroyed easily, by hitting them with microwave frequencies, which can be manipulated on old microwaves and disposable cameras.

http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2006/01/weapons_the_rfi.html

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Re: RFID chips [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #8022384 - 02/14/08 01:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yes they are already in passports, and the solution is simple



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Re: RFID chips [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #8022427 - 02/14/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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RFID tags can be destroyed easily




I dont wish to destroy the chip, I simply will not have one, nor shall my family


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Re: RFID chips [Re: Shroomism]
    #8022443 - 02/14/08 01:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Yes they are already in passports, and the solution is simple







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Re: RFID chips [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #8022625 - 02/14/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yes but we are also scared people. we pay the people in power with our tax money but yet we take orders from them. we gave them the power to control us and then we whine about how we hate the way they think.

like myself, i would love peace and freedom, but i don't know where to start or what to do to get it. all i can do is vote for the next dumbass to control me.


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    #8022859 - 02/14/08 03:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Yep, were all boiled frogs and the water's getting hotter. That being said they can implant the chip in my dead body after I take a few of them with me.



Ya Im not a violent person, but if they come to my house and tell me I HAVE to get an RFID chip implanted in my skin and try to force me into it there are gonna be some dead assholes on my front lawn. I encourage everyone to do the same. Maybe then the government will learn when enough is enough.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8022867 - 02/14/08 03:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Yep, were all boiled frogs and the water's getting hotter. That being said they can implant the chip in my dead body after I take a few of them with me.



Ya Im not a violent person, but if they come to my house and tell me I HAVE to get an RFID chip implanted in my skin and try to force me into it there are gonna be some dead assholes on my front lawn. I encourage everyone to do the same.  Maybe then the government will learn when enough is enough.




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Re: RFID chips [Re: Cubie]
    #8022890 - 02/14/08 03:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

lol check out the "robo" suit that they have now, it looks like it won't be very long till you havn't got a choice to fight back


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Re: RFID chips [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #8023633 - 02/14/08 06:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

There was an excellent article in this month's Scientific American;


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More than 22 million visitors attended the Expo 2005 World's Fair in Aichi, Japan. Not one got in with a bogus ticket. The passes were practically impossible to forge because each harbored a tiny RFID (radio-frequency identification) chip - just 0.4 millimeter (mm) on a side and 0.06 mm thick - that transmitted a unique identification number via radio waves to a scanner at the gates.

Now Hitachi, the maker of that chip, is aiming even smaller. Last year it announced a working version of a chip only 0.05 mm on a side and 0.005 mm thick. Almost invisible, this prototype has one sixty-fourth the area yet incorporates the same functions as the one in the Expo tickets. Its minuteness, which will allow it to be embedded in ordinary sheets of paper, heralds an era in which almost anything can be discreetly tagged and read by a scanner that it need not touch.




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Re: RFID chips [Re: snoot]
    #8023802 - 02/14/08 06:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

What type of information is stored on the passport chip?


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Re: RFID chips [Re: Broooodward]
    #8023812 - 02/14/08 06:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

probebly social security number or dna or something. Maybe you're fingure print


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Re: RFID chips [Re: mathewww]
    #8023833 - 02/14/08 06:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Even the fuckin' Bible says in Revelation of a tag that will be in our hand or on our heads.






Thats one source i trust about as much as uncle sam...


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    #8023870 - 02/14/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.wanttoknow.info/brighterfuture

Feel like you're being followed? Maybe it's a tracking tag on your jeans or one implanted in a credit card. The tags are called radio frequency identification or RFIDs, and every day they are becoming more and more a part of our lifestyle. These Orwellian microchips, as minute as a grain of sand, identify and track products and even lost children at theme parks. They're being implanted in humans to alert hospitals about medical conditions. The tags can be so tiny, you may never know they are there. Retailers claim RFIDs are essential: alerting them when they're low on lipstick, air filters, sodas and other inventory. Embedded tags aren't so obvious. Hitachi Europe recently developed the world's tiniest RFID integrated circuit, small enough to be placed in a piece of paper. Some RFID chips are made to be imbedded in livestock, in pets and most recently in humans for a variety of reasons. RFID prices have dropped, and tagging has become practical for businesses. In-Stat, a high-tech research firm, reports more than 1 billion RFID chips were made last year and predicts that by 2010 the number will increase to 33 billion. Slightly larger than a grain of rice, RFID chips from VeriChip of Florida are manufactured for implanting in humans. The Food and Drug Administration approved human implants two yea


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Re: RFID chips [Re: Broooodward]
    #8023935 - 02/14/08 06:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Even the fuckin' Bible says in Revelation of a tag that will be in our hand or on our heads.






Thats one source i trust about as much as uncle sam...


well they are most likely in cahoots.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8024066 - 02/14/08 07:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

RFID chips first came to my attention upon watching zeitgeist. They sure do tie in well with the "New World Order" conspiracy. If I should be getting one anytime soon, you bet it'll be hammered/microwaved/whatever breaks it.


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    #8024084 - 02/14/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Will RFID's be used internationally?

Say in South America?


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    #8024091 - 02/14/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

anywhere a terrorist can hide, so yes world motherfucking wide


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Re: RFID chips [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8026150 - 02/15/08 07:56 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You can bet chips will also be in all monetary systems as well. Cash - the last frontier of anonymity, gone!


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Re: RFID chips [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #8027391 - 02/15/08 01:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

damn, i always thought this bullshit would happen one day, so what, they're saying sooner than later?


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    #8027454 - 02/15/08 01:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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You can bet chips will also be in all monetary systems as well. Cash - the last frontier of anonymity, gone!




Already have RFID tags in euros and dollars.


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    #8027822 - 02/15/08 03:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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You can bet chips will also be in all monetary systems as well. Cash - the last frontier of anonymity, gone!




Already have RFID tags in euros and dollars.




I couldn't find any information on this. Do you have an article link?


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Re: RFID chips [Re: DragonChaser]
    #8027845 - 02/15/08 03:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thankfully I only pay for things with my gold from the bag of jew-gold i keep around my neck.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #8029525 - 02/15/08 10:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Interesting, but, those sources seem minimally credible.

Not writing that off, just waiting for more stories/coverage/proof on that.


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    #8148239 - 03/15/08 01:16 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

If we refuse the chip, the chip will fail. Simple as that. Start with the READ ID. Microwave it. Microwave your license card. Do not accept it!

One of the larges religions in the world (Christianity) is a viable excuse not to submit to the mark (chip).

Our right to arm ourselves has essentially been taken. We can't form any group that even looks like a military force.

We must build networks that can stay hidden, quickly organize when needed, and fade into the night after.

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    #8148302 - 03/15/08 01:50 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

lol, if they want everyone chipped, and i plan on doing anything illegal or shady, i'll just go get a fake ID chip down at the DMV... just like you can do with ID cards now.


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    #8154960 - 03/16/08 08:35 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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damn, i always thought this bullshit would happen one day, so what, they're saying sooner than later?





I can't honestly imagine a future without some kind of RFID, a chip thats .05x.005mm is intensly small and cheap, not only that the economic and efficiency benefits would far outweigh any kind of privacy advocation.


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Re: RFID chips [Re: snoot]
    #8155756 - 03/16/08 11:44 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

After I got my passport and made it overseas I had my friend run it over with her car repeatedly, I left it on the porch overnight, got too drunk and dropped it in a beer mug, fell in a lake with it in my pocket, and basically did all I could (intentionally and unintentionally) to make sure that little bugger wasn't tracking me anymore. It worked, at Frankfurt the woman scanned it twice, looked annoyed and then did it with the bar code.


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    #8155852 - 03/17/08 12:16 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I got a new passport before the fuckers started puttin those chips in them. :smirk:


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