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PDU
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RFID chips
#8019471 - 02/13/08 08:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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So there's been some media saying how Americans Passports will include ID chips in new passports soon, and ultimately will be injecting people with the chips.
Im looking for more info on the specifics of this. Is it true that these chips will be mandatory for the common citizen within our lifetimes.
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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
#8019483 - 02/13/08 08:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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would the government really spend that much money to do that? I would figure they would rather spend the money fighting other countries. I guess its possible...but that sounds pretty freaky..."injecting chips" that sounds very evil.
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Re: RFID chips [Re: aDoS]
#8019492 - 02/13/08 08:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i will never have a 'chip' injected into me.
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Re: RFID chips [Re: aDoS]
#8019495 - 02/13/08 08:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i bet its against some amendment to deem it necessary to put anything we don't want in our bodies especially a chip ill never agree ill go out kicking
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Re: RFID chips [Re: milkman]
#8019565 - 02/13/08 08:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, its illegal to put thing we want into out bodies. (drugs) Why not make it mandatory to put things we don't want in there.
BTW, the RFID are already in new passports.
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Re: RFID chips [Re: shymanta]
#8019602 - 02/13/08 08:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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it already is mandatory to put things into our body.
Floride in our water.
sugar pretty much is, i mean good luck finding food without it
all the bullshit chemicals in our food thats not needed.
co2
all of the above could be avoidable
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Ya fuck this shit.
Never.
I saw something on the news the other day about chips in a mandatory national ID card, lol, i predicted this years ago the reason is illegal immegrants and terrorists.
Everyone looked at me like i was crazy when i said it.
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it doesn't cost much for a RFID chip. i saw it on tv. it cost less then 2 cents to make. and the chip is so small they can stick it in a syringe and inject you with it.
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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
#8019723 - 02/13/08 09:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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PDU said: Is it true that these chips will be mandatory for the common citizen within our lifetimes.
hot debate about it being used on prisoners and school children
as part of ensuring that our food supply is safe they're trying to do it with livestock, of course they make the claim of health by citing anthrax and mad cow but other problems are sure to arise to put an even bigger scare into us. currently the program is voluntary but it's predicted to be mandatory by 2009 and so far theres lots of operations cooperating and many more that refuse.
people should be concerned, it may put the small farmers under, it's those little guys that are keeping prices more competitive. Why should you care since you're a vegan? it's simply another first step, another something that will get us all accustomed to these chips
the official program http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/index.shtml
ron pauls view (just found it on google) http://www.truthnews.net/world/2006050031.htm
NY Times http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/13/us/13animals.html
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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
#8019814 - 02/13/08 09:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's really pretty convenient (passports only) and I'm all for it. They just need to lower the range at which they're readable and tighten up the security.
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Re: RFID chips [Re: shymanta]
#8019834 - 02/13/08 09:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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shymanta said: BTW, the RFID are already in new passports.
Couldnt you just find out where the chip was located and cut it out? like im sure its on one of the corners of the front of the passport, couldnt you just cut the corner off?
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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
#8019847 - 02/13/08 09:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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PDU said: So there's been some media saying how Americans Passports will include ID chips in new passports soon, and ultimately will be injecting people with the chips.
Im looking for more info on the specifics of this. Is it true that these chips will be mandatory for the common citizen within our lifetimes.
thats old news i was telling people that here and they just said this
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its said if you don't do this you will be imprisoned, do to national security. its also said countless people will hate the new world order and will die protesting against it.
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yep. it's called tip-toe totalitarianism.
make small gradual changes until people become desensitized to the issue. newspeak media plays a big role in this.
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Quote:
drkrobotnik said: i will never have a 'chip' injected into me.
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Re: RFID chips [Re: JTB22]
#8019937 - 02/13/08 10:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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its called the frog in the pot, its called incrementalism
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Quote:
KillerPicklez said:
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shymanta said: BTW, the RFID are already in new passports.
Couldnt you just find out where the chip was located and cut it out? like im sure its on one of the corners of the front of the passport, couldnt you just cut the corner off?
You can microwave them to neutralize the chip. However, your passport may be deemed invalid due to tampering.
My roommates seem to think that Canada is now a subsiduary of the US and eventually we will have to submit to RFID's (based on zeitgeist.) I disagree whole heartedly ... but the possible reality is very scary to me.
I would either live in the woods (working on that as a life goal anyways.) ... or kill myself protesting. Swear on my grave, i would not knowingly accept a chip. However, thats another scenerio - being unknowingly chipped while in hospital care, or other government care (jail?) - I can not possibly imagine my government condoning such measures..
There seems to be a large resistance already started.
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Re: RFID chips [Re: PDU]
#8020929 - 02/14/08 02:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: RFID chips [Re: Crasher]
#8020949 - 02/14/08 02:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: RFID chips [Re: AlCapwn]
#8020986 - 02/14/08 02:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i just dont see why we have to make a way, we are the people. we have the power in numbers.
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