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Lost 3 tubs to Casing Contam..wtf?!
    #8018579 - 02/13/08 05:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ok i've used the 50/50+ tek last summer and had super results from my flushes. Now, on my last 3 tubs that I've cased with 50/50 have suffered trich contam before flush. I'm convinced that this 'batch' of peat moss i have has the trich spores. It's the Schultz brand from one of the big box stores. I've pasturized, PC'd and microwaved on all 3. No way to avoid it. I suppose I'll have to go with just verm casing since I can't get away from the trich spores in the peat moss. Anybody use coir for the 50/50 casing?


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Re: Lost 3 tubs to Casing Contam..wtf?! [Re: Weed_Indicated]
    #8018598 - 02/13/08 05:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You sterilized your casings after pasteurization? That would be problematic.


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Re: Lost 3 tubs to Casing Contam..wtf?! [Re: Weed_Indicated]
    #8018610 - 02/13/08 05:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

coir is very nutritious...

but you'll need to supply more nitrogen to the mix,
so try hydrated lime, or oyster shells added to the mix..
test ph if possible.

also, coir/verm is used has the bulk sub, added with spawn grains, or crumbled brf cakes...

once that has colonized, try no casing at all,
you could add some verm over the colonized sub,
to retain moisture...that is just something, some folks do.

use peatmoss, but if your having no luck, I wouldnt case the bulks at all.

just my 2cents!

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Re: Lost 3 tubs to Casing Contam..wtf?! [Re: JusListen]
    #8018740 - 02/13/08 05:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I am making the 50/50+ mix to spec, with hydrated lime. It seems i just have a really badly contamed batch of peat moss. I think I'll try another brand/vendor.

I'm not doing all 3 to one casing batch. I've tried all 3 on different batches. I've usually had zero problem with casing when pasturising, but this damn batch of PM just refuses to stay uncontamed.

BTW my bulk sub IS Coir.


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Re: Lost 3 tubs to Casing Contam..wtf?! [Re: Weed_Indicated]
    #8018855 - 02/13/08 06:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have found that Trich usually comes from one or all of the following

Casing has too much moisture-not enough FAE-not enough light

Mold loves dark, humid stagnant places. But if I had to guess, I would say the moisture content was wrong.


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Re: Lost 3 tubs to Casing Contam..wtf?! [Re: Weed_Indicated]
    #8018884 - 02/13/08 06:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Where do you have your tubs? Do you fan them or do you have latent air exchange? Do you 'check up' on them constantly?

I would advise having an airpurifier or ion generator in the same room. also, try not to check up on them every 5 minutes. instead of fanning, i prefer to poke some holes, cover with tyvek or some type of microtape and just set it and forget it until harvest. the less you handle it, the better.


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Re: Lost 3 tubs to Casing Contam..wtf?! [Re: maynardsdick]
    #8018974 - 02/13/08 07:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ive had this same problem on my last two tubs. while im waiting for mycelium to poke through the casing layer it contams.

have you put yours into fruiting conditions before it contam'd or are you just like me and it contams before you even get to put it into fruiting?

is it possible to have trich spores in your peat? im about to put a casing layer on a mono and i dont want it to contam again.


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Re: Lost 3 tubs to Casing Contam..wtf?! [Re: blood4blood]
    #8019002 - 02/13/08 07:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

all peat is loaded with trich spores.


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Re: Lost 3 tubs to Casing Contam..wtf?! [Re: large_dose]
    #8019006 - 02/13/08 07:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

proper pasteurization should eliminate those though right?


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Re: Lost 3 tubs to Casing Contam..wtf?! [Re: blood4blood]
    #8019103 - 02/13/08 07:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yes


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