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off grid organic intentional community in oregon
    #8018132 - 02/13/08 03:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

anyone want to help get this community started. i'm set up to grow food,ethnobotanicals and make biodiesel, lumber. free stay as long as you help out. i've had volunteers the past two seasons, but want more serious people around.pm me if you want.


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8018136 - 02/13/08 03:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i wish i lived in oregon. i'd certainly join up to feel it out.


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8018141 - 02/13/08 03:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hell no


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: TheCow]
    #8018149 - 02/13/08 03:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I would love to help.


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: NationofStrangers]
    #8018181 - 02/13/08 03:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

sounds cool, yet i have a few issues id like to settle here in LA first before i leave.


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8018187 - 02/13/08 03:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

this sounds like it could be fun can you give me some more details
i am not afraid of working my fair share
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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: discourse55]
    #8018200 - 02/13/08 03:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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discourse55 said:
can you give me some more details




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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #8018261 - 02/13/08 03:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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discourse55 said:
can you give me some more details








Were in Oregon?  I am here :laugh:


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #8018266 - 02/13/08 04:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

some more details: i sell produce/berries in eugene. i have a woodmizer sawmill that allows me to make nice lumber from the clearcut slash piles for free. 20'x40' greenhouse.10'x20' greenhouse. 21 acre property with smith river running through the center. spring water for irrigation and drinking. central boiler wood burning furnace for heat.3 acres deer fenced.chinchilla barn for manure.i'm an anarchist. lots of good building sites for cottages. money i or we make from the produce goes back to the farm. meals will be provided for helping out and kitchen duties should be shared. i have to be on a gluten free diet though so i can't provide any wheat type meals. if you want wheat products, you'll have to get those yourself and keep them out of the main kitchen. it's really a beautiful place and the work is fun. any other rules will have to be made up within a concensus of the people who show up. i don't want to be a ruler or anything. any specific questions?


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8018275 - 02/13/08 04:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

How long have you been doing this?


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: Psy Baba]
    #8018282 - 02/13/08 04:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

pictures of farm pease sounds wonderful


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: Psy Baba]
    #8018283 - 02/13/08 04:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i'm on the smith river between cottage grove and drain in the coastal mountains at 1000'. 45 minutes to eugene. i'm on dial up so sorry i'm so slow.


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8018289 - 02/13/08 04:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

What do you mean off grid? If you are using a dial-up line, you are easily tractable, and monitored.

How many people live there now?


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8018313 - 02/13/08 04:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

been here since 2003 and have had volunteers the last two years from new york and baltimore. i seriously can't figure out how to get pictures uploaded. think open land with gardens surrounded by douglas fir, hemlock,red cedar,blackberries, salmonberries. there's a small waterfall that is fun to watch salmon jump up in november.


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8018339 - 02/13/08 04:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

http://imageshack.us/
http://tinypic.com/

self explanatory from then on


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: Psy Baba]
    #8018347 - 02/13/08 04:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i used to be on grid, but it sucked since i'm at the end of the power lines. it also was cheaper to be off grid once i was set up. there is no incoming power but i did keep the phone line. i use a 15 kilowatt biodiesel generator and a large battery bank. i'll probably get solar later this year too. right now it's just me and my animals. it's alot more fun to work with other people. volunteers never want to stay the winter. they might be back later though.


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8018358 - 02/13/08 04:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds fantastic, I've been looking at land near Eugene.

May I come visit for a couple weeks in the fall? I'd be glad to help out with the work...


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: Middleman]
    #8018446 - 02/13/08 04:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

sure, just let me know.


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: Psy Baba]
    #8018473 - 02/13/08 04:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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DuNeRaVeR said:
How many people live there now?




and how is spring time on the farm?


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8018599 - 02/13/08 05:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

How do you afford all this? Solar cells?


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8018748 - 02/13/08 05:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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i'll probably get solar later this year too.





look into wind turbines, quick easy build, a lot from junk laying around, that
give projects for the winter months so you dont stagnate, the current from these
can be done in any configuration from 12 volt DC, 115/240V AC single phase up to
460v 3 phase, though it's not likely you'll be using industrial power for anything


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8018801 - 02/13/08 06:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'd love to swing out there this summer when I don't have class if thats cool.
I love being outside and I'm not afraid of hard work.


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: DragonChaser]
    #8018964 - 02/13/08 07:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

spring is good here. i usually start growing brocoli,kale, and peas and then the strawberries start coming in. the raccoons like them too though and they're hard to catch. it's usually a balance of sun and rain until june. i initially set it all up with inheritance and am trying to support it with the berry sales. i have a biodiesel processor which i haven't used yet due to too much else going on, but i should get it going soon. just got it last fall and had to build a shed to make it in. i'd be into wind turbines but i honestly haven't looked into it yet. dragon chaser, pm me if you want to try it out.


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8019041 - 02/13/08 07:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i think you should make a www site explaining your place that would be really cool I'd love to check it out!


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: rawtoxic]
    #8019445 - 02/13/08 08:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

he should also look into setting himself up as a CSA farm, obtain crop insurance
with a CSA you're paid before the seeds hit the dirt, the crop insurance ensures
you can return the cash if the crops do fail to produce, I've had 3 successive bad
years, it's gonna be 3 more before any of my trees are producing


azurite... what sort of equipment are you using, I'm on 85 acres and run a 65hp
tractor for many of my needs, it damn sure helps with clearing land, it took me a
day to fell, limb and stack about 30 trees by myself


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8020215 - 02/13/08 10:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i have a john deere 27hp tractor with a tiller and bucket. it runs on biodiesel too. i'm trying to get away from using the tractor for tilling. last year i turned a large portion of my row crops into raised beds that have to be hand forked to add the compost. the crops grew so much better than they did before. deeper soil, higher soil temperatures and the soil pests have a harder time getting around from bed to bed. i still use the tiller for the acre of sweet corn though. as far as getting logs, we raid the clearcut slash piles at night. we lift them with a hand tool onto the bed of the truck and push them in. i use the tractor and chains to pull them out of the truck and stack them, then to lift onto the mill. i also go out after storms and grab the trees that have fallen across the roads. i've thought about the csa situation, but i sell everything at natural food stores and farmers market. it's more fun to meet people at the farmers market too. 85 acres makes my place seem piddly. that's a huge bite to chew on. i only use 3 acres of the 21 for farming and i'm just letting all of the trees grow since i get them for free. it would be easier to move them though if i could use my tractor in the clearcuts. that would just be crazy though if i got caught. i'd probably lose my tractor and truck. this way i can scope out my targets in the daytime and know what i'm doing at night, get in and out quick. i also have a pto chipper for the tractor that makes nice woodchips. they just cut the alder here and let it rot or burn it. there's so much waste in the forest industry it's sick. we used to go to this slash pile we called maple mountain. it was bigger than my house. we took wood all summer and through the winter until we went there one day to find it burned up for replanting. it was so sad. the wood there would have supplied me for probably ten years or more.


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8027540 - 02/15/08 02:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yah i,ll pm u at some point, thats a nice area of the country, i spent around 3 months camping out around Bend a few summers back, sometimes spend time around seattle on vashon island,an anarchist ey-interesting


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8027727 - 02/15/08 03:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

HI I just joined this site to talk to you about the mission your on. I am about to head out from my current location in Pacific City Or now that the winter has passed and would like to see what you have going. I came to this coast with the intention of joining a group of some sort but the first place I went was a fraud at best. This hasnt dapened my spirts about the idea though. So I still wander with a tent and backpack, I hope to hear back from you soon to maybe arrange a mutually benifical relationship, and give me a general direction to head. thanks for reading this TTYL oldflip


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: oldflip]
    #8030200 - 02/16/08 05:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

pm me, what was fraudulent about your last situation?


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8030320 - 02/16/08 07:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i'm bookmarking this...for a year or two down the road. it might help to have an RN around


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: azurite]
    #8030358 - 02/16/08 08:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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i'm trying to get away from using the tractor for tilling.




pigs, they're natures tillers, they'll uproot weeds, roots and rocks, just
run solar fence charger and a couple strands of wire to contain them.


chickens will help with pest control as well as weeding, goats can handle most brush


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Re: off grid organic intentional community in oregon [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8030826 - 02/16/08 11:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

you gotta really like pigs to own them. we tried chickens but they fly over fences and like to get into newly planted stuff and scratch to get under the mulch. with oregon tilth any uncomposted manure on the crop has to go through a 120 day preharvest interval before food can be sold, so it's best to use the animals in winter or somewhere else and compost the manure for the required amount of time and temperature. goats would eat my berries too. baby southdown sheep would fit in well here but i'd still have to remove them and put into the pasture by january. not really worth it unless you're a conventional farmer or just not certified.


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