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Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard?
#8017475 - 02/13/08 12:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You'll often hear fascis...I mean, Republicans both here and elsewhere screeching about how there is a huge MSM conspiracy to promote liberal politicians and to ignore their faults while taking every possible shot they can at conservative pols and dragging their names through the muck. They will often tell you that this is horribly wrong and is indicative of the double-standard that the liberal/jew/fag/pinko media holds.
Well, fucking *duh*.
Is this not justified? The Republican party, for at least the last 20 years has never missed an opportunity to trumpet their wholesomeness. They love to tell you how fags are dirty and they would never even think of giving civil rights to a gay person, much less touch one. So then should it really NOT be news when someone is getting a hand-job under the door of an airport bathroom stall?
Republicans cannot have it both ways. If you want to claim the moral high-ground, you had damn well better be ready for the intense scrutiny that comes with that. You know why its not a big deal when a lib politician gets caught in some shit like this? Because we haven't been telling everyone for 20 years that we are better than them, holier than them, and absolutely morally without fault.
So yes, there is absolutely and 100% without a doubt a media bias towards pointing out the moral and personal shortcomings of conservative politicians.
But it is just as absolutely justified.
Deal with it, or get off your high horse.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8017487 - 02/13/08 12:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8017537 - 02/13/08 01:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You are correct that sanctimonious cunts need to have their phony feet held to the fire. What politician, though, left or right, is not a sanctimonious cunt? As one who is what I consider a true Conservative, i.e. gummint out of both my wallet and my bedroom (and opium den), I hate being associated with the anti abortion, godbothering retards etc. Word to retards, god hates you because you make him look stupid.
Aside from all that, the Dems deserve EQUAL space at the pillory. They are just as sanctimonious as the Reps, just in a different way. If you make the case that Reps should be held to a higher standard when they tap toes in a restroom then Dems should be held to a higher standard when they embezzle and steal money from "All the Po' Peoples." For an illustration, see William Jefferson. There are lots more. Same shit, different petard.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: zappaisgod]
#8017551 - 02/13/08 01:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: lonestar2004]
#8017581 - 02/13/08 01:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I did think that was one of my best.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8017629 - 02/13/08 01:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This "argument" is hilarious -- Dem politicians shouldn't be reported on for their moral failures because they cheerfully admit they're liars, thieves, perverts, traitors. "Hey... why you wanna report on the bad things we do, bro? We're freaking scum. Y'all have known that from the get-go."
There is a MSM habit so common no one even comments on it anymore -- whenever a politician is caught doing something wrong, if it's a Republican, his party affiliation is trumpeted in the headline of the article. If not in the headline, then in the very first sentence of the piece. If the miscreant is a Democrat, the party affiliation is often never mentioned at all. If it is mentioned, it will be seventeen paragraphs into the article.
This isn't just a sometimes thing, mind you, it is like nine times out of ten. I guarantee you if you ever come across a story about a politician caught doing something bad and you aren't told his/her party affiliation by the end of the first paragraph, he's a Dem. That's a sure bet.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: zappaisgod]
#8017639 - 02/13/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You Better Eat Your Wheaties because its really gonna heat up in here when the General Election starts.:)
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: lonestar2004]
#8017667 - 02/13/08 01:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I been training and I feels STRONG. Them commies best get their steroid shots right now because in a few months it will be too late to matter.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: Phred]
#8017699 - 02/13/08 01:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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"If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything." The Dems are the poster children for what you can get away with when there are diminished expectations. "Come on lady, you knew I was a snake when you picked me up." Some people find that refreshingly honest. I find it cowardly.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8017731 - 02/13/08 01:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you guys don't get it do you? all of the government that we elect is corrupted by the lobbyists. it has nothing to do with partisanship at all.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: SlashOZ]
#8017822 - 02/13/08 01:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lobbyists are people too. I'd rather shut you up than them.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: zappaisgod]
#8018437 - 02/13/08 04:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is this not justified? The Republican party, for at least the last 20 years has never missed an opportunity to trumpet their wholesomeness. They love to tell you how fags are dirty and they would never even think of giving civil rights to a gay person, much less touch one. So then should it really NOT be news when someone is getting a hand-job under the door of an airport bathroom stall?
(*As a caveat: ANY politician who fucks up should be exposed to the American public regardless of their politics.)
However...
Agreed. For some reason it always seems like (in general) Republicans are the ones caught in the most deviant sexual or moral activities. The Dems have had a few clunkers but I think it resonates more when Republicans get caught since they claim they're the more moralistic party and that the Democrats would let "them damn fags ruin America." I wouldn't hold this that much against them save for the fact that they're also a bunch of preachy, moralistic fucks and it's truly wonderful when one of them gets caught not practicing what he preaches in a male restroom 
Every time you hear about some Republican politician who hates gays in public yet blows men in private or a Republican White House that invites a gay prostitute to lob softball questions at the president during their press conference an angel gets its wings. Oh sweet Irony, you're such a lovely mistress.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8018650 - 02/13/08 05:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Madtowntripper said: You'll often hear fascis...I mean, Republicans both here and elsewhere screeching about how there is a huge MSM conspiracy to promote liberal politicians and to ignore their faults while taking every possible shot they can at conservative pols and dragging their names through the muck. They will often tell you that this is horribly wrong and is indicative of the double-standard that the liberal/jew/fag/pinko media holds.
Well, fucking *duh*.
Is this not justified? The Republican party, for at least the last 20 years has never missed an opportunity to trumpet their wholesomeness. They love to tell you how fags are dirty and they would never even think of giving civil rights to a gay person, much less touch one. So then should it really NOT be news when someone is getting a hand-job under the door of an airport bathroom stall?
Republicans cannot have it both ways. If you want to claim the moral high-ground, you had damn well better be ready for the intense scrutiny that comes with that. You know why its not a big deal when a lib politician gets caught in some shit like this? Because we haven't been telling everyone for 20 years that we are better than them, holier than them, and absolutely morally without fault.
So yes, there is absolutely and 100% without a doubt a media bias towards pointing out the moral and personal shortcomings of conservative politicians.
But it is just as absolutely justified.
Deal with it, or get off your high horse.
are you still bitter about billy boy getting head in the white house?
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: Syle]
#8020003 - 02/13/08 10:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Are you fucking kidding?
What in that long post you quoted would make you think that?
Did you read what I fucking wrote? It's an indictment *of* the Republicans, not *by* the Republicans.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8020251 - 02/13/08 10:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Madtowntripper said: Are you fucking kidding?
What in that long post you quoted would make you think that?
Did you read what I fucking wrote? It's an indictment *of* the Republicans, not *by* the Republicans.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: zappaisgod]
#8020465 - 02/13/08 11:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah because we all know the many benefits that the tobacco industry provides. big oil, military contractors, big pharm, etc. yeah we need more of their influence in Washington zappa. its not like they haven't played a huge part in running America into the ground over the last 50 or so years. i also can see how my posts on this forum have led to the massive debt we face, terrible perception abroad, a weak dollar, 48 million uninsured, millions in prison for non violent crimes related to the war on drugs, financing corrupt governments abroad now and in the past. yeah i'm a real leach upon this country zappa. thank god we have career politicians running this ship, right into rocks Valdez style. heaven forbid anyone express differing viewpoints, on an internet forum no less. shame on me once again.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: SlashOZ]
#8020532 - 02/14/08 12:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: You are correct that sanctimonious cunts need to have their phony feet held to the fire. What politician, though, left or right, is not a sanctimonious cunt? As one who is what I consider a true Conservative, i.e. gummint out of both my wallet and my bedroom (and opium den), I hate being associated with the anti abortion, godbothering retards etc. Word to retards, god hates you because you make him look stupid.
Aside from all that, the Dems deserve EQUAL space at the pillory. They are just as sanctimonious as the Reps, just in a different way. If you make the case that Reps should be held to a higher standard when they tap toes in a restroom then Dems should be held to a higher standard when they embezzle and steal money from "All the Po' Peoples." For an illustration, see William Jefferson. There are lots more. Same shit, different petard.
See zap, this is why I love you! 
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Lobbyists are people too. I'd rather shut you up than them.
But then you go and piss me off again.
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SlashOz said: yeah because we all know the many benefits that the tobacco industry provides. big oil, military contractors, big pharm, etc. yeah we need more of their influence in Washington zappa. its not like they haven't played a huge part in running America into the ground over the last 50 or so years. i also can see how my posts on this forum have led to the massive debt we face, terrible perception abroad, a weak dollar, 48 million uninsured, millions in prison for non violent crimes related to the war on drugs, financing corrupt governments abroad now and in the past. yeah i'm a real leach upon this country zappa. thank god we have career politicians running this ship, right into rocks Valdez style. heaven forbid anyone express differing viewpoints, on an internet forum no less. shame on me once again.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: Phred]
#8020672 - 02/14/08 12:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phred said: This "argument" is hilarious -- Dem politicians shouldn't be reported on for their moral failures because they cheerfully admit they're liars, thieves, perverts, traitors. "Hey... why you wanna report on the bad things we do, bro? We're freaking scum. Y'all have known that from the get-go."
As usual, you cheerfully and blatantly disregard the actual meaning of my words to twist them into some type of admission of guilt. They are nothing of the sort.
What I meant, and I think you understand this, is not that the Democrats are somehow not responsible for their actions. It is only that as the party of the so called "Moral Majority", you should be accountable to a higher standard. *YOU* are the party that claims the moral high ground. You are the ones standing up for families, and values, and all of that sentimental bullshit. Protecting the country against whatever liberal boogeyman is coming to corrupt your children on that particular day.
Nobody from either party is perfect. They're all fucking human. But if the Republicans want to claim that they're morally superior, they should take the flak that comes with revealing the basic untruth of that position.
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There is a MSM habit so common no one even comments on it anymore -- whenever a politician is caught doing something wrong, if it's a Republican, his party affiliation is trumpeted in the headline of the article. If not in the headline, then in the very first sentence of the piece. If the miscreant is a Democrat, the party affiliation is often never mentioned at all. If it is mentioned, it will be seventeen paragraphs into the article.
This isn't just a sometimes thing, mind you, it is like nine times out of ten. I guarantee you if you ever come across a story about a politician caught doing something bad and you aren't told his/her party affiliation by the end of the first paragraph, he's a Dem. That's a sure bet.
You know full well that is absolute rubbish.
Prove it.
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8021047 - 02/14/08 03:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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There is a MSM habit so common no one even comments on it anymore -- whenever a politician is caught doing something wrong, if it's a Republican, his party affiliation is trumpeted in the headline of the article. If not in the headline, then in the very first sentence of the piece. If the miscreant is a Democrat, the party affiliation is often never mentioned at all. If it is mentioned, it will be seventeen paragraphs into the article.
Yeah, on a hunch I quickly called bullshit on that in my mind and a cursory Google search has once again proved you wrong...
Your words: "...often never mentioned at all... or if it is, it will be seventeen paragraphs into the article."
Let's look into the scandal of James McGreevy, the Democratic governor of New Jersey... In the words of those godless, commie, pinko-liberal fags over at CNN: (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/12/mcgreevey.nj/)
Holy shit! Do my eyes deceive me or do they mention the word Democrat three times in the first six paragraphs? And this is coming from a source that is often accused of having a left-wing bias!
Look, people would take you more seriously if you made arguments that were backed up by facts...
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Re: Do Republican Politicians Deserve To Be Held To a Higher Standard? [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
#8021090 - 02/14/08 05:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gotta love the Republican vs. Democrat mentality.
They are all politicians, and the party they affiliate with has more to do with how each party will play to their own interests and the special interests they represent. It means nothing for politicians to change who they caucus with, for the most part. There are, of course, ideaological differences, but this probably is a natural tendency of which special represents each party traditionally represents.
Right in the middle is where the most money is, and this is why you have politicans like Hillary Clinton, John McCain, and George W. Bush have so much success. The most powerful interests play both sides, and its easiest to get the most money and power by being right in the middle for it.
The thing that inspires me the most about Obama is that he hasn't become entangled in the interests game to nearly any extent as politicians like Hillary Clinton and John McCain. People are quick to say he is the most left-winged politican there is right now, which is probably because he hasn't been sucked into the middle with all of that money and power. No one yet has proposed exactly what is so negative about him. Ron Paul, as well, represents this coming from the right, but there is simply more interest in the left-side of it all right now nationally, and someone like Obama is far more capable of gaining the attention of the public and the media than someone like Ron Paul is.
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