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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Atheist]
    #8017669 - 02/13/08 01:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

post number #8017584. he did.


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Atheist]
    #8017671 - 02/13/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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all that shit you saw was in your fuckin head and created by your mind

what do you think? you met GOD?? LOLOLOL




I did think it was in my head, until the other seven people with me all said that the tree was talking to them too. And no, I didn't bring it up after I realized it was speaking to me, because I thought I was crazy. They brought it up individually.
And no, I don't think I met God at all. I think I communicated with a tree spirit that was hundreds of years old.
But I feel you dude. I loathe that church as well. But I swear, not all religions are like that one man. I can understand you feeling scarred from your experience, it definitely turned me off to religion as well. So I made my own.
I dated a girl, who when she was a kid, after her dad died, her mom was just like "hey! We're Mormon now, and moving to Utah."
I think she might hate religion more than you even. She spits fire when the topic comes up.
Until we communicated telepathically during a trip once. Now she believes in something other than this physical existence.


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Crasher]
    #8017674 - 02/13/08 01:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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crash you sound like your talking about moral relativism. am i correct?




Yes, and how atheists have to answer the question of how their morality is justified given no external or internal purpose.




we dont need books or threats of hell to make us good people

every atheist i have met has a strong love for life and being on this amazing planet

we are just normal people :shrug:

stereotypes.....


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Crasher]
    #8017676 - 02/13/08 01:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Cavemen were probably animists, and unless you've interviewed them, or are an anthropologist of some kind, can't make that statement with any validity.


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Atheist]
    #8017684 - 02/13/08 01:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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THIS WAS YOUR FIRST POST

and you DID NOT quote me




No dude, I meant my first point in the post where I first mentioned talking to tree spirits. Not my first post in this thread.


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: DragonChaser]
    #8017690 - 02/13/08 01:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ok my mistake, i dont believe in tree spirits

they dont talk at all

they are just plants


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: DragonChaser]
    #8017694 - 02/13/08 01:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

and were your friends on drugs too?


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Atheist]
    #8017703 - 02/13/08 01:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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PreparationH said:
crash you sound like your talking about moral relativism. am i correct?




Yes, and how atheists have to answer the question of how their morality is justified given no external or internal purpose.




we dont need books or threats of hell to make us good people

every atheist i have met has a strong love for life and being on this amazing planet

we are just normal people :shrug:

stereotypes.....




This isn't about sterotypes and you're not paying attention.

There is no 'good' or 'bad' in atheism. Those come from external sources like 'fuckin books' or bullshit gods.

Your morality is baseless because it wasn't given to you, or intrinsic to your creation.

You are just here, a product of randomness, trying to give some reason to life when there is none.


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Crasher]
    #8017712 - 02/13/08 01:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

trying to give some reason to life when there is none

isnt that what religion does? :confused:


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Atheist]
    #8017714 - 02/13/08 01:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

PS, i never said there was no meaning to life


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Atheist]
    #8017715 - 02/13/08 01:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You don't think that other life forms may have some type of consciouness?
I like to think humans aren't alone in this existence, even if they have a consciousness we can't understand, or one that might not fit out definition of 'consciousness'.


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Atheist]
    #8017720 - 02/13/08 01:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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neither did i, i had to slowly be beaten into atheism

i wanted to believe in jesus/holyspirit/god REAALY FUCKIN BAD

but people finally OPENED MY EYES to the bullshit religion is

there are too many religions for one to be the 'right one'

cavement didnt have religion LOL

edit: not literaly beaten (just through arguments/debates with people)




Well, I understand what you're saying here. There's a lot of nonsense to be found in religious orders, but I got to tell you that I see truth in them too. Subtle truths, metaphors. Examples of life told through myth. I can relate with some religious principles: compassion in the western religions, keeping a still mind in the eastern religions..

Do I have to adhere to any of them, no. Do I want to, no.

I don't need to beacuse I can walk my own path.

Life is my religion because I hold life to be sacred.

I can live with that. :smile:

If you can live with no religion whatsoever, then :peace: to you my friend.

:japsmile:


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Atheist]
    #8017722 - 02/13/08 01:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This things in the 3rd page......I say we move back into the trees......and fuck every monkey chick we can find.


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: DragonChaser]
    #8017723 - 02/13/08 01:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

dude everything is fucking alive, from a spider to a elephant

they are all alive: bacteria, earthworms, shrooms

humans havent even been here that long

go back 100 MYA and try pushing religion on a fuckin dinosaur


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Atheist]
    #8017726 - 02/13/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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and were your friends on drugs too?




Of course.
Don't you know we travel in packs? :wink:
But the fact that we had a very similar shared experience tells me something else may have been going on there.


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Atheist]
    #8017728 - 02/13/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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dude everything is fucking alive, from a spider to a elephant

they are all alive: bacteria, earthworms, shrooms

humans havent even been here that long

go back 100 MYA and try pushing religion on a fuckin dinosaur




were covered in lifeforms hehehehe, a huge universe on our bodies.

And in our bodies too.


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: DragonChaser]
    #8017734 - 02/13/08 01:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Atheist said:
and were your friends on drugs too?




Of course.
Don't you know we travel in packs? :wink:
But the fact that we had a very similar shared experience tells me something else may have been going on there.




well, i bet that if you didnt consume those drugs then that shit wouldnt of happened

i get sick of all the DMT people like ooooh i met god and spirits

motherfuckers, you were HALLUCINATING and that shit was FAKE!


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Atheist]
    #8017735 - 02/13/08 01:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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dude everything is fucking alive, from a spider to a elephant

they are all alive: bacteria, earthworms, shrooms

humans havent even been here that long

go back 100 MYA and try pushing religion on a fuckin dinosaur




I wasn't even referring to religion at that point... but you said you didn't believe in tree spirits, it was just a plant. What I was asking was that you don't believe that trees might have some sort of consciousness?


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Crasher]
    #8017737 - 02/13/08 01:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

DEFT and BLIND and DUMB and born to follow.
What you need is someone strong to guide you.
JESUS CHRIST why dont you come save my life, now.
OPEN my eyes, blind me with you light now.

Maynard is suck a pompous dingleberry, but that is a damn fine tune.


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Re: Wake the fuck up [Re: Atheist]
    #8017739 - 02/13/08 01:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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PS, i never said there was no meaning to life




So you don't really get what I'm saying to you at all. You're dismissing it without even considering the implications of your non-beliefs.

Sounds like some other people I've met who try to sell me on another testament of jesus.


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