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Chronic7

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Why do people hate/envy/jealousy?
#8017310 - 02/13/08 12:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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What i was wondeirng is why does it seem so many people get jealous and hate on others for being true to themsleves.
For eg Bono & Paul McCartney are 2 very generous spiritual guys yet so many people seem to find them irritating, when all they are trying to do is help everyone.
When you come across well centred and un affected by the same things most people let affect, they seem to dispise you for it, i dont beleive this is in true human nature, unles sit comes from primitive, he has more, i hate him attitude?
Any thoughts?
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Re: Why do people hate/envy/jealousy? [Re: Chronic7]
#8017397 - 02/13/08 12:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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of course it comes from instinct. When society was lawless, You'd see a dude, if he had something you wanted, you'd hate him and kill him and take his shit. Over time this emotion evolved to hating others who didn't subscribe to your beliefs, therefore undermining your attempt to survive and reproduce. Therefore you should hate people not like you if you want the world to evolve for the better.
And people don't hate Bono and McCartney for being true to themselves. They hate them for their shitty music and wussy attitudes. Being generous and spiritual doesn't mean people like them.
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Re: Why do people hate/envy/jealousy? [Re: Chronic7]
#8017405 - 02/13/08 12:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Don't hate me because I'm beautiful!
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I think jealousy and hate largely stem from ignorance. Why we do it though?
I think redgreenvines or some enlightened poster needs to answer this one, haha.
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Re: Why do people hate/envy/jealousy? [Re: appleorange]
#8017817 - 02/13/08 01:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I actually think jealousy and hate are a part of human nature, just the same as love and acceptance.
Jealousy and hatred are just as strong as love and peace, it's just that some people let the hatred and jealousy take over instead. It's natural to feel jealous of someone who's better off than you and has more influence than you, some people just take it too seriously.
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Re: Why do people hate/envy/jealousy? [Re: Chronic7]
#8017833 - 02/13/08 02:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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chronic777 said: What i was wondeirng is why does it seem so many people get jealous and hate on others for being true to themsleves.
For eg Bono & Paul McCartney are 2 very generous spiritual guys yet so many people seem to find them irritating, when all they are trying to do is help everyone.
When you come across well centred and un affected by the same things most people let affect, they seem to dispise you for it, i dont beleive this is in true human nature, unles sit comes from primitive, he has more, i hate him attitude?
Any thoughts?
Yes my thought is that to believe someone doesn't have all these so called negative traits is Bull. We all have them to one degree or another including Jesus and Paul McCartney.
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Re: Why do people hate/envy/jealousy? [Re: Icelander]
#8017956 - 02/13/08 02:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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People know beauty exist and they know ugliness exist, yet they create ugly? Heh... Why is the sky blue?
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Re: Why do people hate/envy/jealousy? [Re: Draigan]
#8018335 - 02/13/08 04:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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True nature is pure awareness.
Pure awareness can be equal to the true love of all, (when you are in human form).
As you are free of attachment, and accept all. This is true nature.
"Therefore you should hate people not like you if you want the world to evolve for the better"
You are obviously not like me but i dont hate you, i love you just the same. Thats better for both of us.
In buddhist theory its attachment that sparks this, through fear, which is the truth, i just wanted others opinions to see where your heads are at.
We are still evolving, some humans must make evolutionary leaps for the rest of the race to evolve aswell, all species evolve and all do this through certain beings within that species evolving first.
Ancient mystics (Christ/Buddha) are these beings.
The more highly evolved you are, the more aware you are, the more accpeting you are, the more compassionate you are.
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Re: Why do people hate/envy/jealousy? [Re: Chronic7]
#8018532 - 02/13/08 05:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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True nature is pure awareness.
Pure awareness can be equal to the true love of all, (when you are in human form).
As you are free of attachment, and accept all. This is true nature.
Statements like this are the new agey gobbledegook that gives me the creeps.
True nature is every single thing that happens.
"True nature is pure awareness"? Did you just create that out of whole cloth or did you read it in some book?
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Re: Why do people hate/envy/jealousy? [Re: Icelander]
#8018919 - 02/13/08 06:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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chronic,
wisdom = compassion.
i'm no Buddha or Toadie, but I'm pretty sure that statement holds truth.
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Re: Why do people hate/envy/jealousy? [Re: appleorange]
#8020053 - 02/13/08 10:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I do often wonder why people jealousy...
but in all seriousness, it's all the result of insecurity. People who profess or experience these feelings for another person are generally seeing something that they feel they lack (in terms of jealousy or envy), or they are trying to strengthen their own identity through depreciation of another (as in hate). It's almost carnivorous, with the difference that eating meat actually provides sustenance.
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