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SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES
    #8016794 - 02/13/08 11:43 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Dear Governor Dean:

I write this letter as a former Democratic candidate for President of the United States and a civil rights leader who has fought his entire life for fairness and justice for all people regardless of the color of their skin. I firmly believe that changing the rules now, and seating delegates from Florida and Michigan at this point would not only violate the Democratic party's rules of fairness, but also would be a grave injustice.

As former Presidential candidates we both know that, whether we liked them or not, we adhered to the rules set forth by the Democratic party to select its nominee for president. For example, I would have much preferred starting the nominating process with caucuses and primaries in South Carolina and Washington D.C. than Iowa and New Hampshire. Nonetheless, I knew the rules, abided by them, and ultimately accepted the consequences. Changing the rules in the middle of a presidential contest is patently unfair both to the candidates (including Senator Edwards) and to Democratic voters everywhere.

Some have said that not seating delegations from Florida and Michigan disenfranchises Democratic voters -- especially African American voters -- from those two states. That claim, if true, should have been made many months ago before the decision was made to strip these states of their delegates, and, once the decision was made, it should have been vigorously objected to and contested by those who felt it disenfranchised voters. To raise that claim now smacks of politics in its form most raw and undercuts the moral authority behind such an argument.

As a civil rights leader who is neutral in this presidential primary season and who highly respects both remaining Democratic candidates, I think we have a responsibility to protect both candidates from charges that the process was tainted so that our eventual nominee does not start the general election campaign under a cloud. Clearly, the justifiably proud and intense passions of each candidate's supporters will be on full display in the months leading up to the convention. However, the Democratic Party and independent voices within must temper over enthusiasm by either side and the party must be resolute in ensuring that there is one set of rules by which we select our nominee.

In Progress,

Reverend Al Sharpton, President of National Action Network

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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8016847 - 02/13/08 11:54 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)



1968 Dem convention in Chicago.


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8017038 - 02/13/08 12:45 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

wait...someone must have ghost written this thing.

it's far too balanced and logical.


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: afoaf]
    #8017049 - 02/13/08 12:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

right:)


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8017171 - 02/13/08 01:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

> I ... has fought his entire life for fairness and justice for all people regardless of the color of their skin

... as long as it is dark.

> The Holy Racist Al Sharpton

Yup.


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: Seuss]
    #8017353 - 02/13/08 02:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

He is right, though.


Ooooh fuck I need to go wash my keyboard out with soap.


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8017383 - 02/13/08 02:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

sharpten can be allright... he strikes me as far more reasonable than Jackson

Sharpton will say stupid and indefensible shit, but often when you you watch him in an interview (or a debate like in 04) he comes off pretty reasonable. Maybe its a facade, but the man isn't always a raving lunatic.


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: johnm214]
    #8017392 - 02/13/08 02:31 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You don't live where I live and you haven't heard all of his shit. He makes Jackson look like an Uncle Tom. He hasn't gotten people killed with his rabble rousing racist crap.


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8017524 - 02/13/08 02:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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He is right, though.





Zappa agreeing with Al Sharpton???????:grin:


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8017645 - 02/13/08 03:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Whooda thunk it? Generally if the cocksucker said the sun came up I'd check to make sure physics were still in order. But you can't change the rules in the middle of the game. Of course, I suspect it has nothing to do with Al's principles since they are not to be found in nature. He just thinks with his skin tone.


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8021082 - 02/14/08 07:14 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Don't seat the delegates. Hillary Clinton wouldn't be fighting for them if her campaign wasn't on the rocks. Everything about Hillary right now smells of desperate stress. She's on the verge of a nervous breakdown I think. :shrug:


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: fireworks_god]
    #8021086 - 02/14/08 07:19 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Exactly. While it's absurd that they were taken away to begin with, it would be unfair to give them to Hillary since Obama wasn't even on the ballot.


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES *DELETED* [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8021103 - 02/14/08 07:41 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: Cubie]
    #8021625 - 02/14/08 11:37 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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If some white guy went around doing what al does he would be publicly critasized and accused of being racist.




I get sick of hearing shit like this.

"If there was a white entertainment tv people would call it racist"

so what?

Like sharpton isn't called a racist every time he's brought up?

I'm sure there are those w/ unwavering support, but I don't know any of em.


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: johnm214]
    #8021833 - 02/14/08 12:36 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Cubie said:
If some white guy went around doing what al does he would be publicly critasized and accused of being racist.




I get sick of hearing shit like this.

"If there was a white entertainment tv people would call it racist"

so what?

Like sharpton isn't called a racist every time he's brought up?





I'm sick of it too. It is annoying and whiney. Just cause Sharpton is annoying and whiney most of the time doesn't mean you should follow suit.


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: Cubie]
    #8022212 - 02/14/08 02:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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If some white guy went around doing what al does he would be publicly critasized and accused of being racist.




Absolutely irrelevant to the conversation.


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: Redstorm]
    #8022904 - 02/14/08 05:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Exactly. While it's absurd that they were taken away to begin with, it would be unfair to give them to Hillary since Obama wasn't even on the ballot.




I'm curious of where everyone is hearing this pro Obama bullshit? Obama and Edwards were both on the ballot in Florida.

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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: d33p]
    #8022991 - 02/14/08 06:03 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

By the DNC rules there were no primaries in Florida and Michigan.

No primary, No winner, No delegates.

But.....

Bush v. Gore Supreme Court again?


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: d33p]
    #8023828 - 02/14/08 08:37 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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d33p said:
Quote:

Redstorm said:
Exactly. While it's absurd that they were taken away to begin with, it would be unfair to give them to Hillary since Obama wasn't even on the ballot.




I'm curious of where everyone is hearing this pro Obama bullshit? Obama and Edwards were both on the ballot in Florida.

happy birthday




I'm talking about Michigan.

Thank you! :cheers:


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Re: SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES [Re: Redstorm]
    #8023924 - 02/14/08 08:55 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Sharpton threatens march on DNC


OH please!

Watching a bunch of disenfranchised African-Americans marching on the Democratic National Committee headquarters would be Priceless

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2008/02/14/sharpton_threatens_march_on_dnc/6476/


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