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Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps?
    #8016747 - 02/13/08 09:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I enjoy listening to their music by and large, but sometimes I feel like it is intended to brainwash people. Something about them doesn't seem quite human. Like the scene in Electric Kool-Aid when the Pranksters get bad vibes from the Beatles concert, like the music is controlling the masses...sometimes I get that vibe from them. Know what I mean?


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I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8016754 - 02/13/08 09:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

In a word no.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: theorganicdomino]
    #8016763 - 02/13/08 09:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'll give you no! :crankey:


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I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8016767 - 02/13/08 09:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Not at all, sir. The only people it controls are the people that feel like they have to listen to The Beatles because they smoke pot or drop acid.

Kind of like the kids that only say they listen to Bob Marley's music to sound cool or whatever in front of their smoking friends.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8016772 - 02/13/08 09:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Lion said:
I'll give you no! :crankey:




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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8016784 - 02/13/08 09:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Lion said:
Know what I mean?




Not at all.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8016785 - 02/13/08 09:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think they were consciously trying to influence people during their psychedelic phase but no, it does not bother me since I like the direction they were headed.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8016790 - 02/13/08 09:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I didn't like the Beatles at all until I listened to them on a solid dose of acid and "got" what they were about, so to speak.  I came to the conclusion that they are about Love.  :shrug:  I had to be in an expanded state of mind to appreciate music from such a different era, though. 

In short, I like tripping to them, but I don't usually listen to them much otherwise.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8016844 - 02/13/08 09:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8016853 - 02/13/08 09:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

do all nonsensical forms of media give you the creeps?


and no, they don't...although they're music can be pretty fucking weird, especially with chemicals flowing, but i still love it


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8016856 - 02/13/08 09:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I see what you're getting at.

i was pondering not long ago and came to understand that at a level of my perception, they had colonised the tripping ethic as their own.

kind of.

culturally we are programmed to receive them as a trip. they were cool when i was smoking dope, but on the ingestion of other psychadelics i came to resent the paradigm and needed to break free from its gestalt corpulence

comes down to whats been said: they probably saught to consciously influence through their music at one point, and its not always a boon to assimilate the hive

basically, the ingrained and imaginatory ideas/illusions held within their legacy led to disappointment for me in a psychadelic respect.
though it was a lesson well learnt.

this all said they are still probably mostly about love and not about secret governmental conspiracies devised by satan and the lizard people to rob the one individual of truth for eternity

turn the volume down on that one

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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8016859 - 02/13/08 09:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Thin White Duke]
    #8016888 - 02/13/08 10:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

They don't give me the creeps, but they may give me the chills when listened at right time.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Individual]
    #8016905 - 02/13/08 10:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

they dont give me the creeps but the water coloured video lucy in the sky does kinda

i like all their stuff when the times right like if i havent heard them for 10 yrs i might give em a go for nostalgia


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8017105 - 02/13/08 11:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't consider it as brainwashing, but they certainly have some kind of "magic". I have no idea how to define or explain it, but it probably has a lot to do with the narrative of their songs, as well as their personalities (air, water, fire and earth, no? :wink: ). It's very psychological. But no, they don't give me the creeps. The Beatles Anthology DVD set is probably one of my best investments ever :smile2:


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: ivi]
    #8018494 - 02/13/08 04:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

the thing that creeps me out is this line from Getting Better
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I used to be cruel to my woman
I beat her and kept her from the
Things that she loved




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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: learningtofly]
    #8018594 - 02/13/08 05:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

beatles are overrated.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8018761 - 02/13/08 06:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Listen to "Revolution 9" in reverse.  :ooo:












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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Learyfan]
    #8018773 - 02/13/08 06:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, that was one of the songs I was thinking of when I made this thread.


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I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8018798 - 02/13/08 06:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The Watusi..........................................................................................................................................The TWIST.  :ooo:








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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Learyfan]
    #8018848 - 02/13/08 06:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think Kesey and his group were more freaked out by the crowd's reaction to the Beatles, rather than to the Beatles themselves.

I don't really get freaked out by them.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8018857 - 02/13/08 06:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yes.

The Beatles were part of CIA mass mind control experiments.

Also, In ancient Egypt, Set (Satan) was also called Pep.

Many references to Pep like Sgt. Pepper and Dr. Pepper are veiled satanism.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Middleman]
    #8018861 - 02/13/08 06:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Middleman said:
Yes.

The Beatles were part of CIA mass mind control experiments.

Also, In ancient Egypt, Set (Satan) was also called Pep.

Many references to Pep like Sgt. Pepper and Dr. Pepper are veiled satanism.




And as everyone knows, this in turn fingers Chester Cheeto as a demon, as Cheetos and Dr. Pepper go so well together.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Middleman]
    #8018869 - 02/13/08 06:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I can't tell whether you're being facetious, but I suppose it doesn't really matter. :smirk:  Their songs have a certain intangible 'layered' quality... Maybe they were just geniuses with a high degree of understanding of human emotions and the unconscious.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8018886 - 02/13/08 06:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm serious.

You'd be surprised how many of our 'heros' were involved with the CIA or in cahoots with the Empire.

You'd really be surprised at the hidden origins of many major corporation names and logos...


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Middleman]
    #8018887 - 02/13/08 06:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:tinfoil:


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Learyfan]
    #8018906 - 02/13/08 06:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I know what you mean same with the doors and ledzepplin I enjoy the music but cant listen to it when I trip.

Wierd vibes.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8018922 - 02/13/08 06:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Lion said:
I enjoy listening to their music by and large, but sometimes I feel like it is intended to brainwash people. Something about them doesn't seem quite human. Like the scene in Electric Kool-Aid when the Pranksters get bad vibes from the Beatles concert, like the music is controlling the masses...sometimes I get that vibe from them. Know what I mean?




You're young, aren't you? It's ok...me too, but I think I'm on just the other side of some generational threshold. You don't really comprehend it yet.

The Beatles aren't human. What they did, and went through and became...then un-became: the beatles are not 'humans', although there are humans in the Beatles. The boomers and their parents are everywhere. EVERYWHERE. And the Beatles blew a lot of their fucking minds and definitely changed this country.

There's mind control from two sides. The first is the band themselves. They'd love to turn you on. I remember an interview a while back, where like, Owsley or Leary or one of those guys and some friends rushed back to listen to Sgt. Pepper when it first came out; afterwards, he quipped that his work was done, that the trip had been grasped, then translated to the masses or something. It might have actually been w\ Garcia, I'd love to find it again...

The other one is just history slipping away the way it always does.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Learyfan]
    #8018937 - 02/13/08 07:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You guys are fucking *DUMB* if you think that they were consciously trying to influence people into using psychedelics

seriously that is god damn asinine and sorta makes me mad that one would even think of that.

Put the pipe down, drink some coffee, come down a little bit. The song "Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds" wasn't even intended to be a double entendre for LSD.

Oh also, the electric kool-aide acid test would be the sorta thing you should be getting the "ACID IS GOOD FOR YOU" vibe from, not the beatles.

Shit, read about the song meanings for a lot of their songs, yeh *some* were about drugs, SOME, but they are few and far between. As I recall, the only song that was actually about LSD was "Day Tripper", about a girl who takes her trips in the day time. And the point isnt about tripping, its just a catchy ass pop song, there was no deep "OMG psychedelics!!!" meaning behind it.

Some of the people on this site seriously need to get over themselves about psychedelics, its so elitist, like as if EVERYTHING can be traced back to people using psychedelics, its just dumb.

I mean, OFCOURSE it influenced the beatles, it influenced a lot of people, infact, its hard NOT to be influenced by psychedelics, but not every piece of art, literature, music ETC is consciously rendered to be overtly about them. fuck.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: toastandjam]
    #8018941 - 02/13/08 07:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Cool post man. :thumbup:

Actually, the whole Sgt. Peppers CD reminds me more of tripping on LSD than any other music I've ever heard.  Still, it's a far cry from the experience itself.


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I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Helpme1]
    #8018983 - 02/13/08 07:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Helpme1 said:
You guys are fucking *DUMB* if you think that they were consciously trying to influence people into using psychedelics

seriously that is god damn asinine and sorta makes me mad that one would even think of that.





Your dumb for stating that they didnt. Now I'm not saying they did, but do you know? Are you john lennon? STFU


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8019011 - 02/13/08 07:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Shroomery's stark elitism at its finest!

Have you actually listened to the beatles?

Like after you grew a pair and realized the world doesn't revolve around mushrooms and LSD?

Have you taken the time to read what the beatles actually intended the songs to be about?

I guess you think they were lying when they were talking about the "true" meanings of the songs, to fool us all again, right?


Bold call, my friend, bold call.

EDIT:
It *isnt* a secret btw, like they didn't try to hide the meanings of the songs one bit. Paul straight up said that "Got to get you into my life" was about his love for weed, and how he smokes it daily. I doubt they would try to decieve us, especially after all these years. Lennon has said that "yellow submarine" was about his first acid trip and how it looked like he was in a yellow submarine...so its no secret that they were involved in extensive drug use during their time in the band.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Helpme1]
    #8019045 - 02/13/08 07:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Shroomery's stark elitism at its finest!

Have you actually listened to the beatles?

Like after you grew a pair and realized the world doesn't revolve around mushrooms and LSD?

Have you taken the time to read what the beatles actually intended the songs to be about?

I guess you think they were lying when they were talking about the "true" meanings of the songs, to fool us all again, right?


Bold call, my friend, bold call.


how is stating that I nore you know anything being elitist.

You are acting pretty hypocritical my friend, im just saying you think that people are elitists and yet claim that your opinion is truth.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Helpme1]
    #8019072 - 02/13/08 07:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Woah woah, lets get one thing straight.

What I am saying about the beatles is *NOT* my opinion. This is straight from the beatles mouth's themself.

How can their intention of a song meaning be MY opinion?
are you fucking jewish or something?


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Helpme1]
    #8019109 - 02/13/08 07:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Helpme1 said:
You guys are fucking *DUMB* if you think that they were consciously trying to influence people into using psychedelics

seriously that is god damn asinine and sorta makes me mad that one would even think of that.

Put the pipe down, drink some coffee, come down a little bit. The song "Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds" wasn't even intended to be a double entendre for LSD.

Oh also, the electric kool-aide acid test would be the sorta thing you should be getting the "ACID IS GOOD FOR YOU" vibe from, not the beatles.

Shit, read about the song meanings for a lot of their songs, yeh *some* were about drugs, SOME, but they are few and far between. As I recall, the only song that was actually about LSD was "Day Tripper", about a girl who takes her trips in the day time. And the point isnt about tripping, its just a catchy ass pop song, there was no deep "OMG psychedelics!!!" meaning behind it.

Some of the people on this site seriously need to get over themselves about psychedelics, its so elitist, like as if EVERYTHING can be traced back to people using psychedelics, its just dumb.

I mean, OFCOURSE it influenced the beatles, it influenced a lot of people, infact, its hard NOT to be influenced by psychedelics, but not every piece of art, literature, music ETC is consciously rendered to be overtly about them. fuck.





Whoa, here-- pick this pipe up. Chill all around.

I'm not saying the Beatles are all about drugs. I'm not saying that songs were written as CIA propaganda like the Beatles are introducing crack to Black neighborhoods. The influence is clearly there in the music, the specific inclusion\embracing of that influence into their lives and personalities, and WHEN they did so is important. Thats why I was trying to measure by the reaction of some hipper contemporaries.

Yes, I know Lucy in the Sky wasn't specifically 'LSD'. Listen to the Beatles, especially during their psychedelic period, like 66-69. Does that make you want to take drugs, think of drugs? I don't think you can say they were unaware of this.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Helpme1]
    #8019122 - 02/13/08 07:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Woah woah, lets get one thing straight.

What I am saying about the beatles is *NOT* my opinion. This is straight from the beatles mouth's themself.

How can their intention of a song meaning be MY opinion?
are you fucking jewish or something?




Woah waoh lets get one thing striaght, people lie. By your logic everything that george bush has said in his presidency is true becase it came from his mouth.

You need to get over yourself, and yes i admit so do i and everyone here but you come in and claim to know the intensions of strangers because "they said so".

If you would have read my response to your post you would see i siad i wasnt saying that it was a psychedelic conspiracy, but I dont know and neither do you. so stop insulting everyone here.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8019135 - 02/13/08 07:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No, I think the Beatles were cool when they were as a group, even Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr are still cool. I don't like Paul's new music as much, but I always liked his music as well.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8019137 - 02/13/08 07:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

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You guys are fucking *DUMB* if you think that they were consciously trying to influence people into using psychedelics

seriously that is god damn asinine and sorta makes me mad that one would even think of that.





Your dumb for stating that they didnt. Now I'm not saying they did, but do you know?  Are you john lennon? STFU




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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8019220 - 02/13/08 07:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Holy fuck do you take everything literally? Like seriously bro.

I never said to believe everything that someone says, and even when Lennon says something about his music i take it with a grain of salt, OBVIOUSLY.

What i'm saying is, Lennon has no god damn reason for him to lie about his music, unless ofcourse you believe that it really *was* a universal conspiracy to get people to use psychedelics?

If it *wasnt*, then what the fuck would he be doing lying to everyone about it?

George Bush lies because.....wait.....what is it.....oh yeah, he has a fucking reason, and its *OBVIOUS* that he is lying, unless your are a jackass. John Lennon, a musician, has no reason to lie, he has been frank about his drug use, and frank about drug refrences in his lyrics, why would he selectively lie ?!

But I do agree that there was a level of psychedelia purposely implemented into the music, consciously, yet subjectively, and definately *NOT* intended to get the masses to start droppin acid.

They were probably just some fuckin young kids that were trippin out on acid and said,(beatles voices) "paul, you look like a bloody walrus" "*giggles* john, i think your right....you are the eggmen and i am the walrus"
*BAM* new song.

but fuck i *do* need some weed.
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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Helpme1]
    #8019303 - 02/13/08 08:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Im just trying to get you to see that you know nothing no one does. Yes I agree that there is a level of elitism here, but thats how the world works, every animal sees itself as most important, humans also see there own race or beliefs as most important or true. You are also doing this by holding your belief that there was no conspiracy over someone elses opinion. What you are doing is essentially following a dogma. there is no conclusive evidence one way or the other. it is just word of mouth, very similar to the story of jesus and all the miracles he performed.

Oh yeah and if there were a conspricy to get people to do drugs, It would be much less effective if he came out and said that there was and back in those days im sure they would have pulled the records off the shelves.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8019502 - 02/13/08 08:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hey, here's one for the conspiracy theorists.

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band was released on June 1st, 1967.

On June 17th, Time runs a story with Paul talking about having been using LSD.  He does a television news interview on the subject on the 19th.  He's very low-key for sure, but that's not the point.

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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8019571 - 02/13/08 08:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

"there is no conclusive evidence one way or the other"

...except for the countless interviews and written admissions from mccartney, lennon, harrison and ringo.


All *any* of us have (as far as fact/opinion go) is the word straight from their mouth and nothing more.

I have structured an opinion based upon the facts that have been presented to me by the writers themselves.

So i guess we agree to disagree, truely our arguement is fundementally one of semantics.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Helpme1]
    #8019622 - 02/13/08 08:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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The song "Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds" wasn't even intended to be a double entendre for LSD.





According to this article, McCartney has stated in an interview that "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" was about LSD...even though previously he had said otherwise...so who knows...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/197vgrel.asp?pg=2

But I don't think any band could cause any mass interest in any drug or anything for that matter with the exception of interest in their own music...


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: weephar]
    #8019630 - 02/13/08 09:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if lucy in the sky isnt about lsd then its a fucked song:grin:


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Middleman]
    #8019673 - 02/13/08 09:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Yes.

The Beatles were part of CIA mass mind control experiments.

Also, In ancient Egypt, Set (Satan) was also called Pep.

Many references to Pep like Sgt. Pepper and Dr. Pepper are veiled satanism.




Seriously?

First of all, I think you're giving the beatles a little too much credit.

Second, why would the CIA wan us to worship satan?

If you were being sarcastic, sorry.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8019699 - 02/13/08 09:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Lion, you're just paranoid.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Learyfan]
    #8019888 - 02/13/08 09:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The beatles are great in any state of mind. I have over 900 beatles mp3's (lots of bootlegs)


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: addy]
    #8020058 - 02/13/08 10:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

their message was love

but they were definitely a psychedelic fountain at one point and were pushing ideas through an entirely new paradigm

we take for granted that lsd has been around for a while... you have try to put yourself in their shoes a bit... lsd was new. the possibilities, endless.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #8020103 - 02/13/08 10:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It was twenty years ago today, seargent Pepper taught the band to play

Sgt. Pepper was released 20 years after Aleister Crowley died.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Learyfan]
    #10116863 - 04/06/09 01:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Listen to "Revolution 9" in reverse.  :ooo:





If this song doesnt make you overwhelmed or uneasy while on acid.. then you probably didnt have acid.

I agree with the poster.. but then again somethings weird out certain people, othe rthings dont..

people who are more in tune with drugs & music, might notice something that someone less open minded would pick upo.. idk its different with everyone..

But i think in the 60's The Grateful Dead, The Beatles, Pink Floyd, ect.. they all knew what acid did & they added that LAYER/aspect to the music.. thats what made it psy music!











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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Helpme1]
    #10116920 - 04/06/09 01:36 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Helpme1 said:
"there is no conclusive evidence one way or the other"

...except for the countless interviews and written admissions from mccartney, lennon, harrison and ringo.


All *any* of us have (as far as fact/opinion go) is the word straight from their mouth and nothing more.

I have structured an opinion based upon the facts that have been presented to me by the writers themselves.

So i guess we agree to disagree, truely our arguement is fundementally one of semantics.




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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: HorusTh3Chrous]
    #10117579 - 04/06/09 03:34 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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If this song doesnt make you overwhelmed or uneasy while on acid.. then you probably didnt have acid.




No Beatles music made me overwhelmed or uneasy when I was on acid.  I always felt that there was an underlying feeling of good intentions from The Beatles.  They made me feel safe.  I always thought of them as wholesome, but at the same time, edgier than anyone.  Perfect combo for acid music.









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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Learyfan]
    #10117791 - 04/06/09 04:15 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

oh dont get me wrong i love them.. just revolution #9 is weird on acid
and i remember magical mystery tour being weird at times, that cd is such a trip

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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #10117847 - 04/06/09 04:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I think I know exactly what you mean. The same way the Simpsons was used for a similar purpose. To keep people... docile.
They do control the media after all. Don't you wonder why so many shitty fucking bands exist and are so popular. And why do people like mindless drivel? Because they've been programmed that way. Although I think the Beatles is inherently good natured and I LOVE a lot of their music, they were definitely a tool in a part of the process. In short, I think they started out with pure intentions and became amazingly popular and got twisted by the system like has happened with a lot of bands. When you can captivate the hearts and minds of millions of people and send a message that resonates with them on many levels, the bad people want to take advantage of that. Fuckers. Always trying to mess with a good thing.

But if anyone can say songs like Yellow Submarine and Strawberry Fields weren't influenced by some fools tripping balls with a straight face, I would laugh.


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Shroomism]
    #10117922 - 04/06/09 04:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

all i have to add is Revolver =  :awebig:  :hamsterdance:


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    #10118065 - 04/06/09 05:03 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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I think I know exactly what you mean. The same way the Simpsons was used for a similar purpose. To keep people... docile.
They do control the media after all. Don't you wonder why so many shitty fucking bands exist and are so popular. And why do people like mindless drivel? Because they've been programmed that way. Although I think the Beatles is inherently good natured and I LOVE a lot of their music, they were definitely a tool in a part of the process. In short, I think they started out with pure intentions and became amazingly popular and got twisted by the system like has happened with a lot of bands. When you can captivate the hearts and minds of millions of people and send a message that resonates with them on many levels, the bad people want to take advantage of that. Fuckers. Always trying to mess with a good thing.

But if anyone can say songs like Yellow Submarine and Strawberry Fields weren't influenced by some fools tripping balls with a straight face, I would laugh.




word haha yea both songs are so trippy just in the way they sound tripping, you can tell when its the drug distorting things & you can tell when certain sounds are being heard that werent before tripping..


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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Lion]
    #10119036 - 04/06/09 07:44 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps?



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Re: Do the Beatles give anyone else the creeps? [Re: Silversoul]
    #10119130 - 04/06/09 07:54 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

just like radioheads national anthem


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