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thedudenj
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cacti advice
#8016586 - 02/13/08 08:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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two things whats the average wieght of a 12inch cutting i was thinking of buying 2kilos of cactus but on the other hand i could get a 24inch cutting for the same price.
second i have one of those weak weak strains of P torch the K#$%#@% what ever number K one it is. any who would it be worth it grafting at Bridgesii and a pedro to it or should i just graft the pedro and bridgesii on their own and get a new strong torch
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cpw1971
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Re: cacti advice [Re: thedudenj]
#8016697 - 02/13/08 09:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I believe the Torch you speak of is a slow grower compared to Bridgesii. root the Bridge on it's own and I cant tell you the wieght of a 12 inch cutting though.
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Re: cacti advice [Re: cpw1971]
#8017036 - 02/13/08 10:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cutting differ in thickness...some you can't really tell the weight of a 12inch cutting...
T. peruvianus grows pretty fast...
KK242 (T. cuzcoensis) is the completely inactive Trichocereus you likely have.
Just order a nice T. peruvianus from a reputable vendor...or you could grow it from seeds.
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Knoa6
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FarFromHere said: KK242 (T. cuzcoensis)
source?
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killerthc
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Re: cacti advice [Re: Knoa6]
#8017774 - 02/13/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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look in the Shroomery's vendor lists....
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Knoa6
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Re: cacti advice [Re: killerthc]
#8017789 - 02/13/08 01:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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no, I mean where did Teo read that KK242 is a cuzcoensis.
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thedudenj
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Re: cacti advice [Re: killerthc]
#8017795 - 02/13/08 01:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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if KK242 is inactive then i dont have it my P torch is active but very weak a arm lenght cutting was split between 3 people resulting in a mild trip and made more tar than 65 of the P troch i get dried. i havent used it to eat since. Tho i use it in medicine if you mash some of it and mix with some other stuff it maks good ointment for burns and cuts. speeds healling alot.i like to makes slaves with it for people. yeah the p torch 3 years ago any who im gona get some of their pedro cause i hear its good and Bridgesii both i will grow but im gona cut off alot of it for consumpion then let the remains grow like i did with the P torch which got pretty big. i dunno if i should get a 24inch or 3kilos of oddball
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Edited by royer9864 (02/14/08 06:01 AM)
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plainswalker
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Re: cacti advice [Re: Knoa6]
#8018885 - 02/13/08 06:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Knoa6 said:
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FarFromHere said: KK242 (T. cuzcoensis)
source?
I made a long post recently about how KK242 and cuzcoensis are not interchangable labels. Knize has put several different trichs under 242, the cactus Knize currently calls KK242 is not spiny at all, and the plant now regarded as cuzcoensis (through the mere suggestion of just one person who I believe has never been to Peru) is a quite spiny trichocereus. That was basically the gist of my post. Teo was quick to complement my post and then turns around and states the exact opposite.
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thedudenj
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i have a picture thats old i ate the big part only the bud remains and i have seen it for a year



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Re: cacti advice [Re: thedudenj]
#8019548 - 02/13/08 08:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry, Plainswalker, thanks for catching me.
YOU are correct!
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plainswalker
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Nice cactus.
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thedudenj
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yeah i have not a clue what it looks like now i cut that bud off planted it then gave it to my friend mom who is ukrainian and loves and nutures the thing deffinatly active tho but weak i was thinking if i make a super graft it would make it more active with pedro and bridgesii and anywho still which odd ball or 24 inch super strained ?
btw that pot is amazing to look at and changed colors and its really trippy i need a bigger one tho ill put my new bridgesii in it and get a bigger one for the torch and i gota get a cool pot for my san pedro im i could make a pot in my ceramics but instead im making a sake jug for coca wine at festivals specially when whereing my jap gear which is cool
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Edited by thedudenj (02/14/08 12:21 AM)
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Re: cacti advice [Re: thedudenj]
#8020608 - 02/14/08 12:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Huh?
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thedudenj
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MOD EDIT: no vendors please
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Edited by royer9864 (02/14/08 08:59 AM)
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thedudenj
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Re: cacti advice [Re: thedudenj]
#8021498 - 02/14/08 09:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok so yeah that last stuff was about that pot for growing anywho,
i couldnt decide between 3kilos of odd ball cactus or a 24 inch super strained one. btw wink wink nudge nudge you probally know from where since i cant say
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