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doitagain
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Visual Metaphor during trips
#8014822 - 02/12/08 08:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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For me psychedelics are part of a search for clarity and understanding, and in my trips I often experience these sort of AHA moments where i notice something I never had before. Until i tried 2c-b these moments of clarity were fairly separate from the visuals, and come completely from psychedelic influenced thought processes.
A week or so past I dosed 1 blue press of 2c-b from a reliable friend, and for some reason, I'm rarely a re-doser, i decided to take the other full press, and once that was like 75% intact. At some point during the experience I was laying down on my couch listening to a tool playlist and just enjoying CEVs.
Then the visuals shifted from music visualizer-esque patterns to two snakes which were intertwined and fighting each other while they swam through space and it became apparent that this was a contest of sorts between the two snakes and they were evenly matched, and because the forces they exerted on each other were in balance their flight took a very symmetrical path.
Around the same time my inner dialogue was coming to the realization that as humans we have certain energies in us that exert forces on us in different ways. Certain energies cause us to act in a way that is motivated by self-interest, others motivate empathy, and every other feeling and drive humans have. The idea is that these forces act against each other in harmony creating an balanced individual rather than one who is primarily motivated by certain forces at the expense of others.
This is a philosophical explanation of human behavior not a scientific one so keep that in mind, but I think that it's useful food for thought, and with the benefit of psychedelics one could perhaps find a way to apply it to oneself for a greater self-understanding. It's given me a better understanding of,well, me.
What I thought was crazy though was how my visuals were a metaphor for what I was thinking, I really don't know if which came first though, I think it was the visuals. Was my subconscious using my hallucinations as a platform for sending me a message?
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awesomebastard
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Re: Visual Metaphor during trips [Re: doitagain]
#8014844 - 02/12/08 08:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, this tends to happen to me during most trips.
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doitagain
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so is it the chicken or the egg?
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awesomebastard
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Re: Visual Metaphor during trips [Re: doitagain]
#8015078 - 02/12/08 09:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you mean do my thoughts cause the visauls or the visauls cause my thoughts I would say It really depends, I get both really, but I also have those visauls which seemingly have no relevence to anything.
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poeticphoto
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doitagain, thanks for sharing... Pretty cool visual. I've had similar things happen while tripping, I just haven't really thought too much about it or put it into words... But a visual metaphor is a really good way to explain it. That's what it is. Awesome. Thanks again for sharing. Happy tripping.
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Re: Visual Metaphor during trips [Re: poeticphoto]
#8016309 - 02/13/08 03:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i get snakes and worms from extending my sense of emty tubular self. the self interested ones are less beautiful than the generous ones.
my last synthetic visual was bein the capitaine of an intercomtinental bathtub potentially lost st sea in a storm.
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thedudenj
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Re: Visual Metaphor during trips [Re: redgreenvines]
#8017387 - 02/13/08 12:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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well i think this is a bit differnt but i find spirit animals actually physical ones in the world as well as people comming up to me and saying stuff for real, or acting out things. its really neat i kinda like those visuals alot tho i do like hallucination visuals too, i just find them less practical sometimes tho the can tell alot. tho i really think its neat when you see out landish things happen for real
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