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Nervous of trying ecstasy
    #8014229 - 02/12/08 06:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Okay so I've never done ecstasy before and I'm a little nervous for my first time which might be coming up soon.

I heard that some people are more sensitive to it than others because they aren't born with the proper enzymes to metabolize mdma, which can lead to easier overdoses / over heating

I've also heard that 2/100,000 people can die from it (erowid) and was wondering what this means.

I know the easy things...like drinking one liter of water an hour, but I was curious if there is anything I really need to worry about. I'm not talking about repetitive use, just trying it once. I just wouldn't want anything to go wrong on my first time, especially death or a bad reaction.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014242 - 02/12/08 06:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If it makes you feel any better, what you probably have isn't ecstasy; its probably meth. From what I hear, its more common. Hope that helps...


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: fushock]
    #8014247 - 02/12/08 06:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't have either at the moment :smile:


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014261 - 02/12/08 06:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

make sure your not allergic to it... if your allergic to nutmeg you might be allergic to MDMA... my friend was... he has spaz attacks from everything now, smoke, weed, alcohol, anything sometimes even air.....

have fun and good luck....


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: fushock]
    #8014262 - 02/12/08 06:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, ecstasy is extremely impure.

Some precausions to take to prevent dying:

Drink lots and lots of pure water, even if your not thirsty.
Don't overwork yourself physically.
Don't get in a fight. I did, and had on and off blackouts, and chest pain for 2 days. It wasn't cool.
Don't take more than two pills, you probably wont need that many anyway.

Don't be nervous though, it's an interesting experience and if you with your friends you will have a great time. The second you start rolling, you will understand why.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014265 - 02/12/08 06:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i haven't heard of someone getting pure mdma in years. most of it seems to be just a mixture of ketamine/dxm/meth/mdma.

why don't they just make pure mdma pills? wouldn't it be more expensive to go through another procedure that creates ketamine or meth?


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: killerthc]
    #8014266 - 02/12/08 06:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've tried nutmeg before so I can say i'm not allergic to it. I don't know what they have in common though.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014273 - 02/12/08 06:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm going to do half a pill my first time, not one or two. I could look it up on the few websites out there, hopefully I could find a match.


But i'm talking about just mdma, not the other mixtures. And let's say there was meth in it, I'm taking it orally so is it as bad as actually doing meth?


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014282 - 02/12/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have done "e" once. There was deff meth, not that I have done it, it just felt like what people say., not true e. I would like to do it again but i'll only do mdma not this cut garbage that comes in pills


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014283 - 02/12/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not an experienced drug user beyond one powerful psychedelic. But I think if you have nervousness, you should go ahead and pass on it. Not that you should live your life avoiding things that make you nervous. But its different with things you put inside your body, in my opinion.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014288 - 02/12/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I had the same thoughts when before I first tried ecstasy. But eventually you see a friend doing it and they seem perfectly fine, charging, but fine. Then on top of that is the dosage. A single pill if it's a good one will put of OFF CHOPS and you'll wake up wondering WTF just happened? So, start with a quarter... wait 30 - 60min, take the next quarter... by then you should start to be feeling the onset of la la land... at which point wait another hour and drop the last half. This way you can stop after having the first quarter. Also note that all pills are different and more often then not they are also cut with speed or amphetamines... this is because speed has similar effects to x (gives you more energy, confidence). Some also might have more MDMA than others.... if your not certain go to www.pillreports.com and you can search a database of user posted pills with a clear description of their "suspected" contents.

Note, if your going to do it, go to a laser light show/rave or a club with heaps of lighting and loud ass music and I guarantee you will have the best time haha.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014289 - 02/12/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Almost all dangers associated with ecstasy can be easily avoided as long as you know a few key things.

First off, dont worry so much. It will only make it that much harder to get comfortable while you are rolling. Clear your head of all your problems, drop the pills and just sit back and let it wash over you. If you go into a trip worrying about all the worst case scenarios and what not, you are going to have a bad experience.

Make sure you regulate your body temperature because it goes loopy on MDMA and spikes all over the place. The way I make sure that my body is at a reasonable threshold is to change into some light and comfortable clothing for the trip. and if I still feel as if my body is running too hot, I go outside for 5 minutes and let it come back down before going inside again.

The only time I ever hear of people dying from ecstasy is when they exert themselves all night long and forget to hydrate in between.

So go into this experience with an open mind and leave all that stress at the door. Make sure to regulate your temp and to drink a glass of water every 45-60 minutes and you should be fine. Ecstasy is an amazing drug, enjoy.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014290 - 02/12/08 06:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Not sure.

Just curious, are you parachuting, just swallowing or insuffulating?

If its the 4th option, i don't want to know haha.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: fushock]
    #8014301 - 02/12/08 06:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've spent hours researching X and it's something I really don't want to miss out on. Which is why i'm asking if it's possible for a bad reaction on half a pill.

I think passing on X because I'm nervous is a stupid reason. I just want to make sure i'm safe.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014317 - 02/12/08 06:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You wont pass out. Infact, you won't sleep for a very long time, its very hard while rolling.

Ive taken 3 pills before.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014321 - 02/12/08 06:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Forget everything you've "heard" and do your own research. You'll find that MDMA is remarkably safe. Almost everything you've heard about it and almost everything people say about it is wrong.

mdma.net

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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014323 - 02/12/08 06:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No, I don't even think you could have a bad reaction to a whole pill. But take into account that X is really farking powerful mind drug (in my opinion), la la land can get real intense (in a good way). So for your first time, again depending on the strength of the pill (ask your friend who might have had it before), you should probably have a quarter to a half... depending on the strength.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: XtraLame]
    #8014331 - 02/12/08 06:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You also get a tolerance built the more you use it. My mate took 7 over a period of 10 hours and said that afterwards all he got was a headache lol.

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I'd be more worried about the long term effects :confused:


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: XtraLame]
    #8014336 - 02/12/08 06:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Oops, i misread your post. Sorry, disregard the passing out part.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: anyone420]
    #8014344 - 02/12/08 06:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I'm doing it orally.

I won't be seeing a friend doing it since I will be the only one rolling the group :P My friends aren't into that but I will have 'sitters' and stoners who understand what i'm doing. I know that a lot of people say to have other people who are rolling with you but I can't find anyone else to do it with. Plus there aren't any raves where I live :frown:

I could start off as 1/4th a pill, and then do another 1/4th after I feel the effects. Would this be a waste though?

anyways, I won't be doing more than half a pill. But I'm 10x more sensitive to everything than my friends.

and yes, I have done hours and hours of research. And these are the dangers I've come across.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014364 - 02/12/08 06:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Nope, no matter how much you have on any interval, that ecstacy is going to be there for 2 - 5 hours (for rolling).


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: XtraLame]
    #8014373 - 02/12/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, so I guess I will start off with .25 of a pill then. I should be pretty much safe, right?


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Serdal]
    #8014398 - 02/12/08 06:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yep, have a quarter... the most you will feel will be like having had 8 red bulls... Wait for this (around 30 mins), and drop the next quarter. After 30 mins - 1 hour you will feel the effects, lights appear brighter, your thought is clear and centered, music sounds sharper, clearer and better, and you will feel the need to dance lol even if you can't. Now at this point decide whether you want to keep going or not, if you do... drop the last half in one go and enjoy the rest :smile:

Extra notes, chew gum or something because you will feel the need to grind your teeth, water around 500ml an hour, citrus juice destroys the high... orange juice, lemon juice some fruit juice anything with vit c i think...

BRING A GLOW STICK lol and take your ipod and put on your favourite tracks and you'll be dancing alone for HOUUUUUUUURSSSSSS

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sip your water, this isn't because you can't gulp... but sipping will prevent you from taking a shit load of water too quickly, and too much would be like a liter of water or something in 5 minutes. This puts you in serious danger of practically drowning your brain (forgot the technical name).


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: XtraLame]
    #8014423 - 02/12/08 06:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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citrus juice destroys the high... orange juice, lemon juice some fruit juice anything with vit c i think...




I have never ever heard anything about citrus having any lessening effect when rolling. Infact I know many people who swear by drinking orange juice will rolling. Can you supply a study or any information that says citrus lessens a roll? Because I'm having a hard time actually believing that.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: Foop]
    #8014430 - 02/12/08 06:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well i don't know where i got it from so sorry for the misinformation... lol, It's just that I always see frozen fruit juice stalls at Dance Festivals.

hehe, My bad.


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Re: Nervous of trying ecstasy [Re: wickedscepter]
    #8014486 - 02/12/08 07:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Forget everything you've "heard" and do your own research. You'll find that MDMA is remarkably safe. Almost everything you've heard about it and almost everything people say about it is wrong.

mdma.net

erowid.org




All good advice.

Fushock, I'm not sure what you've heard or maybe you're just having bad luck, there are alot of upper pills out there, but alot are just caffeine that people mistake for meth.

another link you want to look at is: http://www.dancesafe.org/slideshow/index.html
it's a simple slideshow that shows you exactly how it affects your brain.

As someone else said, bring a pack of gum to chew, and a light jacket or hoody maybe. You might want to consider waiting a little longer, having a friend with you that is also rolling will improve your whole roll. Otherwise, you're just going to have all your friends staring at you for 2 hours asking how you're feeling.

Above everything else, have a fun time.

edit: drink of eat something with high amounts of vitamin c - 1hr before you roll, it will improve it alot. And go to your local pharmacy/savon's and buy 5-htp if you can. Have 1-2 pills in the morning the day you roll, and take two right after you stop rolling. 5-htp is what your body needs to make serotonin so you'll roll harder and you won't have as much of a comedown (it is also healthier for you, your brain will be making more serotonin afterwards and won't clog serotonin neuro receptors with dopamine - thats where the only damage occurs).


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