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    #8013479 - 02/12/08 03:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8013731 - 02/12/08 04:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

NOONE has ANYTHING to say about this?  :nonono:


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8013802 - 02/12/08 04:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's definitely not good. Glad the ACLU is on it.


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: Cowgold]
    #8013810 - 02/12/08 04:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, im glad someone is paying attention.


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8013839 - 02/12/08 04:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I sleep with a shotgun. Her name is Betsy.


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8013841 - 02/12/08 04:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Who cares?

A network of people keeping their eyes open to protect our country? I'm for it


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: Boom]
    #8013890 - 02/12/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Boom said:
Who cares?

A network of people keeping their eyes open to protect our country?  I'm for it




way to let the government do what they want boom :thumbup:

so do you really think putting the power of the FBI and armed forces into the hands of private security firms in the event of martial law would be an intelligent decision?


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8013906 - 02/12/08 04:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's bullshit. Same with the privately owned prisons.


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8013911 - 02/12/08 04:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think that's an extreme example. We'll have bigger problems if martial law happens.


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: robbyberto]
    #8013939 - 02/12/08 04:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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It's bullshit. Same with the privately owned prisons.




and hospitals. none of those belong in the hands of a CORPORATION. their only goal is to maximize profits. that is their goal and obligation to their shareholders.


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8013946 - 02/12/08 04:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It doesn't surprise me that the FBI likes to use private corporations to bypass the restrictions the public put on them, for good reason. (see below wiki link)

> A network of people keeping their eyes open to protect our country? I'm for it

I am going to take a wild guess that you don't know much about the history of the FBI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cointelpro


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: Boom]
    #8013949 - 02/12/08 05:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I think that's an extreme example. We'll have bigger problems if martial law happens.




well yeah, but this certainly cant HELP. they will be given immunity just like those private security firms in iraq. they can and will do as they please so long as noone of importance is watching.


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: Boom]
    #8013950 - 02/12/08 05:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Boom said:
Who cares?

A network of people keeping their eyes open to protect our country? I'm for it




Sounds like the Okrhana, we already have multiple agencies to protect our country...


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #8014039 - 02/12/08 05:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

big brother is watching...


the fucking fbi and cia are convinced that theyre above the highest law of the country, the constitution, and they have blatantly disregarded the basic freedoms and civil liberties "guaranteed" by the aforementioned document... unless something changes eventually the constitution will be completely undermined, then theyll decide that personal freedoms just arent nessecary


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8014058 - 02/12/08 05:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

keep in mind we have checks and balances.


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: Boom]
    #8014064 - 02/12/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Boom said:
A network of people keeping their eyes open to protect our country? I'm for it




accountability

a few year back they were trying to pass legislation that would allow service
personnel like cable installers, letter carriers, telephone installes and the like
to report suspicious activity, the fact that these people are not sworn LEOs
eliminates your rights, theres no fourth amendment, they dont have to have a
warrant or probable cause, just a hunch and the fun part, the FBI can say
"we didnt authorize them to do that, the were acting of their own volition"


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #8014107 - 02/12/08 05:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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keep in mind we have checks and balances.



yes, but that only works for so long

and it doesnt work when the violators keep it a secret that the violations happened in the first place, as a lot of the shit the fbi does

i dont trust the government, you cant rely on it to check itself, there needs to be much more the people can do to put a check on their powers, as theyre constantly infringing on our rights as human beings


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8014171 - 02/12/08 05:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Terrifying.


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8014275 - 02/12/08 06:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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The_Red_Crayon said:
keep in mind we have checks and balances.



yes, but that only works for so long

and it doesnt work when the violators keep it a secret that the violations happened in the first place, as a lot of the shit the fbi does

i dont trust the government, you cant rely on it to check itself, there needs to be much more the people can do to put a check on their powers, as theyre constantly infringing on our rights as human beings




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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8014332 - 02/12/08 06:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

People still have a right to check the authority of the government, compared to most 3rd world nations, our security and intelligence apparatuses are mild compared to 3rd world countries where death squads are the only solution to their concurrent political problems.


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #8014340 - 02/12/08 06:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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People still have a right to check the authority of the government, compared to most 3rd world nations, our security and intelligence apparatuses are mild compared to 3rd world countries where death squads are the only solution to their concurrent political problems.




we have the right. but many choose not to use that right. :nonono:


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8014343 - 02/12/08 06:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Dirty Business


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: Rebirtha]
    #8014349 - 02/12/08 06:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Nice to know that domestic matters will be handled the same way international security matters will be handled. I feel so Iraqi right now.


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8014366 - 02/12/08 06:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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The_Red_Crayon said:
People still have a right to check the authority of the government, compared to most 3rd world nations, our security and intelligence apparatuses are mild compared to 3rd world countries where death squads are the only solution to their concurrent political problems.




we have the right. but many choose not to use that right. :nonono:




Not gonna disagree with that at all, but change relies on the individual.


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #8014415 - 02/12/08 06:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Nice to know that domestic matters will be handled the same way international security matters will be handled. I feel so Iraqi right now.





Can't say I'm all that surprised.  It always did seem like the next step.:thumbdown:


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #8014482 - 02/12/08 07:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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leftysurprise said:
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The_Red_Crayon said:
People still have a right to check the authority of the government, compared to most 3rd world nations, our security and intelligence apparatuses are mild compared to 3rd world countries where death squads are the only solution to their concurrent political problems.




we have the right. but many choose not to use that right. :nonono:




Not gonna disagree with that at all, but change relies on the individual.




i agree, but when it comes to the government, a handful of stand up citizens are not going to change anything. its going to take most of us working together. :shrug:


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #8014814 - 02/12/08 08:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

thing is, most "individuals" have had the wool pulled over their eyes and are blinded to whats really happening

thank god for the aclu, but we need more than them to protect our rights


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #17730792 - 02/02/13 03:34 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Second amendment MoFo's...:guns: . . . :peace:


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Re: FBI deputizes private security groups. [Re: vinsue]
    #17730801 - 02/02/13 03:36 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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