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How can mushrooms grow in the wild ?
    #8013151 - 02/12/08 12:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

How ??
All the work to grow shrooms is mostly just keeping anything but the wanted fungus from growing
So how can it happen in the wild ?


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Re: How can mushrooms grow in the wild ? [Re: arainbow]
    #8013220 - 02/12/08 12:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Everything we do to grow shrooms is trying to mimic their natural environment. Also, keep in mind mushrooms put out millions of spores, only a few on the millions actually make it.


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Re: How can mushrooms grow in the wild ? [Re: cactastic]
    #8013336 - 02/12/08 01:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

in a natural environment there is always some sort of fungus or bactirea something living of some kind every place
there is no such a thing as a biological vacuum in natural environments
like the ones created to grow mycelium


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Re: How can mushrooms grow in the wild ? [Re: arainbow]
    #8013509 - 02/12/08 03:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ITS A MIRACLE THAT GROWS OUTTA SHIT and DEADSTUFFS! MAYBE SHIT IS THE MIRACLE!!!! HOLY SHIT!!!!


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Re: How can mushrooms grow in the wild ? [Re: Gretchenmeister]
    #8013519 - 02/12/08 03:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Oh yeah i bet this thread gets moved pronto too!!!!


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Re: How can mushrooms grow in the wild ? [Re: arainbow]
    #8013932 - 02/12/08 04:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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arainbow said:
in a natural environment there is always some sort of fungus or bactirea something living of some kind every place
there is no such a thing as a biological vacuum in natural environments
like the ones created to grow mycelium




actually i thought i heard on the news a while ago about these dead zones in the ocean where nothing can live, and that we created them through polution


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Re: How can mushrooms grow in the wild ? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8013947 - 02/12/08 05:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

as for the op, i think the reason is because millions of spores = millions of chances. Mushrooms are much stronger in the wild "natural selection" + "built up immunity"

also in the wild their is so much fresh air, alot more equilibruim. "at least their used to be before us humans demolished the world"


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Re: How can mushrooms grow in the wild ? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8014605 - 02/12/08 07:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

^He put it better than I could have. Also in the wild they don't grow on brown rice or wbs, etc. which are a prime food source for contams as well.


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Re: How can mushrooms grow in the wild ? [Re: desertturtle]
    #8014912 - 02/12/08 08:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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^He put it better than I could have. Also in the wild they don't grow on brown rice or wbs, etc. which are a prime food source for contams as well.



HAY! I would be the first to agree that we are Mucking up the planet!
Even dung is full of microbes and fungi and it dose get at least pasteurized before use .
BUT how do mushrooms get any kind of foot hold to grow in the wild ?
Is there some kind of microbe or fungi that supports the mycelium ?
Is there some place else to ask this question ?


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Re: How can mushrooms grow in the wild ? [Re: arainbow]
    #8015522 - 02/12/08 10:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

makaveli mentioned the equilibrium between thousands of molds, bacterias, etc. The mushrooms have a huge slate(the world) and get a foot hold where they can. I think you're looking for a more technical answer, but the competition of these organisms allows them to thrive in different places. I'm trying to explain it better, but I'm not so good with words. :wink: thought I'd try anway.


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Re: How can mushrooms grow in the wild ? (moved) [Re: arainbow]
    #8034062 - 02/17/08 09:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.

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moved to cultivation. Not an advanced topic.


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Re: How can mushrooms grow in the wild ? [Re: desertturtle]
    #11774908 - 01/06/10 04:47 AM (14 years, 25 days ago)

The complexity of the mixture is the key thing here.  In a purified culture a single contaminant can outgrow the mushroom mycelium because there is nothing else there to keep it under control.  In the wild there may be thousands of organisms ranging from viruses / phages up to insects and worms all of which have a favoured food source.  If one organism starts to take over then whatever feeds on it will have a field day until whatever feeds on it starts to increase and so the equilibrium is maintained.

The definition of success is also different in nature and in culture. In nature the organism is successful if it manages to pass its genes to a new generation whereas we are looking to produce artificially raised yields within a very small area.  I remember grow trays bristling with fruit, I've never seen natural mushrooms growing at this density and this creates issues that if one fruit gets attacked by a mite or bacterium etc the disease will rapidly spread through the crop.

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