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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: Phred]
#8016568 - 02/13/08 08:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phred: Which 'vestiges' are you talking about?
Texas and Ohio: I personally expect her to win Texas. I don't know about Ohio though.
That the whole thing could be decided by Super-Delegates is disheartening to me.
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lonestar2004
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8016733 - 02/13/08 09:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Madtowntripper said: It'll be over on the evening of March 3rd, barring a miracle.
Oh PULEASE.....The Clintons will NEVER let a BLACK DUDE BEAT THEM!!
NEVER!!!!
There's going to be blood in the streets.
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: blackegg]
#8016739 - 02/13/08 09:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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blackegg said: That the whole thing could be decided by Super-Delegates is disheartening to me.
Well, you know how the Democrats are sooooo "Progressive" and all....
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: lonestar2004]
#8016963 - 02/13/08 10:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Are you drunk? I'm just asking because you seem 'impaired' in some way.
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: blackegg]
#8016981 - 02/13/08 10:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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blackegg said: Are you drunk?
Are you delusional?
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: lonestar2004]
#8016997 - 02/13/08 10:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, seriously...are you drunk? Pulled another all-nighter at the titty bar and now you're here to rip-some-shit on the political forums?
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: blackegg]
#8017008 - 02/13/08 10:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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VIVA LA REVOLUTION!
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: lonestar2004]
#8017075 - 02/13/08 10:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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hahaha... that's more like it.
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: Phred]
#8017473 - 02/13/08 12:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phred, have you been paying attention the last 8 years? How the fuck can socialized medicine (not that I support it) possibly be worse for our economy than an intellectually-challenged man-ape spending over $6 Billion dollars a month on someone else's country???
At least with a Dem the money will be spent on the people who it was taken from.
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: ApJunkie]
#8017493 - 02/13/08 12:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The amount of money that socialized medicine will cost and the degradation of care that will ensue, not to mention the medical scrutiny that all of the dopers, fatties and risk takers will be subject to, will make the money spent in Iraq look like something bought at the dollar store.
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: zappaisgod]
#8017529 - 02/13/08 12:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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regardless, it's an absurd fallacy to say the Dem's will destroy this country after the reckless infrastructure destruction propagated by the current administration.
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: ApJunkie]
#8017594 - 02/13/08 01:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Somebody seems to not be aware that there is a Congress and state governments, which are far more responsible than any administration for that particular bit of business.
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: zappaisgod]
#8017944 - 02/13/08 02:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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"the degradation of care that will ensue" ...for who?
The best healthcare money can buy will still be available to those that can afford it!
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: blackegg]
#8017966 - 02/13/08 02:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It is obviously true that gazillionaires will have all they can get, as ever. The degradation will occur for the middle, who will become lumped with the poor and the health care providers will become bureaucrats instead of....providers. Every denial of care they perform will be seen as a boon for the collective. It will become in the interest of the collective to deny the individual. I should posterize that:
It will become in the interest of the collective to deny the individual
Karl Marx 101
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: zappaisgod]
#8018120 - 02/13/08 03:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: The amount of money that socialized medicine will cost and the degradation of care that will ensue, not to mention the medical scrutiny that all of the dopers, fatties and risk takers will be subject to, will make the money spent in Iraq look like something bought at the dollar store.
Sources? Or is that just more of the same, typical, bullshit mud-flinging, desperately seeking an adhesive target? I mean, you do realize that the top Repub candidate has seriously entertained the possibility of 100 years in Iraq. No way in god damned hell can our country afford that, in any sense of the word.
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: unbeliever]
#8018133 - 02/13/08 03:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wonder how much money Bush's prescription drug benefit for seniors will end up costing?
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: unbeliever]
#8018135 - 02/13/08 03:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mean, you do realize that the top Repub candidate has seriously entertained the possibility of 100 years in Iraq.
The US has been sixty-two years in Japan and Germany, fifty-five or so in South Korea. That is the context in which McCain made his remark, as those who bothered to read the actual remark rather than reflexively parrot Leftie talking points know.
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: Phred]
#8018147 - 02/13/08 03:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phred said:
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I mean, you do realize that the top Repub candidate has seriously entertained the possibility of 100 years in Iraq.
The US has been sixty-two years in Japan and Germany, fifty-five or so in South Korea. That is the context in which McCain made his remark, as those who bothered to read the actual remark rather than reflexively parrot Leftie talking points know.
Yes and 100 years in Iraq will be the same as our long presence in Japan or Germany. Get a fucking clue.
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: zorbman]
#8018150 - 02/13/08 03:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wonder how much money Bush's prescription drug benefit for seniors will end up costing?
Way too fucking much. The only thing good one can say about it (and I admit it's not much of a much) is that the Dems pissed and moaned that his plan wasn't enough.
This cockamamie "economic stimulus plan" with the 600 dollar rebates will cost too much, too. Total fuckup. Again, the Dems wanted even more cash handed out, but that doesn't give Bush and the Republicans a pass on it. Sheer stupidity.
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Re: For Clinton, Bid Hinges on Texas and Ohio [Re: Phred]
#8018179 - 02/13/08 03:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phred said:
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I wonder how much money Bush's prescription drug benefit for seniors will end up costing?
Way too fucking much. The only thing good one can say about it (and I admit it's not much of a much) is that the Dems pissed and moaned that his plan wasn't enough.
This cockamamie "economic stimulus plan" with the 600 dollar rebates will cost too much, too. Total fuckup. Again, the Dems wanted even more cash handed out, but that doesn't give Bush and the Republicans a pass on it. Sheer stupidity.
Phred
I tend to agree with you on that. Don't get me wrong, I'll be glad to have the extra cash, who wouldn't. But it's not very fiscally responsible (speaking as a society). It's a band-aid on a beached whale.
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