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ChronicBarry
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Finished my FC; How's my light source? PICS
#8006740 - 02/10/08 10:02 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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So I finished my simple FC I will be using for my casings. As you can see in the pictures, I will have three casing of WBS spawned to coco coir and coffee.
My question is, what light setup is optimal? Either one light over the middle casing or two lights? I just don't want the middle to favored too much that the rest. Also, there is a 8.5 inch space between where the top of the casing will be and the top of the chamber. Will this be adequate room for the shroomies to grow?
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ChronicBarry
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Re: Finished my FC; How's my light source? PICS [Re: ChronicBarry]
#8006761 - 02/10/08 10:05 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Sorry, forgot the pictures 

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Re: Finished my FC; How's my light source? PICS [Re: ChronicBarry]
#8006764 - 02/10/08 10:05 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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I don't see any pictures... ???
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Re: Finished my FC; How's my light source? PICS [Re: spieone]
#8006782 - 02/10/08 10:09 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Now I can see it, nice set up. I would think that one light would be adequate, but I am definately no expert.
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Re: Finished my FC; How's my light source? PICS [Re: spieone]
#8006798 - 02/10/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Very nice setup, I like that a lot. That one light will be sufficient but in the future you may want to look into something a little better. Maybe some type of hanging shop light.
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Civ
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Re: Finished my FC; How's my light source? PICS [Re: KillerPicklez]
#8007712 - 02/11/08 05:59 AM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Looks like a solid chamber. Some changes should be made though.
You will want that light farther from your FC- You don't want any of the heat from the light messing with your chamber. You can force the excess release of moisture when you have a light BULB that close to your caseings. Kinda like a mild broil on the top of your trays. I stoped useing lights a while back- I just use the sun and go with the flow. Depending on wattage you can find charts online that will let you know the penitration strength (bad term, mindblanked on the true term) - Hold your hand in front of your light, you can feel the heat- just move it back a few feet. Floros you can get away with that close ass lighting.
Air tight is NOT what you want. During colonization you can get away with choking your trays, but in fruiting stages, you want them to breath as much as they desire. Holes with polyfil or tyvek (or some get to the point where they don't even use anything in the holes) will let the Co2 "fall out" the bottom (its heavier that o2) And with keeping your relative humidty where you want. Even if you use a air pump you will want some holes, it will help greatly.
The area in the FC should be relative to the amount and deph of your trays. IME you don't want more than 3 times the area of your caseing as open space unless you can control it all.
For shits and giggles, say, your trays are 10x10in l/w and three inches deep. Then you would want no more than 20x20 open area with nine inches of vertical distance. Thats if your looking for how big you can get it without laggin on FAE. Your setup now, sizewise is good.
This is just the math I use when working with PmPs, monos, and FCs (FCs w/o wires/pumps/power/etc) When your running bigger FCs, you can get away with crapload of more space- with a coolmist and ultrasonic going.
If you do have a pump on that FC- I would say that area is great, if not perfect.
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Edited by Civ (02/11/08 06:04 AM)
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blood4blood
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Re: Finished my FC; How's my light source? PICS [Re: Civ]
#8007716 - 02/11/08 06:03 AM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Civ-
in a mono i read in a recent post that you recomend putting the holes below the sub.
how is this going to work with the plastic bag going just below the holes that the sub will be sitting in.
im about to try the nothing in the holes technique for my mono and i cant find that last thread that you mentioned that in so that's why im asking you again.
thanks.
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blood4blood said: Civ-
in a mono i read in a recent post that you recomend putting the holes below the sub.
how is this going to work with the plastic bag going just below the holes that the sub will be sitting in.
im about to try the nothing in the holes technique for my mono and i cant find that last thread that you mentioned that in so that's why im asking you again.
thanks.
Nothing in the holes works as your fruits come in, for me (but others do it different) but nothing over your holes during colonization would be bad. I have something in the my holes (ewww) up untill I have a full pinset. THEN if my sub seems hydrated enough, I open the holes one at a time, so I can monitor the progess before I dry out my caseing by to much FAE.
You want it semi-sealed during colonization- I put tape over the tyvek holes, until its time to fruit, then expose to fae, light and lower temps.
If you have a garbage bag as a liner, they are slightly breathable- most anyways, but I take a clean needle and poke holes in the plastic next to the bottom holes(after 100% colonization) before I stuff it full of polyfill or tyvek. Your substrate wont fall out when your 100% colonizaed.
 Drill em'
 Lay down plastic.
 Note that the holes are taped during colonization. Its not 100% air tight because the lids not sealed.
 Remove tape, add poly, case (yes case) and expose to the rest of the fruiting triggers (temp, light, fae)
 Fruiting (no poly in top holes, wish I had more holes)
 Then dunk and start over I use 2x as many holes now, depeding on depth, flush and temp.
So, yeah, if your running a 4 inch sub- you can put the holes anywhere below that 4 inch mark- 1/4 inch holes I place 1 inch apart- the bigger the holes, the farther apart, 1/2 holes are 2 inches apart, etc. More smaller ones IME are better than a few large holes for sure.
I only use "nothing" in my tubs holes if I think the current flush is not breathing and getting the fae it wants. RR suggests not even sealing your lid- it works wonders during fruiting.
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Re: holes in mono/single tub [Re: Civ]
#8007746 - 02/11/08 06:38 AM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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great info civ. thanks for the response.
i did mm's mono tub tek so i have four 2" holes on each side/. i plan on duct taping them and leaving the lid loose during colonization. during fruiting i plan on having the top 2 holes on each side stuffed with poly and leaving the bottom two open. ill be keeping an eye on the moisture levels. i want to somehow incorporate a bubblestone in some water in there also. but what do you think bout the hole set-up?
the reason why i want to go with nothing in my holes is because im leaning torwards poly being the reasoning behind my last monotub contamination>
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Civ
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Re: holes in mono/single tub [Re: blood4blood]
#8007777 - 02/11/08 06:59 AM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Keeps holes filled till you have a pinset. Just my experiance.
Once you add lights, pumps, wands, etc, your not "setting it and forgetting it" as the single tub cheer goes. Your more making a Fruiting chamber.
Don't add a mister though, the area and subdepth provide more than enough of all that.
Polyfill itself can't contaminate you. I enjoy my polyfil being DAMP with spores dropping from the fruit. I know when my polyfil is purple from spores that nothing else will be growing on it Thats not very professional, I know - But I change my poly between flushes.
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Re: holes in mono/single tub [Re: Civ]
#8007904 - 02/11/08 08:26 AM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Switching gears back to my FC, should I put holes after I have a pinset? After I spawn, I'm putting the trays in the incubator till colonized and right to the FC once cased. Would you recommend I drill them below the top of the casing or slightly above the casing level? If you notice in the picture, the 3 tin foil trays fit perfectly in the tub, yet there is open space below them.
I did not incorporate a bubbler system and really would rather not. I originally figured fanning with the lid would be enough FAE (2nd grow attempt, 1st was BRF cakes) but adding holes won't be problem.
To clear of the light issue, think it would be better to just use the sunlight? My room gets really bright and to maintain 12/12, I can just cover the clear lid at night to shield it from my lamps and such.
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