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Expected Yield?
#8011716 - 02/12/08 01:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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So if I use vermiculite and brown rice flower substrate in 10 1/2 pint jars, what could i expect for yield assuming all goes well?
Also, is there a difference in growing magic mushrooms between using brown rice flour and organic brown rice flour?
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: Helvales]
#8011732 - 02/12/08 01:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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about an ounce enough for you and a couple buddies to trip
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: large_dose]
#8011737 - 02/12/08 01:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I use the redmill brown rice flour you can find it at just about any grocery store.
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: large_dose]
#8011887 - 02/12/08 02:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Murphy's law is for every two lb's of substrate 1oz of mushrooms (after drying) will be produced and I can vouch for it 98% perfect.
Even with a small surface area I never average below a oz and a half dry for the first flush, I'm sure if I wasn't so cheap (or inventive) that I could expand on the surface area and have much better cropping but meh, I make do with what I have at hand.
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: HybridprX]
#8011952 - 02/12/08 03:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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6 quarts of spawn can yeild you near a half pound of dry mush. Just need to keep it flushing!
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: Civ]
#8011975 - 02/12/08 03:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Been a while since I did PF stuff but I believe 2-5g per cake is roughly average. I believe someone pulled a little over 10g off a cake a long time ago but that was with a single isolated substrain in more than ideal conditions just for the simple point of seeing the limits.
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: Smushroom]
#8012671 - 02/12/08 10:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Beside the fact, that the question was asked about a hundred times before and could have easily been found if you used the search function, it's not actually possible to tell what the yield of a PF-cake or any other method is. I don't want to be pissy, but you have to understand that it's pretty annoying to see the same question be asked OVER AND OVER AGAIN, while they've been answered a ton of times before. So it's nothing personal, but do yourself a favor and use the search function. All the questions a "newbie" could have, have been answered already and just have to tipped into the search function! 
back to topic...
Sometimes you get good results and sometimes you don't. I've had cakes that produced eight "flushes" which was about 20 grams dry, while I had casings that ran out of flushes pretty early and it came out that the yield was about 5 grams dry.
There are SO many different results that no one can actually tell, how big your yield will be! An "average" is always a guess and will probably never be achieved by you or me. Just try to treat your mushrooms as accurate as possible and be happy about every fruit that shows up. Believe me! That way you'll never be disappointed 
Good luck!
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: Fahkface]
#8012694 - 02/12/08 10:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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lmfao bullllllllchit .. ive been getting 10 to 12 dry grams off each cake and almost 19 off another and have the cake pics to back it up ! all on the first flushes ! it all depends on the strains ..just mist A LOT and give lots of fae .. cheers ..
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It doesn't depend on the "strain" at all! The strain doesn't matter, as long the specific genetics are good. When your mushroom has kick ass genetics, the strain is completely unintersting!
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: Fahkface]
#8012755 - 02/12/08 10:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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There's no telling, it depends greatly on your technique, environment, substrate, etc..
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: Fahkface]
#8012757 - 02/12/08 10:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It doesn't depend on the "strain" at all! The strain doesn't matter, as long the specific genetics are good. When your mushroom has kick ass genetics, the strain is completely unintersting!
strain / substrain < = a strain marked by specific genetics related to it .. i knew wot i meant at least haha
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it all depends on the strains
It doesn't depend on the "strain" at all! The strain doesn't matter, as long the specific genetics are good. When your mushroom has kick ass genetics, the strain is completely unintersting!
strain / substrain < = a strain marked by specific genetics related to it .. i knew wot i meant at least haha
I think he meant genetics as in genetics from an isolate, rather than "strain" as applied to a large group (B+,PE,etc)?
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I know what the actual definition of strain is, but the all around used definition for it is such things as "Golden Teacher", "Ecuador", "Thai- Koh Samui" etc. Therefore you better should have used the word genetics instead of strains!
Except for clones, no one is able to tell wether it's a good "strain" or a fucked up "strain". You can grow an ass load of fruits from a substrate that's colonized with a mushroom that developed nice genetics, while the next time you use the syringe, the yield sucks. Curse of multispore inoculation, which most of the people -especially people who are new to the business- use.
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Sometimes you get good results and sometimes you don't.
As I stated before, you can be lucky OR not.
The only thing you can do about it, is to use an isolate and to create the best surroundings for you mushrooms.
Therefore, it's not "bullllllllchit".
The "fact" that you had good results with your cakes, doesn't mean that's an average! Not at all! It's a lot more likely to get A LOT less!
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: Fahkface]
#8012822 - 02/12/08 10:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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so a substrain from a particular strain isnt an isolate quality ?
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An isolate is started from agar, while only the best mycelium parts are used to create more mycelium and so on. Strong and rhizomorphic mycelium is more likely to fruit well.
A sub "strain" is developed as soon as two mycelium strings create new genetics. The so developed mushroom is different from the mushroom the print / spores came from and therefore all the strain hysteria is actually useless. Sure, certain characteristics stay, although sometimes a self cultivated fruit looks TOTALLY different from the mushroom the spores came from.
So as long as you don't work with isolates or clones you can't tell what comes out in the end...
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: Fahkface]
#8013085 - 02/12/08 12:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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a 1/2 pint pf cake will yield 3-7 grams 5 being average.
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: flavoraid]
#8013125 - 02/12/08 12:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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flavoraid said: a 1/2 pint pf cake will yield 3-7 grams 5 being average.
that's about what i get. at least 1/8 oz per cake per flush on average.
10 cakes, i would guess 1 oz dry for your first flush
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: enesi]
#8013142 - 02/12/08 12:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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that's about what i get. at least 1/8 oz per cake per flush on average.
10 cakes, i would guess 1 oz dry for your first flush
man i better learn a cloning tek quick then cos im pulling double the max there
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You won't come far with cakes. If it's really the pure amount your after, do bulk techniques!
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flavoraid said: a 1/2 pint pf cake will yield 3-7 grams 5 being average.
that's about what i get. at least 1/8 oz per cake per flush on average.
10 cakes, i would guess 1 oz dry for your first flush
man i better learn a cloning tek quick then cos im pulling double the max there
that's great for you dude. every single cake you've ever done has been that way? even when you were a noob like the OP here? Highly doubt it.
i would say on AVERAGE, that 3-7 grams is a fine expected yield of your normal spore syringed half pint cake. there are those that get large yields, and those that get ZERO. get over yourself, you're not special
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: enesi]
#8013203 - 02/12/08 12:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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flavoraid said: a 1/2 pint pf cake will yield 3-7 grams 5 being average.
that's about what i get. at least 1/8 oz per cake per flush on average.
10 cakes, i would guess 1 oz dry for your first flush
man i better learn a cloning tek quick then cos im pulling double the max there
that's great for you dude. every single cake you've ever done has been that way? even when you were a noob like the OP here? Highly doubt it.
i would say on AVERAGE, that 3-7 grams is a fine expected yield of your normal spore syringed half pint cake. there are those that get large yields, and those that get ZERO. get over yourself, you're not special
get a load of you you lil tosser lmao i am a fukin noob and i was being quite serious .. i dont want no mf 3 gram cake if thats the norm ..so to your comment , yes ive done 15 cakes and not 1 been less than 8 grams on a first flush .. you sound jealous and spiteful almost popping off at a simple post like that .. keep reading ull get better ! hahahaha
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Damn man... You're really aggressive! There's ABSOLUTELY no need for it!
10 gram per flush isn't normal and sooner or later you'll get to the point where you'll cultivate some cakes that produce maybe about 3 grams. You might have created a good environment for your mushrooms, but most of it is simply luck. No more!
So maybe now your average on cakes is 9 or 10 gram. You said it yourself: you did 15 cakes. I did about 200 cakes and my average is a max of 6 per flush. That doesn't mean, that I'm the one who creates the average but your average will be lower and lower the more cakes you do, since it's a normal process that some yields are just bad!
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flavoraid said: a 1/2 pint pf cake will yield 3-7 grams 5 being average.
that's about what i get. at least 1/8 oz per cake per flush on average.
10 cakes, i would guess 1 oz dry for your first flush
man i better learn a cloning tek quick then cos im pulling double the max there
that's great for you dude. every single cake you've ever done has been that way? even when you were a noob like the OP here? Highly doubt it.
i would say on AVERAGE, that 3-7 grams is a fine expected yield of your normal spore syringed half pint cake. there are those that get large yields, and those that get ZERO. get over yourself, you're not special
get a load of you you lil tosser lmao i am a fukin noob and i was being quite serious .. i dont want no mf 3 gram cake if thats the norm ..so to your comment , yes ive done 15 cakes and not 1 been less than 8 grams on a first flush .. you sound jealous and spiteful almost popping off at a simple post like that .. keep reading ull get better ! hahahaha
lmao, whatever you say dude, i don't even fuck with cakes anymore, they aren't where the yields at. And i've done a LOT more then 15 cakes 
you're still not special, but keep telling yourself that
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: Fahkface]
#8013279 - 02/12/08 01:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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it is annoying to see the same question asked over and over again
just post an estimate for the beginner and forget the thread...
im glad you guys get MAD flushes from your cakes but in all honesty i dont see a first timer getting 10 grams from one flush, seriously.
2-3 grams max per cake first flush.
IMO
Edited by large_dose (02/12/08 01:13 PM)
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: Fahkface]
#8013282 - 02/12/08 01:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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wtf man i BELIEVE ALL OF YOU ! this is why i said i want to learn how to isolate or clone ! it wasnt bragging it was surprise at my success and wanting to continue it before the ineviable 3 gram cakes came .. then i get this moron telling me to "get over myself" for being happy and surprised at my recent grows and dissapointed at the realistic size of most cakes .. read the quotes bro
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: enesi]
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that's about what i get. at least 1/8 oz per cake per flush on average.
10 cakes, i would guess 1 oz dry for your first flush
man i better learn a cloning tek quick then cos im pulling double the max there
that's great for you dude. every single cake you've ever done has been that way? even when you were a noob like the OP here? Highly doubt it.
i would say on AVERAGE, that 3-7 grams is a fine expected yield of your normal spore syringed half pint cake. there are those that get large yields, and those that get ZERO. get over yourself, you're not special
get a load of you you lil tosser lmao i am a fukin noob and i was being quite serious .. i dont want no mf 3 gram cake if thats the norm ..so to your comment , yes ive done 15 cakes and not 1 been less than 8 grams on a first flush .. you sound jealous and spiteful almost popping off at a simple post like that .. keep reading ull get better ! hahahaha
lmao, whatever you say dude, i don't even fuck with cakes anymore, they aren't where the yields at. And i've done a LOT more then 15 cakes 
you're still not special, but keep telling yourself that
lmfao ok cant remember thinking im special only you saying i thought i was?! im glad u have such experience .. i too moved on from cakes before i even fruited my first one .. i got tubs going myself .. must burn yuor azz to see a noob doing what you cant
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RoYaL_fLuSh said: wtf man i BELIEVE ALL OF YOU ! this is why i said i want to learn how to isolate or clone ! it wasnt bragging it was surprise at my success and wanting to continue it before the ineviable 3 gram cakes came .. then i get this moron telling me to "get over myself" for being happy and surprised at my recent grows and dissapointed at the realistic size of most cakes .. read the quotes bro
your first reply you were screaming bullshit about the average yields given by the majority of people
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: large_dose]
#8013303 - 02/12/08 01:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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large_dose said: it is annoying to see the same question asked over and over again
just post an estimate for the beginner and forget the thread...
im glad you guys get MAD flushes from your cakes but in all honesty i dont see a first timer getting 10 grams from one flush, seriously.
2-3 grams max per cake first flush.
IMO
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7988599#Post7988599
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8012343#Post8012343
now you can see it ! lol i knew fuk all when i started these ... luck and subsequqent reading to give them a good home did wonders
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: enesi]
#8013316 - 02/12/08 01:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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RoYaL_fLuSh said: wtf man i BELIEVE ALL OF YOU ! this is why i said i want to learn how to isolate or clone ! it wasnt bragging it was surprise at my success and wanting to continue it before the ineviable 3 gram cakes came .. then i get this moron telling me to "get over myself" for being happy and surprised at my recent grows and dissapointed at the realistic size of most cakes .. read the quotes bro
your first reply you were screaming bullshit about the average yields given by the majority of people
i was told 7 when i first started growing and expected at least that .. then i put out double plus .. i really believed 7 was minimal .. thats it man ..
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man, my first cakes are still colonizing, hearing 2-7 grams 5 ave is really a let down, i was expecting to have like 5 ounces on 6 cakes after they where done, i even told my sister her husband 2 of my friends my girlfriend they all get tons of free shrooms whenever they want, i made no promises..
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: BEEP]
#8013376 - 02/12/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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look at my links i posted .. im doing quite well with it all , you may get lucky like me ! im getting an oz off of 3 cakes just about .. and thats just from the first flush ... or you could always read up and spawn a couple to a bulk substrate ... once you got healthy myc ne thing is possible ! cheers and gl
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: BEEP]
#8013379 - 02/12/08 01:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Too bad.
It is easy to imagine infinite shrooms growing from cakes... but that is not how they work. It is a pipe dream... if you expect BULK from a few cakes.
Don't count your chickens before they hatch... and don't promise to give people shrooms which have not yet grown.
Also, if you wish to make your money back... this is NOT the place to talk about it.
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RoYaL_fLuSh said: lmfao bullllllllchit .. ive been getting 10 to 12 dry grams off each cake and almost 19 off another and have the cake pics to back it up ! all on the first flushes ! it all depends on the strains ..just mist A LOT and give lots of fae .. cheers ..
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7988599#Post7988599
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8012343#Post8012343
im sorry but you did not get 19 grams dry off a 1/2 pint cake in 1 flush. and those pics are not 10 to 12 grams dry in 1 cake....who are you trying to fool? you are either lying or not drying your shrooms properly
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thats right cubes in december bitches
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a 500ml crumbled and cased to increase cropping will produce anywhere from 3.5 to 7.0g's dry.
I know of people that have pulled off 14g's dry from 500ml cakes. Or so they claimed. I myself have had had 14g's dry off two 500ml cakes substituting the brf for rye flour, rye flour still requires a pressure cooker.
P.S that is 1000ml of cased rye flour cakes.
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flavoraid said: a 1/2 pint pf cake will yield 3-7 grams 5 being average.
that's about what i get. at least 1/8 oz per cake per flush on average.
10 cakes, i would guess 1 oz dry for your first flush
man i better learn a cloning tek quick then cos im pulling double the max there
I mean dry and if you claim 14 grams dry per cake I don't think that's even possible on freak occurance unless you inject like dog food broth into your cakes reservoir.
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: flavoraid]
#8014526 - 02/12/08 07:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its just a brag.
The avg first timer wont get nearly that much... which i think he was asking, average.
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: large_dose]
#8014551 - 02/12/08 07:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fahster is like the cake god and he doesn't get that much.
I used some coffee and rye flour with a reservoir for a bunch of 1/2 pint cakes and got 6-7 dry per cake.
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: enesi]
#8015106 - 02/12/08 09:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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um yeah actually i have been pulling 10s and 12s cracker dry .. and the tc 1 isnt a 1/2 pint it is a bit bigger ... bout 1 3/5 pints .. it was in a not full tupperware screw on and still it was 18.3 grams so yah hate if you want ... look at the plate pic and tell me thats not over 8 grams eh ? why do you all cry and try to tear down someones success just because its unknown to you ? i got a bad ass substrain/genetics going on those and they are what they are .. 1 day youll get lucky too and deal with ppl telling you ur full of it then ull see .. the pics speak for themselves ..
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chill out man we're fucking with you
"one of these days ill get lucky too"?????? dude ive grown shrooms more times then youve taken a shit
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thats right cubes in december bitches
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yak yak yak
were all just hatin chill bra.
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your a tosser and a whiner like the rest bro .. someone has success u havent you cry bullshit .. i got 18 .3 off something a little bigger than a 1/2 and i get 10 on the regular .. fuk how long ppl have been here a grow is a grow .. look at that plate post and tell me that didnt weigh 10 grams eh .. i know it dod cos i weighed it and it was brittle dry .. learn ur trade better .. a noob is outshining u lmfao
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I could put a pound of weed on a plate and say it came from a 1/4 pint pf cake or a bottle of water even. Doesn't mean it would make any sense and doesn't mean anyone would believe me.
completely off topic has nothing to do with your posts.
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: flavoraid]
#8015356 - 02/12/08 09:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i know man but that came from a cake .. the cake with the mushies on it is in the string of pics on like the 5th post of this thread
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oh whoops lol looks like we have another dummy eh cubensis cutter ? face it its real and in our face .. btw you never prooved ur point .. potency is in the genetics and not the sub .. rookie .. please talk some more smack
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id put that more around 10g, unless your plates are smaller than mine.
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: flavoraid]
#8015462 - 02/12/08 10:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol this thread is pretty amusing...im workin on my first grow and am hoping for 2-3g dry per cake...if i dont get that much i will b pretty dissapointed cuz from what ive read ud really hafta fuck somethin up to get that little lol and if i get way more i will be trippin for weeks! haha
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i want like 1,000,000,000 g per cake but...who the hell doesn't
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xbabyboy4021x said: lol this thread is pretty amusing...im workin on my first grow and am hoping for 2-3g dry per cake...if i dont get that much i will b pretty dissapointed cuz from what ive read ud really hafta fuck somethin up to get that little lol and if i get way more i will be trippin for weeks! haha
lol yah its amusing me as well man .. ppl here get mad if u outgrow them at all and start talking chit ! lol youll be fine , just stick to the tek and treat ur mushies well and ull get good results .. cheers and gl !
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um, we get it.
you had a good flush.
lol.
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: large_dose]
#8015507 - 02/12/08 10:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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large_dose said: um, we get it.
you had a good flush.
lol.
lmfao .. ty i know ... ive had a few .. now are you friend or foe ? sides must be chosen in the war of the cakes and nuetrals are just in the way of the shrapnel ! lol !
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I donno, i like cakes... just havent done em' since i switched over to grain.
Actually, seeing the pics of your cakes made me want to whip some up and do double stack cake bins again... just like fahster does em.
cakes can pull some weight, but its nothing compared to spawning to bulk.
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: large_dose]
#8015642 - 02/12/08 10:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The reason why Fahster gets so brilliant results from his cakes is that he uses isolates he created!
The reason Royal_Flush got good results is mainly because of luck. Don't get me wrong, it's nice for you to get good results, but it's not "normal".
You called my statement bullshit, because you had good results with 15 cakes, while my personal experience, with about 200 cakes, is different from that, because I had cakes that almost didn't produce any fruits at all, most likely because of bad genetics. This is something you'll have to learn to deal with, because sooner or later you'll have some cakes just like that.
The fact that you expected at least 7 gram dry from every flush when you started shows just why these threads are so superfluous. It would have been more likely for you to get rather smaller amounts off your cakes. Well, you've been lucky and got bigger. Good for you!
The problem is, that you decelerated your success as "the way it is", or at least called my post bullshit, after having grown 15 cakes. You better should have said, that so far, your experience is different from mine and that you got bigger yields but instead you just said:
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lmfao bullllllllchit .. ive been getting 10 to 12 dry grams off each cake and almost 19 off another and have the cake pics to back it up ! all on the first flushes ! it all depends on the strains ..just mist A LOT and give lots of fae .. cheers ..
The reason why you have the impression people are "against" you is simply that you're a little fast with your statements and you keep being very aggressive in what you say. On the one hand you keep telling that you're a Newbie yourself and on he other hand you state things as given facts, based on 15 cakes and three months of mushroom cultivation. I only do it for 2 years as well and there are SO many people in here that know a lot more about this topic than I do, but at least I won't tell other people, who obviously have more experience with growing, that their posts are bullshit, when I've done 15 cakes. This doesn't mean that you don't have the "right" to criticize what I post, but when you do, do it in appropriate way, without calling it "bullshit" and especially when you have done 15 cakes, because the logical consequence of this small amount of personal experience is, that it says nothing about the way it actually is. This is exactly the reason why people get information from this board and I think we, as members, (newbie or oldhand) should try to keep the infos in here correct, for people who are new to the whole thing tend to believe the first thing they read.
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: Fahkface]
#8016279 - 02/13/08 02:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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word ^
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Re: Expected Yield? [Re: large_dose]
#8016391 - 02/13/08 06:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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fahkface said it perfectly
royal flush you are the rookie here. you will learn soon enough
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