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special datura with tropanes need help with
    #8009973 - 02/11/08 06:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

brugmansia suaveoleons called toe

if i had 10 grams how much do i take without ayahuasca

i have read castenada and have the strength of meditative mind for datura and i know i can not take it how he took it without risk but those who know please tell me about this plant

im on a psychedelic budget and it is 20 dollars for 10 grams of this and i want carlos castenadas experience or the best i can get

thank you


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: seevoid]
    #8009998 - 02/11/08 06:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:whack:


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8010016 - 02/11/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

you will die.


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: seevoid]
    #8010018 - 02/11/08 06:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

That shits retarded at any dose go look it up on erowid.

For 6 bucks shipped you could get 10 HBWR and 10 yopo seeds. Then you have lsa and Bufotenine both essayer to control.

just wait till you can afford some caapi and and root bark.


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #8010039 - 02/11/08 06:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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MYSTIQUE said:
That shits retarded at any dose go look it up on erowid.

For 6 bucks shipped you could get 10 HBWR and 10 yopo seeds. Then you have lsa and Bufotenine both essayer to control.

just wait till you can afford some caapi and and root bark.





Erowid doesn't even have a dose on datura. I think that says something about it.


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: Shamanintraining]
    #8010520 - 02/11/08 07:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i always heard castaneda was full of shit anyway. supposedly everything he wrote was fictional.


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: azurite]
    #8010760 - 02/11/08 08:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah dude you can pick datura if you in the US when its in season tho i do love the stuff.


gathering of the vibes 07 datura





some old slavic woman's burgmansia she gave me.


in all honesty i suggest only using with aya brews to negate the negitive effects but if you really want pain then take half a flower. have alot of water and someone that can kick your ass in case you get rowdy


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: azurite]
    #8010909 - 02/11/08 09:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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azurite said:
i always heard castaneda was full of shit anyway. supposedly everything he wrote was fictional.




You heard correctly. He made up most or all of the shit that he wrote, it's been debunked repeatedly by specialists in all sorts of relevent disciplines.

Either that or he deliberately misconstrued the dosage, effects, and administration of many drugs. Which would also make him full of shit.


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: seevoid]
    #8010926 - 02/11/08 09:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I almost want to tell you to go ahead with your idea because the world is better off with less stupid people and you just use air and take up space which we could all have more of, but instead I'll just tell you your being stupid:mad:


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: Shnezbit]
    #8011288 - 02/11/08 10:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

aw dont be so mean and datura doesnt always kill even in ridiculous doses. I met someone that holds the record as far as i know for most datura with out dying he almost died tho, a lawn trash bag for leaves full of fresh picked flowers and leaves of florida burgmansia. i kinda know why that mofo still lives but still. i dont suggest it and i think he deserved to live thru all that pain death would of been a way to easy way out, i think anyone that takes that much in that manner should have to live that shit out.


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: thedudenj]
    #8012814 - 02/12/08 10:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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thedudenj said:
in all honesty i suggest only using with aya brews to negate the negitive effects but if you really want pain then take half a flower. have alot of water and someone that can kick your ass in case you get rowdy




I would like to try that, but doesnt the datura severely outlast the DMT?


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: thedudenj]
    #8012841 - 02/12/08 11:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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thedudenj said:
aw dont be so mean and datura doesnt always kill even in ridiculous doses. I met someone that holds the record as far as i know for most datura with out dying he almost died tho, a lawn trash bag for leaves full of fresh picked flowers and leaves of florida burgmansia. i kinda know why that mofo still lives but still. i dont suggest it and i think he deserved to live thru all that pain death would of been a way to easy way out, i think anyone that takes that much in that manner should have to live that shit out.




you will die and before you do you will have horrible hallucinations of dead babies and demons.


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8012861 - 02/12/08 11:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

dead babies and demons... sounds very dark


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: SaintDunsmere]
    #8012881 - 02/12/08 11:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

just eat some jimson weed and find out: hey i heard some guy ate like a load of it and survived, so it's super!

:stupid:


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: seevoid]
    #8012885 - 02/12/08 11:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Jeez, don't do datura - it's bad.


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8013338 - 02/12/08 01:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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you will die and before you do you will have horrible hallucinations of dead babies and demons.




way to imprint preconceived notions into other peoples minds...


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #8013358 - 02/12/08 01:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

better me than datura.


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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8013567 - 02/12/08 03:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

don't do datura. jenkem is where it's at.


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: special datura with tropanes need help with [Re: THEBats]
    #8013814 - 02/12/08 04:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well no the ayahuasca will out last and counter the negitive use only 1 or half a flower in the brew


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