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distgre1
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Mimosa hostilis in 4 months
#8009336 - 02/11/08 03:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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How fast does it grow? If I plant a few seeds, can I get enough DMT in one summer? Thanks
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felixhigh
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: distgre1]
#8009715 - 02/11/08 05:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, you have to be patient, and you need room, you´re growing trees. Yet this is your best bet, no Phalaris or Psychotria will give a better yield in the same time.
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: felixhigh]
#8009751 - 02/11/08 05:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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my mimosas are strictly ornamental for that reason
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distgre1
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: casgoodie]
#8009790 - 02/11/08 05:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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hmm, what plant would produce enough DMT in one summer?
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months *DELETED* [Re: distgre1]
#8009801 - 02/11/08 05:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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distgre1
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: Gr33nday43]
#8009821 - 02/11/08 05:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gr33nday43 said: imo, unless you have plants, you won't get enough dmt in one year to be worth it.
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: casgoodie]
#8009846 - 02/11/08 05:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Grow acacia's they are hardy in alot more places, Mimosa's need to be a pretty good sized tree before they're any good, unless you have room for a wine barrel in your house,good luck. Psychotria's are pretty low in content, but they do make a pretty good houseplant and you can continually harvest leaves. Phalaris brachystachys is rumored to have very high alkaloidal content, unlike aquatica and the rest, you might also want to check that out, I am
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: distgre1]
#8009864 - 02/11/08 05:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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distgre1 said: hmm, what plant would produce enough DMT in one summer?
None. This is not Cannabis.
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: ngnyus]
#8009871 - 02/11/08 05:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I live in Montreal... Psychotria would die! lol Would you think they would be able to produce anything in a 4 month period?
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imachavel
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: felixhigh]
#8009985 - 02/11/08 06:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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shit, seriously? i heard phalaris grass was way stronger. so you're telling me, that mimosa hostilis rootbark is loaded with dmt? way more so in the time it takes for one of those entire trees to grow roots large enough to dig up around them and scrape off the bark and make an extract that there'd be more dmt in that than in the phalaris grass you could grow in all those years? even if you had one seed..... and planted it, you could get one hundred seeds from that one piece of grass, i don't know.... at that rate i still think the phalaris grass would win.
btw, those trees have a weird growth rate, they grow really slow at first, then grow faster and faster the larger they get, but still i'm pretty sure they grow slow as shit all the way up, at least as slow as any normal tree would grow. I guess it makes sense that they grow slow, they're apparently a tree that resists drought, so maybe they come from a drier more desert like climate and when they're young grow really slow to preserve water, an interesting plant, really, i don't understand it, oh well......
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: imachavel]
#8010217 - 02/11/08 07:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You might take a look at Desmanthus Illinoensis--Hardy to zone 4 or 5 and is a perennial and easy to grow. but you get a better the root bark harvest after 2 or 3 years of growth still longer than you are looking for. How about a 10 by 10 of Phalaris aquatica--mow and fertilze for as long as possible.
definitely checking out Phalaris brachystachys tho!
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: imachavel]
#8010245 - 02/11/08 07:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you insist on growing outside go with some form of phalaris, but pray you harvest at one of their bump times, which change from year to year and with each climate, will desmanthus leptolobus make it through the winter there? I highly doubt you will get any kind of good harvest in 4 month's with ANY dmt containing plant, but good luck BTW, I never suggested growing Psycotria outside, only as a houseplant.
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: ngnyus]
#8010384 - 02/11/08 07:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Brachystachy's  I grew it a few years ago but not enough to harvest and test. I wanna get shitloads of seeds. another thing to test would be Phragmites Australis root. 30 grams makes a threshold Aya dose I read. The shit grows all over on the sides of the roads. Very tall grass with sometimes purple tips where the seeds are. I grew some Desmanthus I. before and got around 8 grams of dried root from growing it 4 to 6 months or so from one plant. It was a pain in the ass to keep alive and died on me. I have Acacia Maidenii and Mimosa Hostilis plants about a year old and 4 foot high or so for the tallest. They are in 3 gallon pots and will be going outside this year. After this year I guarantee they got a few doses worth per plant but I am betting they got at least a dose per plant now as is. they are very easy to grow too. I didn't even use Legume innoculant for Nitrogen fixing bacteria but yet they are very hardy and doing well I have some viridis that are a year old or so that are still tiny ass little babies WTF lol. Must be the zero humidity
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: cpw1971]
#8011162 - 02/11/08 10:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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hey cpw how much of the Phragmites Australis do you think you would need to extract a few doses?
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: Artnotwar]
#8011185 - 02/11/08 10:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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why not just buy a bunch, its cheap an effective
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: Artnotwar]
#8011207 - 02/11/08 10:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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well not really sure I doubt it would be worth the trouble of extracting and defatting. It would be better to do Aya style
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Re: Mimosa hostilis in 4 months [Re: cpw1971]
#8011226 - 02/11/08 10:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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shit, seriously? i heard phalaris grass was way stronger. so you're telling me, that mimosa hostilis rootbark is loaded with dmt? way more so in the time it takes for one of those entire trees to grow roots large enough to dig up around them and scrape off the bark and make an extract that there'd be more dmt in that than in the phalaris grass you could grow in all those years?
hell no.
Look into Arundo donax (Giant River Reed), Desmanthus illinoensis (Bundle Flower) and def. Phalaris Grass (Reed Canary Grass)
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