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Anonymous vs Scientology
    #8008987 - 02/11/08 02:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Scientologist:


Anonymous:


Which one of these groups is the creepiest?


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #8009080 - 02/11/08 02:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Tough question :tongue:


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #8009402 - 02/11/08 04:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well, one is talking about helping people, and the other is talking about destroying a group of people....

granted, cruise is an extreme egotist, but beyond that I dont get what was so "creepy" about it. maybe there was something at the end, because it wouldnt load up all the way.
also, why does everyone think that Tom Cruise = scientology.


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #8009411 - 02/11/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

His behavior in that video IS creepy... the dude has the Messianic complex :eek:


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #8009412 - 02/11/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

lol, there was a list of a couple thousand email passwords given out last night, so i was plastering that video (the second one) over people's myspace pages.


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: truekimbo2]
    #8009794 - 02/11/08 05:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

oh yeah, also many people have noticed that the scientology raid yesterday got no national media attention, even though it was worldwide and in most major US cities at the same time.

next one is march 15th if you guys want to go.


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #8011084 - 02/11/08 09:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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well, one is talking about helping people, and the other is talking about destroying a group of people....




Which one is which? I have a feeling you mean the scientologists are about helping people but the don't seem very helpful unless you pay for it and don't say anything bad about it.

There's a lot of stuff on the net about it, it's hard to know what's true though...

The censorship thing is pretty clear though, search google news for 'scientology lawsuit' gives 1200 hits, 104 in 2004-2005! Lawyers must love them.

Seemed fitting when their website was DDOS'd after them getting all those youtube vids and comments removed.

And lol at the people in the EFG masks! We need an EFG smilie!


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: jizmaster]
    #8011164 - 02/11/08 10:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

anonymous is small time and deserves no respect.
what harm has scientology done that is any worse than the Christian reign of terror, the crusades, the inquisitions, witch burning, etc...?
why not go after religions that unjustly persecute women and mutilate their genitalia?
or the grown bearded men who spend time kissing a brick wall rather than bettering their violent environment?
all religions encourage ignorance, but some have ruined more lives than others. pick your battles wisely, because they don't really mean anything anyway.



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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: bodhiman777]
    #8011172 - 02/11/08 10:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

all religions should be destroyed


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: bodhiman777]
    #8011177 - 02/11/08 10:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The fact that other religions have "done worse" doesn't mean that we can't talk about what Scientology does. You don't have to directly persecute in order to have bad intentions.
Besides, a religion invented nowadays won't have much chances to succeed if it was to use such tactics. The seats for that are already taken and slowly fading away, leaving room for a new kind of indoctrination. I am not saying that I an sure that Scientology does that, but it is a possibility. Hence it's open for discussion. :hehehe:


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: Atheist]
    #8011179 - 02/11/08 10:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Atheist said:
all religions should be destroyed




You know... some religious folks think the same way about those who don't believe in god?
What's the difference between your mentality and theirs?


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #8011180 - 02/11/08 10:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

theirs is completely wrong.


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: Atheist]
    #8011183 - 02/11/08 10:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ok then


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #8011205 - 02/11/08 10:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

YawningAnus said:
granted, cruise is an extreme egotist, but beyond that I dont get what was so "creepy" about it.




An actor rambling about his for-profit religion being the authority on the mind seems pretty creepy to me... but maybe it is just his face. :shrug:


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: bodhiman777]
    #8011210 - 02/11/08 10:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

bodhiman777 said:
anonymous is small time and deserves no respect.
what harm has scientology done that is any worse than the Christian reign of terror, the crusades, the inquisitions, witch burning, etc...?
why not go after religions that unjustly persecute women and mutilate their genitalia?
  or the grown bearded men who spend time kissing a brick wall rather than bettering their violent environment?
  all religions encourage ignorance, but some have ruined more lives than others. pick your battles wisely, because they don't really mean anything anyway.






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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #8011918 - 02/12/08 02:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

so who do you think is "winning" this battle?

a group of people that hide their identity and make threats at people for their religious beliefs?
scientology infiltrated the US govt better than anyone else... ever.

if there is one thing that sticks out from all the scientology headline news... wouldnt it be obvious that:
1) they are designed, and compelled to be a self preserving entity
2) they are really fucking good at it.

people always want to talk about how litigious scientology is... but how many lawsuits were aimed at them? how many of those lawsuits were merely in defense, or preemptive?

it just seems to me that this group has had to lower themselves to what they believe the scientologists level is: antagonizing, threatening, determined, secretive cult hellbent on destroying an evil for what they believe to be the greatest good for all mankind.


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #8012014 - 02/12/08 04:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Careful what you say, guys. You just might get sued.

Seriously, though, what we have here is an obvious cult turned corporation and given official religion status, which I would say is quite fucking scary. Just because they haven't had any crusades (yet) doesn't mean they should be ignored.


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #8012096 - 02/12/08 05:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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it just seems to me that this group has had to lower themselves to what they believe the scientologists level is: antagonizing, threatening, determined, secretive cult hellbent on destroying an evil for what they believe to be the greatest good for all mankind.




i believe that point was brought up in the video, in fact i think anon encourages that point of view.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=255_1202738942

(i can't believe i still can't i figure out how to embed videos on here...)


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #8012121 - 02/12/08 06:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

YawningAnus, you have stated that you are not a member of the Cult of $cientology, (or Church of Scientology, if you prefer) so why do you spend so much time defending them? You seem fairly well educated on the workings of the cult, their history, and so forth... and yet you defend them? I don't understand why, unless you are a member? You seem to be on a crusade to show how good and righteous the cult is rather than simply correcting misinformation. If you are not a member, then why?


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Re: Anonymous vs Scientology [Re: Seuss]
    #8013248 - 02/12/08 01:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

so when someone knows a lot about a certain topic in here, they shouldnt chime in?

see, you are certain that anyone that defends, or at least doesnt shout about how much they hate them, is a member.
If I was a member, I wouldnt try to hide it. it isnt something to be ashamed of, IMO. I just dont agree with a lot of the doctrine.

but I spent a lot of time with scientologists... years. and the widely held attitude towards them is based off of mob mentality.

I dont see really where I am defending them... all I am doing is adding some logic into this argument.
"ohhh tom cruise talking.... scary!".
"they sue people!"
"burn the witches!"

that entire video is nothing more than Tom Cruise talking about a scientology course. it isnt a recruiting video... and chances are, it was shown probably once at some quarterly meeting.

I mean, you guys are sitting here ignoring half of the story to rationalize and justify your hatred of them.
Imagine that you are in school and about half the people in school makes a serious effort to fuck with you... and then one day you snap and just start beating the shit out of all these people... it is kind of like looking at that kid and saying "OMG, what a bully".

do you deny that there are lots of people out there who wish immense malicious intent upon scientology and its members? go look up the history and progression of scientology in society and see who threw the first rock.
if you would just let them go about life like any other religion, you wouldnt see such a backlash from it.


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