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Tobacco Cultivation and Curing
    #8008758 - 02/11/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Me and some other shroomites are trying to grow and cure some tobacco...

So PLEASE- Don't post any fucking vendors!

I don't want this thread closed like the last one...

Ya want a vendor, PM somebody...do not post it in the thread!

No vendor discussion in the E.G.!!! :devilguy:


Tobacco Cultivarion and Curing-

I really enjoyed growing and curing tobacco last year...although I could have done a better job curing.

This year I'm going to make an interesting blend of American and World Tobaccos.

I'm going to have the following-

Three "Bonanza" Tobacco plants
Three "Kelly Burley" Tobacco plants
Three Turkish/Oriental-"Samsun" plants
One Perique Tobacco plant


I found a somebody in TN, that will ship plants at the begining of the growing season, so I don't have to grow from seed! Hooray!



Growing Tobacco-

Allow half the plants to flower. Cut off the other half of the plants buds as they appear for bigger leafs.


????????????Soil Requirments??????????????????


Curing Tobacco-

As the leafs turn yellow pick them off, staring at the bottom and working your way up, until all the leafs are picked.

After picking each leaf, place it into a well ventilated outdoor hardwood chest, full of freshly cut cedar sticks. After the last leafs are harvest and placed into the chest, wait Seven weeks.

Once Seven weeks have passed, remove the leafs from the box and “Hand-tie” them, with natural rope. Spray the “Hand-tied” leafs with water and gently shake them out.

After the leafs are washed, hang the “Hand-tied” leafs next to small, smoky hardwood fire, to smoke for Seven hours.

Hang the leafs outdoors in an Area sheltered from the rain, for Seven days.

Cut the large central vein out of each leaf.  Roll every Seven leaf halves into a bundle. Place the bundle into a wooden box with freshly chopped Vanilla pods.

Place the box into a bag, seal the bag and bury it for Seven weeks.

After Seven weeks dig the bags and box back up. Remove and discard the chopped Vanilla pods. The tobacco is now ready to smoke. Store in an air-tight glass jar.




Tips are welcomed!







"Bonanza" Bright leaf, "Kelly Burley", Turkish/Oriental-"Samsun" and Perique Tobacco should blend together nicely.

I'm making a bunch of cigs!

Last year my home grown was 100 times better than any commercial tobacco product I've ever smoked.

You get that goooood, woody tobacco flavor.


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    #8008790 - 02/11/08 01:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8011245 - 02/11/08 10:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I wanna build a curing chamber.
I would install thermostatically controlled heat though. you really gotta sweat the leaves good.

also if I had that and grew enough tobacco I would get an electric cig roller. bye bye trips to the store for high priced smokes that are loaded with shitty chems


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: cpw1971]
    #8011269 - 02/11/08 10:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I roll my own with a small roller.

Filters can be bought at the store.

I grow my own tobacco each spring...

Just a few plants last me a whole year...but I don't smoke much.

Man, does it taste great tho...

I don't know how people actually smoke commercial cigarettes...

They make me fuckin' sick.  :thumbdown:


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: FarFromHere]
    #8011684 - 02/12/08 01:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

good luck. i guess you've done it before


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: casgoodie]
    #8012550 - 02/12/08 09:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

growing tobacco is actually VERY rewarding.

in a 8mx1m retangle you can grow say 8 plants (which in reality you can grow more in that space), that's 800gr of tobacco, enough for almost 300 cigarretes, 15 packs. and that's aiming low, i've heard of growing enough for 3.000 cigarretes in the same space.

and it's a very forgiving plant, rather easy to grow, and produce a lot of seed.


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: brshroomer]
    #8012675 - 02/12/08 10:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

how's the taste compared to american spirits?


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #8013109 - 02/12/08 12:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Alot better!

I personally don't like spirits that much...compared to the home grown.

Tho they are the only commericial ciggerette I buy.

They do seem to be a pretty good company.



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in a 8mx1m retangle you can grow say 8 plants (which in reality you can grow more in that space), that's 800gr of tobacco, enough for almost 300 cigarretes, 15 packs. and that's aiming low, i've heard of growing enough for 3.000 cigarretes in the same space.

and it's a very forgiving plant, rather easy to grow, and produce a lot of seed





Exactly! :thumbup:


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: FarFromHere]
    #8013892 - 02/12/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i dont quite understand what the big deal is about spirits, every time i've tried them they never really pulled when you took a drag which was just annoying.


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: doitagain]
    #8013963 - 02/12/08 05:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

roll your own then, the major appeal of american spirt is your buying tobaccy, not pressed stem laced with the worlds finest drain opener


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8014310 - 02/12/08 06:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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i dont quite understand what the big deal is about spirits, every time i've tried them they never really pulled when you took a drag which was just annoying.





Do you pack your spirits? Your not supposed to...

Roll the cigarettes between your fingers to loosen the tobacco.


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: FarFromHere]
    #8015030 - 02/12/08 09:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

so wait, do you want the flowers or the leaves with tobacco

ive been considering some rustica myself as an occasional indulgence


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8015058 - 02/12/08 09:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I heard that cutting buds (not allowing plants to flower) and allowing plants to flower produces different flavors and sizing in the leafs, as well as different psychoactive chemical make-ups...

So, I'm nippin' half the buds and allowing half to flower...

Supposedly plants which do not flower have bigger leafs and plants that do flower have higher nicotine.




Can anybody tell me about the soil requirments for tobacco?

I'm also looking for organic fertilizers...does anybody know of any for tobacco?


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: FarFromHere]
    #8015314 - 02/12/08 09:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

any variety tips for someone looking to grow
a- a few tobacco plants for recreational cigarette smoking

b- a few tobacco plants to use for rolling blunts

i can't wait to try growing this summer

how long is it from seed to harvest?

all help appreciated, thanks guys(and gals)


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: FarFromHere]
    #8015332 - 02/12/08 09:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Soil requirements is no real issue, the soil here is basically clay with a bit of top soil. Just add a small amount of wood ash if you have trouble.

I heard you are meant to leaf spirits out for a week to let them dry. I love american spirit - but it is nearly impossible to get it here :frown:

How do you cure your 'backy FFH? I have tried but i kept getting white mold, i aint smokin dat.


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8015657 - 02/12/08 11:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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How do you cure your 'backy FFH?





It's in my first post. :bitchsmack:


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Curing Tobacco-

As the leafs turn yellow pick them off, staring at the bottom and working your way up, until all the leafs are picked.

After picking each leaf, place it into a well ventilated outdoor hardwood chest, full of freshly cut cedar sticks. After the last leafs are harvest and placed into the chest, wait Seven weeks.






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a few tobacco plants for recreational cigarette smoking





Follow my guide when I'm done.



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how long is it from seed to harvest





From seedling to harvest it's like 90 days.


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: FarFromHere]
    #8016732 - 02/13/08 09:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well, 90 days?!

you may grow it as soon as the seeds rippen in the pods, which would make for a year of growth.

of course you can start later, but you'll have smaller plants.

shitty soil=shitty plants, but they'll grow and flower if that's what you aim for. the plants i'm currently growing are the seeds from plants that were in the most compacted soil possible.

better soil=greener, larger, more potent leaves.

best thing you can do if you never treated the soil in any way is to make a dead cover with grass clippings, don't water it, let the rain water wet the plot. you'll see after a week or two that the dirt will be way softer.


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: brshroomer]
    #8017023 - 02/13/08 10:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't want them to set seed...I'm gonna clip the buds on most of them and not even allow them to flower...

I think 90 days is about right from seedling to harvest.


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: FarFromHere]
    #8017109 - 02/13/08 11:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

when you're planting and when you're harvesting?(early spring sowing right?)


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: brshroomer]
    #8019797 - 02/13/08 09:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Right....early spring is when I'm planting seedlings....

And then harvest as the leafs turn yellow, starting at the bottom and working my way up.


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8020418 - 02/13/08 11:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm...probably.


I'd hang it up in there for 7 weeks and then smoke the leafs and stuff...


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: FarFromHere]
    #8033364 - 02/17/08 12:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

has anyone tried making their own cigars? cuz i'm definitely gonna do it up this summer. wonder what the parents will think...


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: Molasses]
    #8033381 - 02/17/08 12:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

you need specified curing conditions for tobacco.


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8035158 - 02/17/08 03:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Doesn't mean it can't be done.
I know how the farmers around here(KY) cure their tobacco by asking around..and honestly...I wouldn't called it specified curing conditions.





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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8035713 - 02/17/08 10:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I made a few cigars, they were really easy to make but i cured the tobaco bad and it tasted nasty.


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8035814 - 02/17/08 10:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I am growing Kentucky burley and rustica for the first time this year. You curing and flavoring methods are interesting. I will let you guys know how mine turns out.

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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8036558 - 02/18/08 02:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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They hang up the tobacco in huge barns for months until it starts getting about under 45-50 degrees constantly. Then they age it for years. They have to make sure that the humidity and everything is in check though.




I'm talking about curing in a much smaller time frame :P


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: flavoraid]
    #8036562 - 02/18/08 02:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

MOD EDIT: No non sponsor links Please!!


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    #8037188 - 02/18/08 09:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'd remove that, I got a warning for posting the same link by mistake.


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8037352 - 02/18/08 10:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:frown:

I tried to warn you.

I hope you didn't link that because I did, that would make me guilty through association.

basically you want to maintain 54 celcius and humidity.

I don't plan to build one anymore because I quit smoking, but I might make a drawn up tek and post it if there is interest.


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8042273 - 02/19/08 10:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

dude, copy and paste posts are useless...

if YOU could find it then other people CAN TOO. and basically you add a shitload of useless info to the thread when doing that. things you could easily avoid by writing some yourself.

newbies: you don't need a tek. curing = leaving in a room with high humidity and high temperature, the tobacco will sweat bad smells out. just be careful as it absorbs smell easily(plastic container = plastic smell)


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Re: Tobacco Cultivation and Curing [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8043322 - 02/19/08 03:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

so for a good tasting tobaccy or cigs or cigars, how long would someone need to cure, and which process is best?


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