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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: NiamhNyx]
#8010229 - 02/11/08 07:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was never much for date rape. I just want to lose it so then I don't have it if that makes sense. That way I won't have the mindset 'oh I am a virgin' instead I'll just be like whatever.
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the free thinker
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i wish i had some pussy for my dick right now...
hey, i feel you man. i didnt lose it till i was 20. im 22 now. i had a relationship with this girl (who i still think about) for a year. we broke up, and since then ive felt crippled to getting another girl. ive kissed girls and made out and stuff but nothing involving my dick. 
its hard, but dont worry. it will happen.
and the hooker comment wasnt THAT out of line. if you really wanted to, you could go do it right now - with a hooker.
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Naw, you're not hopeless. 20 is still pretty young. You'll get some nay soon.
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You could try craigslist?
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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: NiamhNyx]
#8011195 - 02/11/08 10:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Once I lost my virginity, I realized how lame it was that I was so concerned about getting rid of it in the first place. It was a disappointment. If I could do it all over again, I'd wait until I found a girl that I truly respected and had some sort of connection with instead of sticking my dick in the first opening I saw.
Funny, because when I lost my virginity I realized how pointless it had been to wait.
If I had waited - which, considering my gender, seems unlikely - I might have come to the same conclusion. 
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But it doesn't matter, because losing your virginity isn't a big deal.
'zactly.
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I felt the same way until it pretty much just happened when I was 19, but it really doesn't matter. Yeah, I suppose it's nice to not always be reminded that your a virgin, but it can be a double edged sword as well. That way, you don't know what your missing... and if your shy like me that can be a good thing. Maybe you'll get lucky and meet someone, but that's not going to change everything, so then eventually your going to be single, and in the same position again except you want it even more because you know how nice it can be.
Of course there's several other possibilities, but really... losing your virginity doesn't change much. It almost seems like a pointless label at times. Love and relationships have meaning, but sex... I don't know about that so much. As far as everything goes, I certainly wouldn't say it's very important. And if it is, then you could probably find some better priorities.
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learning how to get sex is harder than learning how to have sex definately.
looking back it was so stupid.
it has everything to do with confidencei iguess thats the word, but when people told me that i figured I had to change who i was -- not the case. and know what you want. and know when the time is to make a move, because unless they are the type who pray on innocent shy boys, they will not make the first move. dont force anything, but let them know you are down if they are down.
and theres many fish in the sea, regardless of who you are or what you look like or what kinda game you spit. Meet more people, increase your odds. dont be afraid of being a virgin either, 20 isnt that old. Wear that shit with pride, but not too much or you will be turning down ass left and right.
its cool to get experience I guess, but honestly I wish i didnt lose my virginity to who I did. and after I did, and I could fuck whenever I wanted, i prefered to rub one off anyways, much faster and easier.
dont stress
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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: tak]
#8011861 - 02/12/08 02:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I had the same problem....for me it was realizing that failure isn't that big of a deal...
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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: NiamhNyx]
#8014802 - 02/12/08 08:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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NiamhNyx said: Oh lord, and please disregard the shite advise of the poster immediately above me. "The Game" is bullshit.
This is not true.
The game is the game.
Some poeple play the game, some don't. Anyway, the game is geared towards guys trying to pick up sexy sexygirls. These girls constantly have dicks trying to pick them up with cheesy pick-up lines and stuff. Since these kinds of girls usually can get any guy they want.. they have a checklist and just tick off the losers they don't want.
So what do they want? They want a guy that doesn't seem to want them but plays games with them. They want a challenge.
With all that being said, the game IS bullshit. But that's the way it goes in the sexy hard-to-get world.
If you want a girl based on her personality, you could have a girl tomorrow. Unfortunately we live in a materialistic fuckin world. And this is why the OP hasn't gotten laid is because his standards are too high and the higher your standards go (if you really have nothing to offer but yourself and if you're not Leonardo in Titanic...) then you will not get any.
So the moral of the story is: learn to play the game if you keep looking at those sexy girls or just go for the girl that likes you and relax.
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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: Ginseng1]
#8015146 - 02/12/08 09:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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So what you're saying is that sexy girls are mindless, shallow bitches and that intelligent girls with interesting personalities look like dogs? Puhleease.
Congratulations for reinforcing my position on how fucking clueless a guy has to be to buy into this "game" bullshit.
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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: NiamhNyx]
#8015160 - 02/12/08 09:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think you're being kind of closed minded as to what kind of world "The Game" operates in NiamhNyx.
Clubs, bars, etc. in those scenes - stereotypes hold true, odds are hot = dumb.
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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: memes]
#8015262 - 02/12/08 09:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't think close minded is the term you're looking for.
I realize that "the game" is a club scene thing. I think it's a total load of bullshit because I think the club scene is a total load of bullshit. A bunch of manipulative morons trying desperately to fuck the best commodity on the market is not my idea of a good time, nor a very interesting way to have an active and exciting sex life. A person can be as promiscuous as they like without being a total dickbag about it.
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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: NiamhNyx]
#8015750 - 02/12/08 11:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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NiamhNyx said: I don't think close minded is the term you're looking for.
I realize that "the game" is a club scene thing. I think it's a total load of bullshit because I think the club scene is a total load of bullshit. A bunch of manipulative morons trying desperately to fuck the best commodity on the market is not my idea of a good time, nor a very interesting way to have an active and exciting sex life. A person can be as promiscuous as they like without being a total dickbag about it.
You frequently use terms like "i think" and "my idea of" in your post as if your opinion is the only one that matters. If you think "the game" and it's subculture serve no purpose that's fine - but to actively petition your opinion on others who may be able to benefit from some of the aspects of that way of life seems selfish and counterproductive to me.
The foundation to any "game" of intimate attraction is a solid base of self-confidence. It just so happens the most common obstacle for guys who are shy around girls (a.k.a. virgins) is a lack of self-confidence when conversing/interacting with an attractive female. It also just so happens that the first development in "the game" is builiing self confidence - which is exactly what the OP needs.
So, is the advice to the OP of dipping lightly into a few of the sectors of this subculture such a terrible idea? Does your negative opinion of it matter so much that a guy who (might I add) is asking for help shouldn't even bother to consider another poster's opinions?
I'm sure (at some point in this thread) you've offered your opinion on the matter, this is another opinion - although contrary to your own - that may serve a purpose.
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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: memes]
#8015778 - 02/12/08 11:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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So basically what you're saying is that she gave her opinion once and now she shouldn't speak her mind about "the game"? But you can disagree with her, only that she shouldn't disagree with you?  This is a free forum, you are not in the position to make this kid of judgment so I don't see the purpose of your complains.  Also... you are telling her that her advice can be detrimental to the OP?  The OP is looking for advice how to be around women, and a female advice is refused because men know better?
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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: NiamhNyx]
#8015782 - 02/12/08 11:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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NiamhNyx said: So what you're saying is that sexy girls are mindless, shallow bitches and that intelligent girls with interesting personalities look like dogs? Puhleease.
Congratulations for reinforcing my position on how fucking clueless a guy has to be to buy into this "game" bullshit.
No not atall. I wasn't trying to generalize. But as far as certain age groups go and certain scenes, it is safe to generalize because thats the way it is because it's real. I mean, if you wan't to play it safe. Not all sexy girls are shallow bitches. Not all sexy guys are shallow pricks. But you tell me, how would you approach somebody that you wanted so bad but afraid to mess it up? Think about that one...
And seriously, if a guy came up to you and used his "game".. like true game.. you could easily fall for him. This is life. It's like.. perfect for everybody aslong as they just know what to do.
This includes money, happiness, fun times, jokes times, everything. If you know how to do life, you just win. Period.
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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: Ginseng1]
#8015805 - 02/13/08 12:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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One more thingy... For every subject, every paradigm.. there are always basic guidelines and things to know.
There are guidelines for everything. And they are only guidlenes. You don't have to live by them, but they sure as hell can get you places. Years of experience and understanding will usually end up as guidelines but never ever 100% definitive of anything. Because nothing is static.
You don't hope to score by walking blindly into situations you gotta have some basic understanding of human sociology and gender roles and shit. The "game" is just shitty word to describe what humans beings have been playing ever since who knows when?
Night guys!
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Yes, my goal is to get my dick wet from a cool girl.
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NiamhNyx
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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: Ginseng1]
#8015894 - 02/13/08 12:22 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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meams said:
You frequently use terms like "i think" and "my idea of" in your post as if your opinion is the only one that matters.
The whole point of saying "I think" "my idea of" "my opinion" is to make quite clear that the speaker's views are thier own and that they don't pretend to represent anyone other than themselves. So this criticism is completely ludicrous.
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Ginseng1 said: But you tell me, how would you approach somebody that you wanted so bad but afraid to mess it up? Think about that one...
Well, if you care to check a few threads down on the list, I started a thread about this very issue in my own life. How's a person supposed to approach someone who's so cute they make you nervous? I certainly am not gonna walk up to the guy and say "I'm wearing two different colognes (or perfumes) would you smell my wrists and tell me which you like better?" pfft. That's just silly. (And I got it off the link to "the game" website an earlier poster put up.) No. I'm going to walk up to the guy and tell him that I think it's silly I've been too shy to talk to him and that I think he's cute. Simple, straight forward, sincere, and casual. That's sexy.
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And seriously, if a guy came up to you and used his "game".. like true game.. you could easily fall for him. This is life. It's like.. perfect for everybody aslong as they just know what to do.
I can spot a bullshitter from a mile away. Just the other night I was the observant momma bear to a naive younger girl who was being played by a cheeseball at the bar. I told her what he was doing, and she said "Yeah, I wasn't sure but you're right. I'm definitly not going home with him." So no, I never have and I never will fall for a guy using his "true game." I don't play guys, and I don't let myself get played. It's just not how I roll.
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Re: Hopeless Virgin... [Re: memes]
#8015951 - 02/13/08 12:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have to admit, Pick-up Artist "techniques" are a good way to pick up a specific type of girl...
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MushmanTheManic
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I should also mention that I know some of the top (at least they consider themselves the top ) Pick-up Artists in Chicago... just too brag.
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