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Seraph in Blue
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Cartoon land? Or BS?
#8007097 - 02/10/08 11:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I had an argument with a friend tonight over his description of a mushroom trip and its legitimacy. I called bullshit because he described being in a cartoon land and everything around him looking exactly like a cartoon drawing. Now I know everyone has different experiences, but it's true that these psychedelics have characteristic effects on most people that cannot be disputed. The amount of experience I have under my belt with mushrooms coupled with the number of people I've talked to about them leads me to believe that his cartoon land experience is bullshit.
I've had some very very intense, indescribeable trips and although with LSD and RC's there does tend to be some fleeting cartoony visuals, they never really are in 2D or actually cartoon like at all.
So what do you all think? BS? Has anyone else been in a very decidedly cartoon-ish land during a mushroom trip? To me, this description is unfair because when I'm in my "shroomiverse" it's much more beautiful and almost 4-D, not some 2-d cartoon land, and people ignorant of mushrooms will often believe that this is what a trip is like.
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OneMoreRobot3021



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Why would you tell anyone their mushroom experience was "bullshit" based on the content of your own experience? Every brain is a unique creature. Every person experiences EVERYTHING, however commonly, wildly different from every other human being. Perhaps you felt he was exaggerating, fine, but I wouldn't be so quick to say that someone's interpretation of such an overwhelming experience would be "bullshit." We all perceive and interpret things in our own way.
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BoulderBoomer
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I think its very much open to that person's interpretation. I have never visually experienced cartoon land when tripping, but mentally and physically I have:
I was coming up on a dose, and started running with my friend down a hiking trail. We started jumping over logs and rocks as we were running, and it felt distinctly like a level in mario brothers. So while I didn't literally see video game art or anything, it was still pretty amazing.
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notapillow
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not bs at all
iv been there
on LSD mind you. but i was there. it was like waking life very much. tho at the time i was so scatter brained i could not even remember what that movie was.
i also thought i had left the planet somehow. or that i had come to some intersteller vibration cerimony wich i guess in retrospect was kinda true
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daft crunk
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Re: Cartoon land? Or BS? [Re: notapillow]
#8007154 - 02/10/08 11:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ive been in a cartoon land, but it was closed eye and from weed. it was super vivid. no joke, i thought closed eye visuals from weed was made up until this happened. i had cartoonish parts of an open eye lsd trip; i can see how it could happen
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BoulderBoomer
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Re: Cartoon land? Or BS? [Re: daft crunk]
#8007175 - 02/10/08 11:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ah that reminds me of a time I smoked hash at a bar in Spain. I was staring at this grafitti on the walls, and slowly saw it form into various looney toons characters. Thats never happened again though.
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clover606
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Re: Cartoon land? Or BS? [Re: daft crunk]
#8007177 - 02/10/08 11:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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my last acid trip was very cartoon like in ways.
-------------------- grassman said: I remember being in DARE when i was much younger and some of the stories they would tell you are not only ridiculous, but completely untrue. One story was that a woman was on LSD and thought her infant was a turkey so she baked it in the oven. Now I look back and think thats hilarious, but at the time I guess it scared me.
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Re: Cartoon land? Or BS? [Re: clover606]
#8007231 - 02/11/08 12:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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cartoon land type trips are common i have been there and written about it from salvia several times, certainly possible with weed and with acid/shrooms.
checking the legitimacy of the guy's trip seems a bit small-town-ish, like the village mentality that leads to witch detection. maybe you are already there but don't know it!
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pong
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Quote:
Seraph in Blue said: I had an argument with a friend tonight over his description of a mushroom trip and its legitimacy. I called bullshit because he described being in a cartoon land and everything around him looking exactly like a cartoon drawing. Now I know everyone has different experiences, but it's true that these psychedelics have characteristic effects on most people that cannot be disputed. The amount of experience I have under my belt with mushrooms coupled with the number of people I've talked to about them leads me to believe that his cartoon land experience is bullshit.
I've had some very very intense, indescribeable trips and although with LSD and RC's there does tend to be some fleeting cartoony visuals, they never really are in 2D or actually cartoon like at all.
So what do you all think? BS? Has anyone else been in a very decidedly cartoon-ish land during a mushroom trip? To me, this description is unfair because when I'm in my "shroomiverse" it's much more beautiful and almost 4-D, not some 2-d cartoon land, and people ignorant of mushrooms will often believe that this is what a trip is like.
not BS. i get cartoony effects from the mushrooms sometimes, even from weed when i first got really high.
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BoulderBoomer
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Re: Cartoon land? Or BS? [Re: pong]
#8007250 - 02/11/08 12:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pong, I really like the photo in your sig.
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Re: Cartoon land? Or BS? [Re: pong]
#8007259 - 02/11/08 12:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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just keep in mind its impossible to fully communicate anything to anyone. so its impossible to completely understand someone. especially trying to describe an experience. words are just symbols.
except for those rare telepathic experiences of "understanding."
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SlashOZ
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-------------------- "Life sucks but in this really beautiful way" - Axl Rose "Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS "When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi "Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson. "Don't question my reality." - Me (as far as I know)
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creekfreek
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The last time I shroomed,my girlfriend and I were at a party with a bunch of people. She,at one point saw peoples faces as skulls. I have heard of others seeing skulls also, but I personally have never seen them myyself. So dont dis-believe your friend, just because it never happened to you.
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pong
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yeah, i love that pic too. i dont know but it just makes me happy. guess where its taken!!
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Re: Cartoon land? Or BS? [Re: pong]
#8007294 - 02/11/08 12:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol thats just wonderful if you eat amanita and prepare them right you can lol
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Re: Cartoon land? Or BS? [Re: pong]
#8007300 - 02/11/08 12:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wouldn't call BS. I've had some pretty hard trips, and never seen elves jumping out of the TV or anything, but on a mild night, I was laying in my bed while a color changing lamp was changing the colors of my room. I started laughing because I realized my mind had been of on a very cartoonish experience. The color of redish/orange appeared and I thought I was running down a road with other toons in a cartoon setting. It was a total mind trip. I've seen enough hardcore visuals to agree that someone could easily be submersed in a total cartoonish experience.
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Cubie
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OneMoreRobot3021 said: Why would you tell anyone their mushroom experience was "bullshit" based on the content of your own experience? Every brain is a unique creature. Every person experiences EVERYTHING, however commonly, wildly different from every other human being. Perhaps you felt he was exaggerating, fine, but I wouldn't be so quick to say that someone's interpretation of such an overwhelming experience would be "bullshit." We all perceive and interpret things in our own way.
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BoulderBoomer
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Re: Cartoon land? Or BS? [Re: Cubie]
#8007327 - 02/11/08 12:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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LA? Santa Cruz? The water looks way too blue for the west coast, but it also looks like the colors have been adjusted.
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Seraph in Blue
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Re: Cartoon land? Or BS? [Re: pong]
#8007337 - 02/11/08 12:48 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The biggest reason as to why I called his BS is because he is one of my oldest and I guess closest friends and I know him for commonly exaggerating or making up extravagant lies in order to seem more interesting or whatnot.
People like Leary, Hoffman, and Shulgin always talk about signatures or fingerprints of each psychedelic drug and how everyone experiences at least the basic structural components of a compound the same way. If the most you've gotten out of a psychedelic experience was cartoony visuals or being transported to cartoonland, I'd have to say you're lying.
I always have cartoony visuals within my kaleidescopic visuals or sometimes in clowd formations, but they are much more detailed and always in at least 3 dimensions.
What I'm saying is, EVERY time I trip on one particular substance, the trip always has those same distinguishing features to it and that same basic feeling to it to distinguish say a mushroom trip vs a 2C-I trip vs an LSD trip.
I guess it's just hard to convey just how much like bullshit this sounded to me. Inflection, the fact that he's known for lying, and the fact that all he talked about was "driving around a cartoon land" when he tripped on mushrooms.
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handicappedrat
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Every time I take LSD or shrooms, I seem to be in Wonderland (if its LSD) or a Dr. Seuss book (if it's shrooms).
So I don't think his cartoonland is bullshit at all.
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