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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
    #8496767 - 06/07/08 04:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

so how's it goin everyone?

since the last time i posted in here i started doing balloon holding for 20 minutes, then around a week ago i moved to the next part of the book. i do 4 out of those 8 opening exercises now, soon i'll learn and incorporate the next 4. i started doing the 3rd holding the belly exercise for 5 minutes at a time, and i reduced the time of balloon holding to 15 minutes. still liking it a lot, don't miss days too often. the 20 minutes of balloon holding was pretty difficult, but i managed, but now that i moved it down to 15 minutes, i think the 15 minutes is difficult now too. it's like once i get through the 15 minutes i'm like "jeez, how did i used to do this for 20 minutes?" i've been either getting up 45 min earlier at 6am to do them before work, or if i dont get up then i do them before bed at night.

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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: nightkrawler]
    #8497184 - 06/07/08 07:37 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Still practicing and have moved on to doing some of the other exercises in the book. :thumbup:

In fact for the time being at least I have dumped all other weight training for a focus on this.


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
    #8499158 - 06/08/08 07:16 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I have done the reverse. I have let Qi Gong slide, but went heavily into joint mobility, flexibility, and more kettlebell. I definitely think there is much value to it, and I will return to it shortly as my time allows. Right now I have health goals I want to complete already. It also must be said that proper kettlebell practice reinforces all the the same points covered by Qi Gong, but with  strength added. I am discovering the key for me is to move from total tension to total relaxation and back at will in an instant.


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
    #8499368 - 06/08/08 09:17 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I am trying a different form of Kettle workout:



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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8499482 - 06/08/08 10:15 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

It makes for strong stomach muscles.


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #8499485 - 06/08/08 10:16 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Here is a very related post that I put in Mental and Physical well being. It also could fit well with Qi Gong so here is the link:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8499479/an/0/page/0


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #8500116 - 06/08/08 01:34 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
I have done the reverse. I have let Qi Gong slide, but went heavily into joint mobility, flexibility, and more kettlebell. I definitely think there is much value to it, and I will return to it shortly as my time allows. Right now I have health goals I want to complete already. It also must be said that proper kettlebell practice reinforces all the the same points covered by Qi Gong, but with  strength added. I am discovering the key for me is to move from total tension to total relaxation and back at will in an instant.




Most excellent.:thumbup:


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
    #8500163 - 06/08/08 01:51 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I started with a tennis ball and now I can lift a bowling ball with my testicles. You never know when this skillset might come in handy.


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8500683 - 06/08/08 04:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

It is a very handy skill set actually. A heart rate in the upper 40s, and the capacity for insane work loads is amazing. I recently found that I could pick up 2 computers weighing about 20 pounds between the the first joint of my thumb and forefinger with each hand. This comes in handy in my job when I have to load up a bunch of junk computers for disposal.....but this is NOT Qi Gong. I now return you to your regularly scheduled thread...


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #8503309 - 06/09/08 11:55 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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It also must be said that proper kettlebell practice reinforces all the the same points covered by Qi Gong, but with  strength added. I am discovering the key for me is to move from total tension to total relaxation and back at will in an instant.




I thought the idea behind Qi Gong is tension and relaxation at the same time. This would be different then what you are working towards with kettlebells. Buy the way what you are doing with that idea is fundamental to success in the martial arts.


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Edited by Icelander (06/09/08 11:56 AM)


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
    #8503377 - 06/09/08 12:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Kettlebell training requires that one be loose where needed and tight where necessary as well in order to conserve energy and exert maximum force with efficiency. Qi Gong does add tension...no doubt. It teaches how to remain relaxed while partially under tension, and it teaches proper breathing, but body weight cannot approach the tension generated by a by an iron sphere 24 to 40 KG in weight. It also approaches proper breathing in an imminently practical manner. The kettlebell approach is deeper than strength training. Here is a post that might answer your question. Note: light KBs are just good for teaching form. Once form is mastered heavy ones will show one the practicality of their approach. I am not dissing Qi Gong, but it was not until I started with KBs that it became obvious to me what I was doing. Qi Gong training is cloaked in mysticism while KB training is transparent. A Qi Gong approach that lays out the directives plainly would be a great benefit to practitioners. I see Qi Gong and KB as sister arts myself because of the similarities.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8499479/an/0/page/0

I wrote it yesterday. By the way kettlebell training is considered a fundamental training for many martial arts styles...particularly grappling styles.


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Edited by Huehuecoyotl (06/09/08 12:34 PM)


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #8505078 - 06/09/08 08:24 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Slightly different ideas that work well together.


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
    #8505242 - 06/09/08 09:15 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Yes there is a slight difference. The RKC kettlebell approach is a hybrid approach while Qi Gong is a pure oriental approach....hard style, and soft style. Had i understood what Qi Gong was truly about when I posted this it would have went into a different part of the shroomery.


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #8507023 - 06/10/08 11:15 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

all one thing

Nothing "spiritual" that isn't material and vice versa.


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
    #8507215 - 06/10/08 12:26 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

true


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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8507237 - 06/10/08 12:31 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I did the liver exercise one night when i took way over the lethal dose of acetaminophen and I'm still here so i think it worked


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