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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: dorkus]
#8286439 - 04/15/08 11:14 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm up to 12 minutes now. I will get to 15 in a few more days i believe. I like this more and more.
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
#8287087 - 04/15/08 02:26 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am very eager to up it already, but will restrain myself.
It is ok to do a longer warm up session where I include more moves, right? Have downloaded lots of instructional videos on tai chi and moving qi gong just to learn. Love to scoop until I tingle. 
I can even feel a difference in the concentration level achieved my daily meditation sittings. It might be because of several reasons, I have straightened out my diet and started doing long daily walks. Guess I am on a roll. Unsure how much of it cab be blamed on qi gong, but it seems to keep my motivation high.
Also for me it helps to give some thanks through 'prayer', and ask for continuous guidance and inner support from the Buddhas, the teachers, the friends and family. This might be silly, but it keeps me going and puts me in a good mind-space.
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: dorkus]
#8287122 - 04/15/08 02:39 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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If I recall he suggests that until you can stand holding the ball for at least 20 minutes you should not proceed to any other exercises.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
#8287209 - 04/15/08 03:04 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, I don't do any others like that. It is just some light warm up exercises. I won't add more though.
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: dorkus]
#8287397 - 04/15/08 03:41 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I do all the warm-up exercised he recommends
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
#8287651 - 04/15/08 04:38 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I had a couple of extras. But you're right again. I'll remove them for the time being.
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: dorkus]
#8287690 - 04/15/08 04:47 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I believe his idea is that the standing exercise will start energy flowing thru blockages and smooth things out over a couple of months or so. Only then will the other exercises be of benefit. The aches and pains while standing are in reality blockages to energy flow. That's his idea anyway.
It's a little early but I feel like I am already getting benefit from these exercises. I feel more relaxed and sleep better. Often I wake in the night feeling like I'm on a low dose of Ecstasy, which is really nice. I have never felt that before so this might be due to standing.
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
#8288132 - 04/15/08 06:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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That is awesome to hear.
Despite people claiming it is too early, I am sure I feel slight differences already too. Have always been pretty sensitive to streams and tensions though, and I think practising meditation for 10 years has helped too. That is definitely an exercise in sitting still and weeding out the tensions gradually.
I do not think the other exercises will be of benefit only after having practised the standing one for a few months. That would be like claiming that other forms of chi kung that did not include the standing still were completely worthless which sounds kind of dogmatic to me.
However I do have complete trust in this system and will follow it in detail.
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Still going strong, haven't missed a day.
Stuff started coming up after yesterdays session, and I have been flooded with more latent irrationality. Lots of tears, but some kind of warm, loving feeling accompanies the crying. 
Gave up cigarettes a week ago without cravings. The habit just dropped away. Haven't done any druqs either for three weeks, which is pretty unusual for me.
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: dorkus]
#8315164 - 04/22/08 04:46 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very cool I've made the balloon stance up to 15 min per day now.
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
#8317097 - 04/23/08 12:11 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow! Turned into a sadhu during the stance today. Expecting full awakening in four years.
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: sadhu]
#8318091 - 04/23/08 09:41 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Expecting full awakening in four years.
But first.... a nap.
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
#8318793 - 04/23/08 01:29 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said: Expecting full awakening in four years.
But first.... a nap.
Yup. And afterwards... another.
Starting to see that all the small choices matter. Like a fractal it spreads from all acts.
Edited by sadhu (04/23/08 02:00 PM)
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: sadhu]
#8320969 - 04/23/08 09:19 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
sadhu said:
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Icelander said: Expecting full awakening in four years.
But first.... a nap.
Yup. And afterwards... another.
Starting to see that all the small choices matter. Like a fractal it spreads from all acts.
You said a lot there.
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
#8326558 - 04/25/08 10:56 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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so anybody noticing any benefits yet?
i used to be a big oversleeper, sometimes sleeping 10-11 hours a night. i've noticed that that doesnt happen anymore. i seem to wake up now pretty much 8 hours after i went to bed, feeling fully refreshed. i don't even set an alarm clock, just wake up naturally in 8 hours.
it seems like it's tough to attribute something specifically to qi gong though, as i've been doing it for a little over 2 months now, and it really could've been something else that caused the benefits.
either way, i enjoy it and certainly am going to keep at it. still at 15 min for the ball holding exercise. i feel like it's gonna be a tough jump to 20, as 15 is still really difficult right now.
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Yeah 15 can be tough, I find that going up a minute every few days or a week will get the job done without undue strain.
I am a poor sleeper and I am finding my sleeping habits improved. Still it's a little early to make any claims IMO.
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
#8326849 - 04/25/08 12:18 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is an constant raging erection considered a benefit?
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: blewmeanie]
#8327336 - 04/25/08 03:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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For your girlfriend it is.
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Re: Qi Gong Practice [Re: Icelander]
#8328924 - 04/25/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Classy
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I have done 20 minutes for two days running now. I think I can begin some of the other exercises.
It's interesting that the first 10 minutes is most difficult and the last 5 is the most focused and relaxed even though my body shakes with strain at times. Settling into the body at this time is an interesting experience and feels very satisfying.
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