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RedRabbit
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morning gloree
#8004918 - 02/10/08 02:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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are burpe e e morning glory seeds treated with pesticides? what about T&M???
what are the negative health risks associated with LSA?
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TypicalTripper
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Re: morning gloree [Re: RedRabbit]
#8004968 - 02/10/08 02:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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They're not treated with pesticides , but rather something that will make your trip hell ( your stomach won't stomach them)
As for the health effects , they cause vasoconstriction, some muscle cramps ( must be the vasoconstriction) , and stomach discomfort/nausea.
You can make that all go away with a nice joint !
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RedRabbit
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I have heard b u r pee was one of the brands that didn't treat their seeds....
./... and not all of it goes away with a joint.... dramamine is neccessary
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I have yet to use the knowledge i learn on this site...
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Re: morning gloree [Re: RedRabbit]
#8005828 - 02/10/08 06:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't have any specific information that Burpee treats their seeds, except that most large-scale seed companies do. You have to seek out seeks that are marked as untreated to be 100% sure.
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thedudenj
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N and K lawn and garden. co. Seeds are very strong tho i suggest washing the seeds off before eating em. I have infacted washed them and then Crushed em with a rock and ate which was strong but rough on the body but it was for a ceremony so it was all good. To make one with the least body issuses either alcohol and naptha polar-non polar extract or acid-base
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Re: morning gloree [Re: thedudenj]
#8005918 - 02/10/08 06:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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thedudenj said: To make one with the least body issuses either alcohol and naptha polar-non polar extract or acid-base
Polar/nonpolar is good, but acid base extractions on LSA are pretty much a no-go. You might be able to accomplish it basifying with baking soda or washing soda, but our old standby NaOH will chop all of the lysergic amides down to plain old lysergic acid, which isn't any good for eating.
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Nexius
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Entropymancer said: I don't have any specific information that Burpee treats their seeds, except that most large-scale seed companies do. You have to seek out seeks that are marked as untreated to be 100% sure.

This particular seed is untreated.
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thedudenj
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Re: morning gloree [Re: Nexius]
#8005995 - 02/10/08 06:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i have to disagree strongly why do you say NaOH will chop all of the lysergic amides down to plain old lysergic acid, i think it depends on how basic you make it the PH should be 9 or 10 not really high and that naptha will deffinatly collect psychoactive stuff. Either im right or i can make other people trip really hard like LSA off nothing at all. but i doubt thats the case cause i did the extraction on weak plants and only got a very light feeling. and yeilded way more powder. Which might bring up that maybe its not good to let the seeds sit in the basifid solution or something, or its just that it was a weak sample of plant which it was home grown mornging glories of a weak strain rather then store brand strong strain.
any who. the acid base worked fine for me and the people that had it. just dont over base it
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Re: morning gloree [Re: Nexius]
#8006590 - 02/10/08 09:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nexius said:
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Entropymancer said: I don't have any specific information that Burpee treats their seeds, except that most large-scale seed companies do. You have to seek out seeks that are marked as untreated to be 100% sure.

This particular seed is untreated.
are you positive? thats with all Burpee heavnly blues?
I'd like to know your source.... but what exaactly is on the seeds anyway?
I have heard mecury wich makes me nervous.
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I have yet to use the knowledge i learn on this site...
hee hee i should patent this!
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thedudenj
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Re: morning gloree [Re: RedRabbit]
#8007252 - 02/11/08 12:22 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i dunno but naptha sure as hell pulls it out
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Re: morning gloree [Re: thedudenj]
#8007840 - 02/11/08 07:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Morning glory seeds were my first full-on psychedelic experience and, ya know, the weirdest thing about it is that in my experience, when I eat the seeds (that is, ground up and in a drink, such as orange juice) it takes marijuana in order to actually trip. Otherwise, I'll just get really stoned. As a result, I've only actually really tripped off of them once.
I got my morning glory seeds from iamshaman.
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Re: morning gloree [Re: RedRabbit]
#8007863 - 02/11/08 07:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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RedRabbit said:
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Nexius said:
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Entropymancer said: I don't have any specific information that Burpee treats their seeds, except that most large-scale seed companies do. You have to seek out seeks that are marked as untreated to be 100% sure.

This particular seed is untreated.
are you positive? thats with all Burpee heavnly blues?
I'd like to know your source.... but what exaactly is on the seeds anyway?
I have heard mecury wich makes me nervous.
My source is eating them myself after putting them in a coffee grinder, mercury would kill you dude.
I ate the seeds whole, didnt digest them very well but I also didn't throw up for have discomfort
And yes i'd only stick with heavenly blue
Now.... I bought them at steins theres also another brand they sell which i had a better experience with ( i beleive it's the only other brand they sell )
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Edited by Nexius (02/11/08 07:59 AM)
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Re: morning gloree [Re: Nexius]
#8007871 - 02/11/08 08:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't know how it's been with anyone else, but I know that with me, each time I used morning glory seeds, the discomfort got worse and worse until the last time I did it when I finally puked.
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thedudenj
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hmm the whole thing about MGs where you have to smoke for them to kick in is all a mental tick or something like that, i have noticed it amoung people too. its a result of them mainly be used to pot and needing that little nudge to make everything else tick. But as i have said tons of times this is just yet another tool.
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Re: morning gloree [Re: thedudenj]
#8027632 - 02/15/08 02:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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hmm, well i think that they are certainly active without mj.. but it helps
-------------------- all posts and statements made are completely fictional, I greatly detest being associated with any illegal activites, In fact, I have never done anything illegal, I choose to learn about differant substances so that in the case where i might need to interact with them, I shall know alot about them, This is a principle in everything i do...
I have yet to use the knowledge i learn on this site...
hee hee i should patent this!
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