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"the rabbit hole"
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the deeper you go the darker it gets?
conscious realizations of autonomous archetypal powers in the psyche...
what (in your words) is the "rabbit hole"?
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yer minnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd dude.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Icelander]
#8004769 - 02/10/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ya it is self explanitory
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"And if you gaze long enough into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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i think it's all the things we don't want to know
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what a beautiful sig Uwpner Trrsknm
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The rabbit hole is that dark place in the hills outside of town where you go in case you see through the Game of Civilization. Each culture has one. Though few may feel driven to go exploring outside of city walls, the call will come through in any way it can find.
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EternalCowabunga said: i think it's all the things we don't want to know
I don't agree. It's not that black and white. The rabbit hole is amazing if you don't freak out.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said: The rabbit hole is amazing if you don't freak out.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: NiamhNyx]
#8004882 - 02/10/08 02:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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NiamhNyx said: "And if you gaze long enough into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
This is the scary part.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Icelander]
#8004888 - 02/10/08 02:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, at a certain point, if you look deep enough, the abyss will disappear along with you. That's what they say when one goes too far down.
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Who's they?
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Icelander]
#8004906 - 02/10/08 02:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Anyone watching from a distance.
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Yeah, the rabbit hole is a novel idea. Once you try and step outside of the human culture and basic programs then things start to waver and one loses a solid grip on the personality structure. What ever is outside of the human cultural perspective is the unknown. I think?
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Icelander]
#8004992 - 02/10/08 03:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'll go with that notion.
Sometimes I think about how we have been claiming all this land on Earth and sticking flags in the ground and putting up borders and all that jazz; yet still, I feel that there might also a kind of psychic terrain that has its own mountains and molehills still untouched by territorial endeavors. If this reflects some truth then I would assume that this is a realm that can be accessed linguistically and with the aid of DMT.
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What humans do and influence is infinitesimal.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Icelander]
#8005113 - 02/10/08 03:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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A pinhead likened to the sum of all human ideas.
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There are many rabbit holes.
We couldn't say exactly where all the rabbit holes are and how deep they go, but I can sure as hell tell you that they are not in our TVs, in schools, mass media, etc... They're around.. but we're conditioned not to look.
And it fuckin pisses me off that to go down the rabbit holes is not valued in society and if you do you are ridiculed and considered "weird".
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Ginseng1]
#8005275 - 02/10/08 04:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think it's a fear thing. People are afraid of the unknown and are uncertain about what doors may be opened if rabbit hole exploring was encouraged.
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hence we remain enslaved for all of enternity...
the fear of the unknown, or the fear of letting what's known be free for all to see. What would the world be like then?
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Ginseng1]
#8005335 - 02/10/08 04:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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hence we remain enslaved for all of enternity...
Can you say exaggeration?
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Ginseng1]
#8005344 - 02/10/08 04:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't know. Living comfortably [and of course sustainably] by having biological needs met would be a good place to start. Can't think very big with an empty stomach.
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What are we talking about here?
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Ginseng1]
#8005371 - 02/10/08 04:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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"The Rabbit Hole" is a private club in Seattle.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Icelander]
#8005392 - 02/10/08 04:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The scary thing is when you go down the hole and relize how much you don't matter. And how you didn't care that you didn't matter while gone. Like your just a person in a tv show and the ones who really matter are watching you. I once broke through to the other side and and it felt so normal, like I was always supposed to. And my previous life no longer mattered.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Cubie]
#8005409 - 02/10/08 04:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes nothing human is of much import to the Great Oz.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Ginseng1]
#8005416 - 02/10/08 04:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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And it fuckin pisses me off that to go down the rabbit holes is not valued in society and if you do you are ridiculed and considered "weird".
Sounds like you have yet to traverse the rabbit hole that frees you from emotional attachment to the opinion of others.
Of course, if you weren't so weird...
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The rabbit hole is not to be confused with the K hole
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OrgoneConclusion said: Sounds like you have yet to traverse the rabbit hole that frees you from emotional attachment to the opinion of others.
I don't care about others opinion about me. I care more about the group minds opinions on the subjects themselves. It pisses me off that certain paradigms are not embraced and labelled with "DO NOT TOUCH". This is not about me its about us, man. We need to evolve
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MushroomTrip said: The rabbit hole is not to be confused with the K hole
Nor the pie hole
Oh shit. I wish I had some pie
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Ginseng1]
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OrgoneConclusion said: Sounds like you have yet to traverse the rabbit hole that frees you from emotional attachment to the opinion of others.
I don't care about others opinion about me. I care more about the group minds opinions on the subjects themselves. It pisses me off that certain paradigms are not embraced and labelled with "DO NOT TOUCH". This is not about me its about us, man. We need to evolve
Speak for yourself.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Icelander]
#8005489 - 02/10/08 05:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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What's that supposed to mean?
And you are not *evolved* if that's what you're tryign to get at. Nobody is. Only Jesus himself.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Ginseng1]
#8005494 - 02/10/08 05:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fuck that. You know nothing about Jesus, boy.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Ginseng1]
#8005496 - 02/10/08 05:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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He is speaking of emotional detachment, young warrior.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Icelander]
#8005550 - 02/10/08 05:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't think Jesus would make racial undertones only to repent them.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Ginseng1]
#8005587 - 02/10/08 05:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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What the fuck does that mean?
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Icelander]
#8005603 - 02/10/08 05:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You know exactly what it means.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Ginseng1]
#8005619 - 02/10/08 05:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It means after Jesus says nigger he'll repent
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Cubie]
#8005689 - 02/10/08 05:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Your awareness is nothing more or less than a council of archetypal drives seated in your brain, running affairs based on a huge list of "needs." We're all the same mind when it comes down to it, we simply each have a different relationship with the universe.
Where the hell did Jesus come from?
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Cubie]
#8005727 - 02/10/08 06:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I meant in the discussion, but we can use your answer.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Ginseng1]
#8005782 - 02/10/08 06:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ginseng1 said: You know exactly what it means.
How stupid is this response? I would not have asked if I knew what you meant.
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"Where the hell did Jesus come from? " He was stuck in the rabbit hole, or he even transcended it.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Icelander]
#8008651 - 02/11/08 12:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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How stupid is this response?
Yeah but, how stupid is this response?
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The deep you go the darker it gets
I can definitely relate to this.
I found you can reach a point where you just want to return to being normal.
After dissolving your entire sense of self through hallucinogens for several hours, you can eventually think that those all familiar and often automated parts of life are somehow keeping us sane.
Sometimes I have the feeling that I'm not ready for some of the revelations into the human psych that hallucinogens have shown me. They blown my mind so much that I've had to stop thinking about them to maintain sanity!
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After dissolving your entire sense of self through hallucinogens for several hours... I found you can reach a point where you just want to return to being normal.
No sense of self = no desire. No desire = no wish to go anywhere.
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Thats true,
But I said AFTER the experience.
Its that point where you can't think anymore. Your minds been blown so much that you don't want to do psychedelics again!
When I was younger I was eager to blow my mind and learn as much as possible but I think you can go to far. Theres only so much our minds can comprehend (or mine at least!).
I'm sure some people here can relate to this thought.
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I would trip every day if I could but I'm only 19 so I got a long way to go.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Cubie]
#8012058 - 02/12/08 05:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can't trip every day because of cross tolerance
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Cubie]
#8012059 - 02/12/08 05:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes Humble
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That's why I said if....
When I first started tripping I wasted a quarter eating it after I ate an 1/8 the previous day
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Cubie]
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The rabbit hole is really not that deep. Depends on if you like stacking blocks or are more of a faith type.

Mind the stars on the bottom sir.
Oh, and once you get to the end its like you never moved. Either that or schizophrenia which is manageable but literally hell. I wonder what could have made the trip smoother for me. A map??
On second thought... Its not worth it, imo. Its just rabbit hole after rabbit hole.

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Because of my upbringing, I am cross intolerant:
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ahh, the wit astounds. 
I have a rather pronounced dent near the top of my skull, I used to get horribly paranoid that LSD was hurting my brain.
Dark holes are fun until they start to dry out.

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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Ginseng1]
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The deeper you go, the brighter it gets but at times, it's too bright, sending too much information to the senses.
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the rabbit HOLE is the event horizon for sequence: you could say it is where time AS WE KNOW IT ceases to function.
anything from any moment can exist with anything from any other moment - time becomes elastic - space becomes branched in uncanny ways. imagination is unshackled.
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"imagination is unshackled."
Yikes is all I can say. When your compass is not pointed properly you might as well jump on the ass end of a shovel and start backfilling the gaping cavern of darkness that reveals itself. Mental torture filter engaged. Balance. Burn.
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I believe the man in that picture misspelled 'Moranis'.
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Re: "the rabbit hole" [Re: Lion]
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My blue heaven Strange brew Little shop of horrors Head office The wild life

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zactly
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