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Anonymous #1

casinos, testament to human stupidity?
    #8004641 - 02/10/08 01:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I keep getting this ad which made me start to wonder cuz I dont really understand how ppl can play at casinos, its common sense the only way they can survive is by you loosing and yet ppl flock to it supposedly knowing their going to loose, wth?, its like a testament to human stupidity I dont get it

or their just comfortable being insane, there are way better thrills to spend your money on no?


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Anonymous #2

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8004791 - 02/10/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

youve never been to a casino and won obviously.


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Anonymous #3

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #8004897 - 02/10/08 02:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

People go because there is an excitement and "rush" that comes from gambling. The thought that you could win big.

Unfortunately, the objective, statistical data say that in the long run you will lose. This is what prevents me from going to casinos. This is what I don't understand about people who go to casinos very frequently and all the time. Do these people lack the intelligence to realize that they will lose money? or do they not care?


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Anonymous #4

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #8004905 - 02/10/08 02:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Once you begin to win, even if you are winning your own money back, you will be removed from the casino based on the opinion that you are "using an unfair advantage" to win.

The OP is correct, whoever gambles at a casino is sick, or stupid.


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Anonymous #5

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #8005072 - 02/10/08 03:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's just a tax on the stupid.

I'm 100% in favor of building more casinos.

Put the fuckers everywhere.


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Anonymous #4

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #8005097 - 02/10/08 03:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Compassion centers should be everywhere, prop 215 should be everywhere, fuck casinos. Dry smash casinos shit box.


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Anonymous #6

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #8005383 - 02/10/08 04:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Everytime ive gone into a casino ive always came out with a grand more than i came in with. Casinos make money from slot machines and other rigged electronic games. Go play some black jack at a table. Some people will loose and more people will win. Hell all you have to do is play safe like the dealer is always gonna bust. Cause more than likely they will. Where you can sit at 14 and still win. or if you have 11 you can double down and guarantee not to bust. There was one time that i lost all but 5 dollars at black jack but turned that 5 dollars into 700 dollars at that table before leaving. Also you will notice that the more you win the more alcohol the waiters will try to push on you, especially the booz on the house ;] Thats how they get people to loosen up with their money and loose it faster. Dont drink and gamble. Ive never been kicked out of a casino but everytime i start winning decent amounts or start bidding higher amounts 1 or 2 security guys will show up behind the dealer and watch. Its rather hard to cheat at black jack when you dont even touch the cards at all.


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Anonymous #7

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8006030 - 02/10/08 07:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm assuming you don't spend money on any other form of entertainment.


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Anonymous #1

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #8007993 - 02/11/08 09:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
Everytime ive gone into a casino ive always came out with a grand more than i came in with. Casinos make money from slot machines and other rigged electronic games. Go play some black jack at a table. Some people will loose and more people will win. Hell all you have to do is play safe like the dealer is always gonna bust. Cause more than likely they will. Where you can sit at 14 and still win. or if you have 11 you can double down and guarantee not to bust. There was one time that i lost all but 5 dollars at black jack but turned that 5 dollars into 700 dollars at that table before leaving. Also you will notice that the more you win the more alcohol the waiters will try to push on you, especially the booz on the house ;] Thats how they get people to loosen up with their money and loose it faster. Dont drink and gamble. Ive never been kicked out of a casino but everytime i start winning decent amounts or start bidding higher amounts 1 or 2 security guys will show up behind the dealer and watch. Its rather hard to cheat at black jack when you dont even touch the cards at all.




You make it sound easy, you are either a very good player, lucky, both or just lying.

Common sense tells me if it where that easy to win plenty ppl wouldnt need jobs and just make a living off of casinos.

What you say just doesnt add up.:tongue:


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Anonymous #8

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8008057 - 02/11/08 09:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Come on guys, not everyone who gambles is desperate and stupid. Every year millions of normal people go to Vegas, drop a few hundred bucks and have a great time anyway.

People who think it is the path to riches are probably fooling themselves though.


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Anonymous #9

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #8008149 - 02/11/08 10:22 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Some people do make a living off gambling.


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Anonymous #4

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #8008239 - 02/11/08 10:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

By Scamming the casinos:smirk:


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Anonymous #1

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #8008525 - 02/11/08 11:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Come on guys, not everyone who gambles is desperate and stupid. Every year millions of normal people go to Vegas, drop a few hundred bucks and have a great time anyway.




If by normal you mean unimaginative tourists with nothing better to do then yeah, I guess they are normal. The machines practically have a sign on them that says "please flush your money down this toilet".

Stereotyping a little here but its probably the same kind of ppl who go to the cinema every weekend to watch popcorn flicks cuz they dont really know how to have fun.

Quote:

Some people do make a living off gambling.



dealers

LOL I just asked my bro if hes been to a casino and this was his reply

Quote:

in Niagra Falls, I just looked around.. it seemed like such a bizarre environment.. flashing lights, sounds going off like crazy from all directions, while you have these humans just sitting in a chair in front of machines just staring at them, and pulling a lever every 10 seconds

inserting their money over and over..




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Anonymous #10

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8008539 - 02/11/08 12:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If your life is run by statistical data, I guess you need to stay in doors. Don't want to get west nile. Stay in a confined germ free area, you may be at risk for over 500 million kinds of bacteria.


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Anonymous #10

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #8008547 - 02/11/08 12:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Gambling with luck is a lot different then gambling with skill.

New gamblers go and are trying with their luck. People who are regulars will go in and sit down at a texas hold em table and win 10 grand.


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Anonymous #1

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #8008624 - 02/11/08 12:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I find it kind of funny everyone who tries to defend the casinos only mentions when ppl win big, how many times did these regulars have to loose before they won?


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Anonymous #1

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #8008663 - 02/11/08 12:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
If your life is run by statistical data, I guess you need to stay in doors. Don't want to get west nile. Stay in a confined germ free area, you may be at risk for over 500 million kinds of bacteria.



fail comment is fail, statistical data will show we wont get west nile, we wont get very sick in the open and that most bacteria we come in contact with wont harm us

if you run your life by statistical data you will ALWAYS be at the top, it reminds me of this online poker champion who used a computer to deduct all the possibilities before he made his move, he won several thousand dollars and then went to a real tournament where he learned to memorize most of what the computer did and won a million dollars, I saw it on Daily Planet a show here in Canada from Discovery channel


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Anonymous #11

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8008864 - 02/11/08 01:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I went to shreveport the weekend before last after preparing all my bills. Then i could lose it all without remorse. I took $5800 and brought back $8400.

Gambling is fun. If you don't like it, stay home and shutup.


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Anonymous #4

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #8008893 - 02/11/08 01:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
I went to shreveport the weekend before last after preparing all my bills.  Then i could lose it all without remorse.  I took $5800 and brought back $8400. 

Gambling is fun.  If you don't like it, stay home and shutup.



Why not go to the beach? Why not a club? Why a casino only and if you don't go to a casino you have to stay home and shut up?

You took 5800 and left with 8400:smirk: yea


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Anonymous #12

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #8008933 - 02/11/08 02:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I dunno know how, but my mom goes to the casino to win, and she always does. Usually, she wins at roulette....

I have no idea how... But, she never loses...

She bets big, because to her, unless she comes out 1 grand ahead, it's not winning...

Streak of luck?


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Anonymous #11

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #8008957 - 02/11/08 02:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:

You took 5800 and left with 8400:smirk: yea





Yes.



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Anonymous #11

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #8008963 - 02/11/08 02:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The casino was hot and I was sweating bullets.  (like the picture shows :lol:)  Won several $2000 dollar bets.  Wasn't smart, but it was an experience and I enjoyed it.  Gambling is fun.


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Anonymous #12

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #8008964 - 02/11/08 02:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You lie. You didn't leave, you're still at the casino hotel. I see that shitty hair dryer in your pic.


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Anonymous #11

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #8008972 - 02/11/08 02:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Actually, in that pic, I have $9500. I said I left with $8400.

You are a dumbass, the picture was taken in the hotel.


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Anonymous #1

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #8009100 - 02/11/08 02:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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if you run your life by statistical data you will ALWAYS be at the top, it reminds me of this online poker champion who used a computer to deduct all the possibilities before he made his move, he won several thousand dollars and then went to a real tournament where he learned to memorize most of what the computer did and won a million dollars, I saw it on Daily Planet a show here in Canada from Discovery channel



lol I kind of just self-pwned myself right there but fact is none of us is gonna learn how to become a program wiz and learn all the mathematical intricacies of probability for poker unless we're some kind of genius

or we study like crazy but none of us is gonna do that


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Anonymous #12

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #8009128 - 02/11/08 02:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
Actually, in that pic, I have $9500. I said I left with $8400.

You are a dumbass, the picture was taken in the hotel.




What kind of casion doesn't put you up in their own hotel after you win big?


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Anonymous #8

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8009138 - 02/11/08 02:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
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Come on guys, not everyone who gambles is desperate and stupid. Every year millions of normal people go to Vegas, drop a few hundred bucks and have a great time anyway.




If by normal you mean unimaginative tourists with nothing better to do then yeah, I guess they are normal. The machines practically have a sign on them that says "please flush your money down this toilet".

Stereotyping a little here but its probably the same kind of ppl who go to the cinema every weekend to watch popcorn flicks cuz they dont really know how to have fun.





Quite the soapbox you have there. What do you spend your recreation money on?


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Anonymous #11

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #8009196 - 02/11/08 03:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
Quote:

Anonymous said:
Actually, in that pic, I have $9500. I said I left with $8400.

You are a dumbass, the picture was taken in the hotel.




What kind of casion doesn't put you up in their own hotel after you win big?




That was the hotel at the casino. Diamond Jack's. I also played at the horseshoe.

People win all the time in Casinos. Why is that so hard to believe?


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Anonymous #1

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #8009392 - 02/11/08 03:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Quite the soapbox you have there. What do you spend your recreation money on?



anything I say would be more enthralling physically and mentally short of a board game

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People win all the time in Casinos. Why is that so hard to believe?



no one disbelieves that, you forgot to mentioned that ppl loose all the time too more so than they win

if any of you believes you have such great chances of winning why arent you at a casino right now?


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Anonymous #11

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8009455 - 02/11/08 04:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
Quote:

Quite the soapbox you have there. What do you spend your recreation money on?



anything I say would be more enthralling physically and mentally short of a board game

Quote:

People win all the time in Casinos. Why is that so hard to believe?



no one disbelieves that, you forgot to mentioned that ppl loose all the time too more so than they win

if any of you believes you have such great chances of winning why arent you at a casino right now?




I don't think the odds are in my favor, but they're definitely not so out of balance that you can't walk away a winner. I don't expect you to understand, gambling isn't for everyone. Besides, I make more at work.

I'm not gambling with my livelyhood.


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Anonymous #13

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #8010003 - 02/11/08 06:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

First of all, I know all about gambling, I put myself through grad school as a winning poker player (pretty small-time but winning over 100,000+ hands, all logged by the computer so no deluding myself). I also have a bachelor's in math. So now that you know how super-great I am, here's my random thoughts:

I can't believe no one's mentioned free drinks yet! Go with friends, play the penny slots or $5 blackjack, $1 tip/drink, and it's cheaper than half the bars out there. This is assuming a real casino, not some burnt-rubber-smelling dive in Gary Indiana where you pay for drinks.

Going once in a while you can totally write it off as entertainment expenses. Your expected loss at low-limit blackjack is really only a coupla dollars an hour, and if you go with 4 people, one of you is walking home up $300 and hopefully buying blow for everyone.

There *are* bets out there which favor the player, but they are few and far between. Poker and horse/sports-betting are beatable, because the house doesn't care if you win/lose, they get a cut either way. The beautiful thing is that 90% of the people who think they're winners are really losers with a bit of luck. But try convincing them of that fact. Occasionally there are promotions (free chips, bonus points, whatever) that turn losing bets into winning bets. Systems which do *not* work include: blackjack (all, unless you're a team from MIT with wireless computers in your shoes), doubling your bets until you win, roulette (all, unless you have a laser transmitting data to a computer), looking for "hot" slots, and generally any time you can't prove mathematically that you're a winner.

Although I love casinos very occasionally, especially with free booze, I agree they are, on the whole, ravenous beasts that prey on the basest forms of human weakness. Cheers!

P.S. Lots of hot bitches.


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Anonymous #14

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #8011511 - 02/12/08 12:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I went to a casino once, lost $20 on slot machines. It can be a fun experience, but if your losing money it's hard to not sit there and think of how you could have better spent that money. Winning is great though, i'm sure. And yeah, from my limited experience slot machines are kinda evil. Sounds like you have better chances with cards if you know what your doing, but I was too intimidated to try any of those tables. It's really not that stupid though, some people like a rush, be it from drugs, intense physical activity, or the possibility or winning large amounts of money... to each their own.


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Anonymous #15

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #8012124 - 02/12/08 06:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

gambling is about the emotional rush... hopefully people do it for fun, since unless you're not playing against the house, you're always going to lose. (or loose if you prefer)


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Anonymous #16

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #8012181 - 02/12/08 06:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I would gamble if i had xray vision.


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Anonymous #17

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #8012406 - 02/12/08 08:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Like in the Wonderful story of Henry Sugar.

I've won big in the casinos on occasion (big relative to my bankroll) so sure it happens.

That was on blackjack

But i'm definitely down overall.

I quit gambling and casinos after a friend told me this little curiosity:

the roulette wheel: add all the numbers up (1+2+3 etc all the way to 36) and you get 666

im not a religious nut or anything but my conclusion was this: fuck that

happy gambling :bitchslap:


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Anonymous #12

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #17]
    #8012791 - 02/12/08 10:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

One time me and 3 friends went to shreveport to apply for a job building a new casino, and after we turned in our apps, one friend says
"Lets go to the casnio for a bit"
and were like? ??
And he said
"I'll give each of your $20 and you spend it how you like. If you win at least $80, walk away and come back to the car. If you lost it all, come back to the car. Who ever wins most, has to pay me back for everyone, then the rest of the amount won is split evenly between the four of us and one of you has to buy me lunch, and the other pays for the gas we spent today....

needless to say, this guy loved meth. I mean, with those kinds of ideas...

Anyway, we all come back out of the casino... I got up to $40, but lost back down to $30, and I walked, thinking at least I made $10..

So, we all get back to the car, and one guy won $200 on black jack, one guy lost everything, and the other guy Won $60..

So after we ran his math, we all ended up with more money than we all came with... But, after lunch and gas, dude was like...

"Lets put all our money together and buy a QP,"

So, we did, then we split it for ways, and I sold 3 quarters out of my sack to some friends....

At the end of the day I had $100 in my pocket, and I started out the day with $20.....

I hung around that dude quite often to learn the tricks of hustling...
But I also learned a lot about the dark side of the game that is less glamorous....


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Anonymous #18

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #8012924 - 02/12/08 11:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

im gettting a big check some time soon, and im going to take $1000 of it, and go get a room in a hotel casino with a few friends.

im going to chart out 20 $50 dollar sessions, and put out a clear goal as to how much i want to win per session.

i think that its going to be fun as hell.

anyone want to help me figure out some crazy gambling strategies?


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Anonymous #18

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #8012967 - 02/12/08 11:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i think that at least 4 of the $50 will be straight up martingale  strategies, where i parlay and double my bets till they hit $360 (winning 1:1 bets 6 times in a row) and ill split the bets up over 4 different games.

craps field bet
craps line bet
black jack
roulette (betting red)

4 of the other $50 bundles will be long shot bets.

one will be repeatedly betting 3 different numbers on the roulette wheel

another will be betting on the craps table. betting 7's turning with a horn bet, and parlaying them till they pay $150

10 $5 bets on a high limit slot machine till it pays out over $100

All hard ways bet on the craps table
$30 on the 6 and 8
$20 on the 4 and 10

so lets see here, thats a total of $400 blown... $600 to go :smile:


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Anonymous #18

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #8013023 - 02/12/08 12:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

okay, i'm going to go up to the poker room with $300 play N/l texas holdem. (i play poker all the time, and im not half bad when i play conservatively)

that still leaves $300 left...


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Anonymous #18

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #8013034 - 02/12/08 12:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i think with the other $300, im just going to play craps, take odds on the points, and bet the 6 and 8, mo more than $50 in action coming out of my stack and going to the table, but ill parlay some or all of any winnings i get, muah ha ha. this'll be fun.


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Anonymous #12

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #8013037 - 02/12/08 12:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

also consider playing multiple hands of poker at one time if they will let you.


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Anonymous #18

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #8013058 - 02/12/08 12:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

they will absolutely not let you play multiple hands at holdem, thats for sure.


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Anonymous #15

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #8015013 - 02/12/08 08:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if you know how to play hold'em, why would you put your money anywhere else?

my guess is you don't actually know the odds of winning, and thus it's merely another form of gambling

if you know what you're doing, i don't consider poker to be gambling. statically you will be winning over a period of time


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Anonymous #19

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #8015630 - 02/12/08 10:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

craps game:

90 $ Action
All bets always work.
Place the 5 and 9 for 10$ a piece, go to twenty if they hit.
61$ lay the 10
hard 10 all day for 9 $

Outcomes: 7 hits you get paid thirty for the no 10 ( your profit 1 $ after loosing the 5, 9 , and hardway )

5 or 9 hit twice you win 28 $ (+4$ pocketed each press) each subsequent time you win 28$ more :laugh:
feel free to press it!

hard 10 rolls you loose the 61$ no 10 but win 63 for the hard way (profit 3 $)

The only way to loose is if the easy ten rolls. you loose 70$ and you still have the 5 and 9. If you pressed the 5 and 9 alot you should have more than 70$ on the two. take them back down to twenty and replace the no 10 and hard ten.


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Anonymous #20

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #8018438 - 02/13/08 04:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Real gamblers, gamble on the stock market.

Casino's are just expensive entertainment.


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Anonymous #11

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #20]
    #8018954 - 02/13/08 07:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
Real gamblers, gamble on the stock market.






QFT


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Anonymous #19

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #8021845 - 02/14/08 10:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
if you know how to play hold'em, why would you put your money anywhere else?

my guess is you don't actually know the odds of winning, and thus it's merely another form of gambling

if you know what you're doing, i don't consider poker to be gambling.  statically you will be winning over a period of time




i routienly win playing holdem but my average session is 8 hours and up 500$. It just gets boring. I hate being around the scumbags. In my WHOLE LIFE i have won wayyyyyy more than ive lost. It can be done because its not about luck. I have won quite a bit playing craps, but its on such rare ocasion that the odds havent cought up with me yet. Plus my system only has a house edge of (.82%)Which is better than blackjack or bacarrat. I can play for a long time, and catch an epic roll here and there leving up 5000$ :laugh: if i loose i only loose 300-600 $ on a bad day, then i usualy get it back playing holdem. (i win at poker 2 out of 3 days at worst.) PLuss the comps are very nice when you play 100$ average bet on a crap table for 3-4 hours. even if you have never been to that casino.

Its all for entertainment though. Its fun for me, and if you dont like it suck me :fishsmack:


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Anonymous #19

Re: casinos, testament to human stupidity? [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #8029141 - 02/15/08 08:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
Quote:

Anonymous said:
if you know how to play hold'em, why would you put your money anywhere else?

my guess is you don't actually know the odds of winning, and thus it's merely another form of gambling

if you know what you're doing, i don't consider poker to be gambling.  statically you will be winning over a period of time




i routienly win playing holdem but my average session is 8 hours and up 500$. It just gets boring. I hate being around the scumbags. In my WHOLE LIFE i have won wayyyyyy more than ive lost. It can be done because its not about luck. I have won quite a bit playing craps, but its on such rare ocasion that the odds havent cought up with me yet. Plus my system only has a house edge of (.82%)Which is better than blackjack or bacarrat. I can play for a long time, and catch an epic roll here and there leving up 5000$ :laugh: if i loose i only loose 300-600 $ on a bad day, then i usualy get it back playing holdem. (i win at poker 2 out of 3 days at worst.) PLuss the comps are very nice when you play 100$ average bet on a crap table for 3-4 hours. even if you have never been to that casino.

Its all for entertainment though. Its fun for me, and if you dont like it suck me :fishsmack:



casinos r fun :laugh:


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