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Morning Glory Calculations
    #8004198 - 02/10/08 11:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

128 ounces = 1 Gallon.
1 oz = 28 grams.
28 grams x 128 ounces = 3584 grams or 1 Gallon.

16.2 Grams of Morning Glory Seeds = 1 Dose.
3584 grams / 16.2 Grams or 1 Dose = 221.23 Doses Per Gallon.

Burpee™ Heavenly Blue Morning Glory Seeds 1.8 Gram Packets.
9 Packages Burpee™ Heavenly Blue Morning Glory Seeds = 16.2 Grams or 1 Dose.

9 Packages Burpee™ Heavenly Blue Morning Glory Seeds or 16.2 Grams/1 Dose x 221.23 Doses = 1991.07 Packages Burpee™ Heavenly Blue Morning Glory Seeds or 1 Gallon of Burpee™ Heavenly Blue Morning Glory Seeds.

Does my reasoning sound correct?


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Re: Morning Glory Calculations [Re: Shroom Empire]
    #8004227 - 02/10/08 11:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, I don't get what the fuck you're trying to say... :confused:


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Re: Morning Glory Calculations [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #8004232 - 02/10/08 11:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Is my math right?


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Re: Morning Glory Calculations [Re: Shroom Empire]
    #8004245 - 02/10/08 11:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, sorry, I thought you were trying to make a statement about something... I dunno man, you'll have to get someone here who's good at math... :crazy2:


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I'm in need of a sterile sporeprint, if anyone wants to do a trade for some seeds or something, or maybe just for free if you have a lot of them............. i'd really appreciate it :mushroom2:

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Re: Morning Glory Calculations [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #8004256 - 02/10/08 11:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have absolutely no idea what you were trying to accomlish with the latter 2/3 of those calculations. Care to explain?

From what I understand, I have two concerns:

1.) Where did you get the figure 1 fl oz = 28 g? That's about the density of water, which I'd expect to be different from the density of seeds. If you weighed a fl oz of seeds and found them to weigh 28 g, then the rest of your numbers sound good (although I'd weigh a few more fluid oz's of seeds to get an idea what the relative average deviation is on that 28 g figure).

2.) Burpee seeds have nausea-inducing chemicals on the husks. I assume you've got a plan for removing this before consuming?


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Re: Morning Glory Calculations [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8004286 - 02/10/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

By seeds I meant dry weight in seeds, 28 grams of seeds on a digi is 1 ounce of seeds. I plan on soaking the seeds and in the end making
2 Gallons of mg juice, with 1 gallon of mg seeds.

Sound like it make a good 2 gallons of trips, a 50/50 ratio?


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Re: Morning Glory Calculations (moved) [Re: Shroom Empire]
    #8004357 - 02/10/08 11:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This thread was moved from The Ethnobotanical Garden.

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Not garden related, psychedelic related.


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Re: Morning Glory Calculations (moved) [Re: Shroom Empire]
    #8004388 - 02/10/08 12:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

In principle, yes, that ought to work, but I'd start off making a pint or so as a test batch first, before commiting all of your seeds to the process.

Also, you say you're planning to soak the seeds to make your extract. I've got to ask again, do you have a plan for removing the nausea-inducing chems on the seeds? You don't want to make 2 gallons of vomit potion.

If I'm reading correctly, sounds like you're using water as your solvent. This will work, but people seem to report a lot more pleasant experiences with alcohol extracts. This could be because alcohol enhaces the body's absorbtion of the chemical, or because it increases the cellular concentration of acetaldehyde, promoting formation of lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide in vivo. Who knows why. But based on people's successes with alcoholic extracts I'd recommend considering this option.

Lastly, if you end up making a two gallon batch, you'd better make sure you have a way to store it where it won't be exposed to light. Light is effective at degrading aqueous solutions of LSA


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Re: Morning Glory Calculations (moved) [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8004489 - 02/10/08 12:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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In principle, yes, that ought to work, but I'd start off making a pint or so as a test batch first, before commiting all of your seeds to the process.

Also, you say you're planning to soak the seeds to make your extract. I've got to ask again, do you have a plan for removing the nausea-inducing chems on the seeds? You don't want to make 2 gallons of vomit potion.

If I'm reading correctly, sounds like you're using water as your solvent. This will work, but people seem to report a lot more pleasant experiences with alcohol extracts. This could be because alcohol enhaces the body's absorbtion of the chemical, or because it increases the cellular concentration of acetaldehyde, promoting formation of lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide in vivo. Who knows why. But based on people's successes with alcoholic extracts I'd recommend considering this option.

Lastly, if you end up making a two gallon batch, you'd better make sure you have a way to store it where it won't be exposed to light. Light is effective at degrading aqueous solutions of LSA




I'll use alcohol as the solvent, but what is a good way to remove the vomit inducing chemicals off the seeds?


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Re: Morning Glory Calculations (moved) [Re: Shroom Empire]
    #8004519 - 02/10/08 12:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Naphtha is the way its typically done - soak the seed powder in naptha, stirring... pour off supernatent and let the seed mush dry. Then proceed to extract with alcohol.

More recently som have advocated blasting the seeds with butane (ala the Butane Honey Oil technique) instead of the naphtha wash. This has the advantage that the seeds dry a lot quicker, but may not be worth the effort if you don't have a tube for BHO extractions laying around.


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Re: Morning Glory Calculations (moved) [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8004528 - 02/10/08 12:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Naphtha is the way its typically done - soak the seed powder in naptha, stirring... pour off supernatent and let the seed mush dry. Then proceed to extract with alcohol.

More recently som have advocated blasting the seeds with butane (ala the Butane Honey Oil technique) instead of the naphtha wash. This has the advantage that the seeds dry a lot quicker, but may not be worth the effort if you don't have a tube for BHO extractions laying around.




Where can I find a tek for this Butane Honey Oil technique?


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Re: Morning Glory Calculations (moved) [Re: Shroom Empire]
    #8004545 - 02/10/08 12:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Anywhere you find a search function. Google, Erowid, Wikipedia, these message boards... the sky is the limit


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Re: Morning Glory Calculations (moved) [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8008320 - 02/11/08 11:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Alright guys, I ordered a butane oil tube from o'kief,
but the best I can get for the alcohol is 151 proof everclear.
Will the everclear work well?


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