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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #8016601 - 02/13/08 08:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I wanted to know why he(Doc34) suggests only filling halfway with grain, so I filled 3 jars to the brim to see what would happen...





Haha, the reason for that is just what you experienced=your jars will swell and not be able to be shaken. If you fill your jars up completely, you actually will have enough bird seed to do two jars, that's why I say to only fill them up 1/2 way-to allow for the swelling of the grains.

Other than that, it looks like you are doing great.

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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: doc34]
    #8017048 - 02/13/08 10:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ha! Thanks doc, pleasure to have you stop by. This is my first forey into bulk subs and I'm loving it. I'm thinking of setting up a fully automated martha in a month or two.

I really like the pics you have in your sig, how do you go about filling that many trays? It looks like substrate bags are the way to go, but what should I fill them with to balance ease and yield? I would really like to step up my cultivation to another level.

I'm working with one of my professors (plant sci major) on some strain isolation on agar which is super cool. I can't wait to try some of that in non lab conditions with some hallucinogenic species.


Update:
My tub is prepared and sitting in a dark corner waiting to colonize. I hear a week is standard colonization time, but with this koh samoi I'm hoping it will be shorter seeing as it did my jars in a week from multi spore. I will take some pics when it comes time to case. Thanks everyone!


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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: doc34]
    #8017318 - 02/13/08 12:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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doc34 said:
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I wanted to know why he(Doc34) suggests only filling halfway with grain, so I filled 3 jars to the brim to see what would happen...





Haha, the reason for that is just what you experienced=your jars will swell and not be able to be shaken. If you fill your jars up completely, you actually will have enough bird seed to do two jars, that's why I say to only fill them up 1/2 way-to allow for the swelling of the grains.

Other than that, it looks like you are doing great.

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also.. so you can actually shake ur jar after inoculation... i don't know if this is in the tek but you should leave enough room to shake for faster colonization


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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #8021265 - 02/14/08 07:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I really like the pics you have in your sig, how do you go about filling that many trays?




Thank you. Each one of those trays in my sig held one quart jar each of WBS and I cased using only Coco-Coir as a casing layer.


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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: doc34]
    #8022458 - 02/14/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

WOW! Thats only wbs? People are always saying not to fruit off wbs... Looks like you got your shit together. Keep it up!


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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #8070962 - 02/26/08 12:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hey everyone, another update.

After colonization which took about 8 days:



I pasteurized some 50/50+ with added gypsum. I might have made it a bit too alkaline... We'll see.


Applied the casing:


Trimed up the excess tub liner. Here is the finished casing:


When I finished, the sub was about an inch below the hole level, unacceptable. I drilled two more holes on the short sides of the tub at casing layer. Hopefully this will allow CO2 to exhaust.




Thanks for looking everyone!


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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #8071034 - 02/26/08 12:41 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Looking good!
I can not wait to try a grow of my own after seeing this.


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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: SFsorrow]
    #8071753 - 02/26/08 09:33 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

put the holes on the sides but down at the bottom. You do not want the substrate bathing in co2.


They ask if the substrate/spawn will fall out of the holes? Probably not since most of you stick polyfill in the holes which is a bad idea.
Just cover the holes with tape, it doesnt have to be micropore, remove the tape after the substrate starts holding itsself together.


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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: tahoe]
    #8080594 - 02/28/08 08:09 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Tahoe: I just put some more holes in at substrate level to drain co2 so no worries there. Check the pics.

Just another update. I put my mono into fruiting conditions. Dropped room temp to about 70-75. I have a box fan on low in the corner. And I have a 15watt compact florescent shining at the tub for about 12 hours a day. Sound alright?

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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #8085861 - 02/29/08 11:47 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Hi everyone. Quick update/question. I may have cased a bit late, I had knots forming on the sub that were just starting to turn cinnamon colored... I didn't think much of it at the time, but now I have some pins coming up through my casing layer even though the casing doesn't look fully colonized.



Should I just let them come through and pick them when mature? Or should I pluck them off now so I can get a nice even colonization? I am really excited to see the fruits of my labor. Thanks everyone!


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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #8119129 - 03/08/08 08:43 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Check out my pin set! Not the most impressive, but I'm proud of it.

I picked the 4 I circled in the bottom left because the big one had opened about 3 days ago, I would not like to see rot here.

I have a couple questions maybe you guys can help me out a bit. Some of these fellows look like they are opening a bit short, could this be a sign of CO2 poisoning? I have 10 holes in it with a fan in the room, I would think it gets plenty of FAE but who knows. Maybe the Koh Samoi strain?

Anyone have an opinion on when to do a full harvest, pick off aborts and all? The big cluster in the middle looks like its going to be open and fully mature sometime today or early tomorrow. Alot of inconsistency here as far as maturity goes, some are done but I still have fresh pins coming up... Is there a rule of thumb here as to harvest procedure?

Thanks for stopping by!

P.S. Wet weight of the few I picked 91.3 grams.


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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #8119552 - 03/08/08 11:45 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Your pinset was not that good because you tried fruiting it after you cased it, rather then following the late casing method or the standard colonizing your casing layer.

If your fruits are short it could def be to high CO2 levels. Maybe you used to much polyfill? I switched to tyvek not long ago, still waiting to see results.

As far as fans go, I keep a small fan directly on my monotub on low 24/7. Sounded to me like you just have a fan on in the room.

Nice job though :thumbup:


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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #8139719 - 03/12/08 11:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Well, here it is as right before I took everything. I am hoping for a bit of a better pinset on the next flush, we shall see. These koh samoi are pretty weird in their growth habits, very knarled stems, split caps, and short, thick fruits. I'll let ya know how the trip is at a later date.



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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #8139733 - 03/12/08 11:07 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

weird

my koh samui look absolutely nothing like that. they grow with skinnier stems and grow tall...meh, just goes to show that the name doesnt really distinguish much about a strain

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Re: The Doc does a monotub (Pics) (Final update) [Re: Seventy]
    #8175872 - 03/21/08 01:10 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Well heres the second flush. Nothing too special. Solid shrooms though, made for a nice final weight. Thank you to everyone that answered my questions and offered advice.



This koh Samoi strain, while being a very quick colonizer with excellent visuals, didn't quite turn out to be what I hoped. I didn't like the pin set and the small gnarled growth, but they worked out alright.

Good luck everyone, happy shrooming.

P.S. Would a mod push this into the grow log section.


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