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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8007055 - 02/10/08 11:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I get odd, trippy lucid dreams sometimes after taking more than one Diphenhydramine sleeping pill. One night, I woke up in a cold sweat after a rattlesnake bit me on the hand and when I awoke, my hand hurt in two distinct places as though the fangs has really pierced them.

Also, one night I took some and I still couldn't fall asleep, but when I opened my eyes, I had these creepy visuals involving the shadows.

I know if you take ALOT of diphenhydramine, it acts similar to a dissociative, butI only take like 100mg (2 pills) and my mind does weird things.

How does the dramamine work? I take it for when I trip on mushrooms to settle my stomach. How much of that stuff would you have to take to get those odd lifelike hallucinations you all are talking about?



I dont know how it works but 12 pills or a bottle of original formula do the trick its worth a try if you just want to laugh your ass off.

Get a sitter!!!!!!!

I can handle this stuff but I know people who cant and have gotten arrested for walking into other peoples houses in the middle of the night etc.




Doesn't sound like its for me.

I don't like dissociatives. I've tripped on DXM, had rolls with Ketamine and smoked some weed laced with PCP and all of them are horribly unpleasant and similar to one another. If dramamine gives you that same disconnected feeling and dark, creepy visuals I'll probably never experiment. Also, I don't like loosing control of self. I'm able to maintain control over myself with psychedelics.


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #8007077 - 02/10/08 11:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Dramamine doesn't give you visuals in the sense that psychedelic or dissociative users are used to. The things that you hallucinate on dramamine appear exactly as though they're actually there. The only way I could tell if a thing was real is that the hallucinations would disappear if I touched them.


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8007119 - 02/10/08 11:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Dramamine doesn't give you visuals in the sense that psychedelic or dissociative users are used to. The things that you hallucinate on dramamine appear exactly as though they're actually there. The only way I could tell if a thing was real is that the hallucinations would disappear if I touched them.




So in that sense, they are "real hallucinations" not "pseudo-hallucinations" as described when talking about dissociative disorders and the like.

Sounds intense and maybe something I may try, but it also sounds like it can be very scary and unpleasant, possibly leading to a REAL bad trip. How intense can these hallucinations be? Are you talking tiny spiders crawling around? Or more like entire setting changes?


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #8007144 - 02/10/08 11:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Depends on how much you take. With 12 dramamine, I saw a crazy ghost dog that I thought might attack me. I saw a glowing orb rise out of the ground and float away. I saw the moon flicker on and off, I saw the sky rip in half. Pretty intense stuff, but nothing that gave me the fear.

With higher doses, I hear things get darker and stranger, but I wouldn't know firsthand. I tried it once, and I value the experience for demonstrating how realistic hallucinations can be, but it's not something I really have any desire to do again.


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8007227 - 02/11/08 12:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Depends on how much you take. With 12 dramamine, I saw a crazy ghost dog that I thought might attack me. I saw a glowing orb rise out of the ground and float away. I saw the moon flicker on and off, I saw the sky rip in half. Pretty intense stuff, but nothing that gave me the fear.

With higher doses, I hear things get darker and stranger, but I wouldn't know firsthand. I tried it once, and I value the experience for demonstrating how realistic hallucinations can be, but it's not something I really have any desire to do again.




Thanks. After reading some trip reports on it, I think I'll stay away from that, unless I ever want to feel what it's like to be a paranoid schizofrenic.


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #8007289 - 02/11/08 12:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i made a post about this a couple weeks ago


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: thedudenj]
    #8007309 - 02/11/08 12:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

What's the state of mind like? I'm comftorable with dxm, k, hallucinogens and other dissasociatives, and never need a safesitter. I'm curious if this is something I would need a sitter for, how easy is it to lose track of reality?


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: Helixx]
    #8007400 - 02/11/08 01:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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What's the state of mind like? I'm comftorable with dxm, k, hallucinogens and other dissasociatives, and never need a safesitter. I'm curious if this is something I would need a sitter for, how easy is it to lose track of reality?




From what I read, it's pretty unpredictable and you can get completely lost in your lifelike hallucinations of people around you and you can feel pain, sometimes intense pain.

I'm good with my psychedelics. I think I'll steer clear of this though.


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #8007415 - 02/11/08 01:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah pain can suck once it felt like all my tendons and legiments were cut. a Word to healers wether you know you are yet or not, you can metaphysically absorbe other peoples pain which can happen easy and is begginer healer stuff. notice my qoute lol. you dont need drugs to feel someones metaphysical or physical pain.


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: thedudenj]
    #8009141 - 02/11/08 02:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i find it almost impossible to have a bad dramamine trip because the trip is not emotional at all your mind doesnt race you just see fucked up shit and are like "whatever thats cool."


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8009163 - 02/11/08 02:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've mentioned this in a trip report way back but, I was at a show one time, took some RC, and everytime the lights on the stage would shine bright, I would have an olafactory hallucination and could smell the lights. I musta looked funny sniffing around in the air and dancing.


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8009194 - 02/11/08 03:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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i find it almost impossible to have a bad dramamine trip because the trip is not emotional at all your mind doesnt race you just see fucked up shit and are like "whatever thats cool."




Some of the trip reports I have read were very much like horror stories, some of them ending up in the hospital and a good amount of them listing prolonged and chronic side effects that they believe dramamine to be the cause of.

As a self-professed psychonaut, I may "give it a whirl", if I may, just to gain some insight on just how different these strong deliriants are to my darling psychedelics.


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #8009205 - 02/11/08 03:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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i find it almost impossible to have a bad dramamine trip because the trip is not emotional at all your mind doesnt race you just see fucked up shit and are like "whatever thats cool."




Some of the trip reports I have read were very much like horror stories, some of them ending up in the hospital and a good amount of them listing prolonged and chronic side effects that they believe dramamine to be the cause of.

As a self-professed psychonaut, I may "give it a whirl", if I may, just to gain some insight on just how different these strong deliriants are to my darling psychedelics.




so true. Some reports on erowid talk about no being able to piss and having to get a cathater (sp?) shoved up the urethra. Fux that.


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: cappincrunk]
    #8009219 - 02/11/08 03:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ya my previous statement does not by any means mean if you do try this you should not have a sitter. It is VERY important that you do.


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #8009224 - 02/11/08 03:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Any other interesting Ambien stories?
Every once in a while I get bored at night, or run out of weed, and crush up half an ambien and snort it. Now I'm the first one to admit that this sounds really retarded, and yah it does burn a little, but there's something oddly satisfying about it.. and it's a real fun way to fall asleep. I've not tried a whole one yet, but even a half gets me pretty weirded out. They aren't intense hallucnations, but definitely a dreamy/semi-visual feeling. I enjoy it.


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: bongoboy2000]
    #8009244 - 02/11/08 03:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Any other interesting Ambien stories?
Every once in a while I get bored at night, or run out of weed, and crush up half an ambien and snort it. Now I'm the first one to admit that this sounds really retarded, and yah it does burn a little, but there's something oddly satisfying about it.. and it's a real fun way to fall asleep. I've not tried a whole one yet, but even a half gets me pretty weirded out. They aren't intense hallucnations, but definitely a dreamy/semi-visual feeling. I enjoy it.



Yes I used to do this, I remember seeing everything breathe and move and feeling extreme relaxation for a few mineuts it was alright.


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Re: physical-like hallucinations [Re: Helixx]
    #8009280 - 02/11/08 03:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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What's the state of mind like?




everything felt like it was melting around me, physically and mentally.. i would be looking at my blinds and they would be oozing downwards. it wasn't scary, kind of pleasant in in a way. so i decided to go into complete darkness, and blobs of colors started floating around the room. one blob got sucked into my belly button, and i could actually feel it going into my body. at the end a huge black cloud (don't know how i perceived it to be black since i was in complete darkness) surrounded my body. i swung at the cloud like hitting away a fly and it broke apart, shattering within the wind my hand produced.

these hallucinations were so physically real... touch, feeling, with these "blobs" of colors floating around me.


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