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Chronic7

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Be Here Now
#8003601 - 02/10/08 03:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This book is so incredible, its pure truth. I cant beleive its not more popular, its like reading modern biblical literature, encorporating all religeon's truth and beauty, it explains us on a human and universal scale.
If you do not own this book, you HAVE to get it, i accidently ordered 2 copies and also printed off the PDF i downloaded 1st to check it out, every copy i now have i am going to give away and buy another copy for myself, as you cant put a price on passing on true wisdom.
I feel however after reading the intro i would like to hear more of Ram's story, i also would like to hear what this "crazy" woman in the mountains of mexico (the one who ate mushrooms all the time) had to say...because ive found the more shrooms i do the "higher" i become if you understand, not interms of drugged high but as a being.
Whenever i trip 2 days in a row on the 2nd i really seem to learn some amazing things, its like to trip the day before prepared me for the one after.
Yesterday after my 2nd trip in 2days my 3rd eye opened to the way (Tao)

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lobotomix
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Re: Be Here Now [Re: Chronic7]
#8003730 - 02/10/08 06:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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be here now is ok;
though i advise to read the book:
"I AM THAT" by Nisargadatta
that book i like much better
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MOTH
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Re: Be Here Now [Re: Chronic7]
#8003826 - 02/10/08 07:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I also love Be Here Now and am completely entranced with Ram Dass. I like the Cookbook for a Sacred Life part in the back of the book. Excellant advice...
I agree with you about tripping twice in a row too...my second dose always sends me soaring higher then the first.
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Chronic7

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Re: Be Here Now [Re: MOTH]
#8004001 - 02/10/08 09:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Reading it normally is great but when your tripping its like your transformed into a shaman or something.
i will check out "i am that" but i honestly feel like theres nothing i need to know anymore, im sure ill have times of doubt again but i feel so unbothered by everything, free.
The only thing i feel confined by is my ability to spread this to others, everyone thinks my values are a bunch of has been hippy crap "money makes the owrld go round" is something i keep being told, its so hard to explain to people that money has NO value.
MOTH i like your avatar is there somewhere i can save a larger copy ofit?
Thanks...
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Re: Be Here Now [Re: Chronic7]
#8004262 - 02/10/08 11:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i understand what ur saying;
though i have no problem with people taking mushrooms; as i know what it is...
its easy to take some mushrooms and feel enlightened during the trip and during the afterglow...
but then boring reality kicks in again, and it's time to take mushroom again to feel "spiritual". that was how I felt when i still used mushrooms.
i got tired of being dependent and limited by the use of mushrooms, and am now doing a sober period for long time already.
a long sober period in combination with "sadhana" had very Good effect on me; in the sense that i became a much more sober and "enlightened" person.
maybe i'll trip again sometime, but there's big chance i won't... because i feel it helt me back. (maybe i'm wrong)
my experience with mushroom is... it made me go very high very fast and come down quite fast.
but by doing sober, i go high a bit more slow... but i don't come down again, and keep rising.
i must admit i haven't read much "Ram Dass"; but from what i've read... to me he is much less useful than NISARGADATTA.
peace
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Re: Be Here Now [Re: Chronic7]
#8004381 - 02/10/08 12:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
chronic777 said: money has NO value
Send me all your money. If you do not you are full of shit and a liar. I will pay for transport of said money to my person.
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Chronic7

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Re: Be Here Now [Re: TheCow]
#8005044 - 02/10/08 03:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Your statement is full of shit. I may have exagerated too but moraly money has no value, it only has trade value. And you know thats what i meant.
It breeds jealousy and envy, the only reason id wish for more money is the ability to travel so much & spread wisdom to the world, even though you dont need money for this either.
I was explaining buddhism to my bro in law and saying about being free of attachment and transformation of the mind to integrate positive thought into your mind, instead ofnegative thoght patterns and his reply was "what, like money!?" "fuck that" and it just made me think how someone can be so ignorant, that deep inside he must be a very unhappy unfullfilled person to think money is fullfilling, i tried to explain it has no real value and his reply was "it makes the world go round, end of discussion" and in his mind he thinks he was right, the fact is money becomes the centre of so many peoples lives they forget to centre themselves, they feel moey is a source of happyness, which is SO blind, you cannot disagree with that, only you can decide to be happy you cant depend on external stimuli to do it for you, so you spend your whole life chasing meaningless bits of papaer to feed theyre ego, to believe you have acheived something, made a success out of yourlife, when in reality what have you acheived?
People wonder why they get stressed over it, because they have so much attachment to it, i give up, only you can liberate yourself
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Re: Be Here Now [Re: Chronic7]
#8005091 - 02/10/08 03:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Money might not cause happiness, but it sure helps it. My life would be much happier if I could buy all the shit I wanted. Yes all the worthless material goods that you think are irrelevant, I think are a heap of fun.
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Re: Be Here Now [Re: Chronic7]
#8006019 - 02/10/08 07:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey man. If you want to find out more about Ram Dass, I highly highly recommend the documentary DVD Ram Dass: Fierce Grace. It's very beautiful. I'm glad to see you enjoy this book as it's my all time favorite.
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: Be Here Now [Re: Chronic7]
#8006235 - 02/10/08 07:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you like Be Here Now make sure to check out these three books, they are equally playful, insightful, and positive, with lots of illustrations and practical exercises:
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Chronic7

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Re: Be Here Now [Re: Middleman]
#8008723 - 02/11/08 12:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I got prometheus rising stashed away somewhere never read it!
And to the cow, you may think these material things bring you happyness but not true happyness. Theyre only catering to your ego, no fullfillment there.
Sure a ferrarri and a mansion and to go on holiday once a month for the rest of my life would put a smile on my face, but i dont need these things to feel true happyness in my life. I guess you never heard the story of the buddha.
And yes Lion the book is amaaaazing, im going to share it with all those who care to read it.
Its like everything compressed into one scripture i cant put it dsown and the imigary when tripping is just so indescribably beutiful.
I wish there was a huge hardback version i could buy, or posters of sum of the pictures
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Re: Be Here Now [Re: Chronic7]
#8009190 - 02/11/08 03:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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def. a good read. When I feel off, reading it brings me back to a good place.
-------------------- To derive one's happiness from only specific moments in time is to miss out on the cosmic accident that is all of life's moments
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If you want to know more about Ram Dass life, check out Compassion in Action a book with a really lame cover, but great insides. His spiritual story was far from over when Be Here Now was written, he talks about how he still had a whole lot of changing to do. And he describes alot more drug trips
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Chronic7

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Re: Be Here Now [Re: Turn]
#8018412 - 02/13/08 04:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol the other book covers ARE lame, but like the old saying goes, never judge a book by.....
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