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effects of ergine and isoergine in HBWR seeds
    #8000779 - 02/09/08 04:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.clearwhitelight.org/hatter/lsainfo.htm

good read for those possibly interested in ergine among other lsa's


with all this talk about the effects of HBWR and how to prepare them to maybe lessen the nausea and at best eliminate it...


having done these seeds a number of times I can say that ergine seems to have a sleepy feel no matter how you prepare it (I'm hoping someone with agree with this to reassure my experiences.) I also would like to know if anyone had any success in eliminating the leg pains that you get when taking 10-15+ seeds...I can see the trip going somewhere really intense but the body effects are quite painful...



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pupil_dilation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasoconstriction

also some very interesting reads...another reason we trip balls is because of vasoconstriction...maybe the body thinks it is dieing every time we trip and that is how it reacts...


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Re: effects of ergine and isoergine in HBWR seeds [Re: Bend the Bong]
    #8000807 - 02/09/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

the only experience Ive had with hbws was last year. Me and my brother ate 12 each after burning off the "hairs" that are rumored to be the cause of nausea. I can tell you this...it didn't work, for i was extremely nauseous, and although i felt very lightweight and giggly, i hated the experience overall. It mainly consisted of me laying on the couch in the fetal position. I had friends over that i had to ask to leave due to me being sick and paranoid. I wouldn't recommend them even for the experienced tripper (which i am not) due to the fact that the trip is nothing like mushies....


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Re: effects of ergine and isoergine in HBWR seeds [Re: Bend the Bong]
    #8001170 - 02/09/08 05:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well actually Hofmann agrees with you. He actually took pure ergine and experienced no psychedelic effects, but just tiredness and emptiness.

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml Go near the bottom of the page and you'll see what i mean.


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Re: effects of ergine and isoergine in HBWR seeds [Re: Moo456]
    #8001469 - 02/09/08 05:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This is correct. Ergine (commonly called LSA, lysergic acid amide) is to all indications NOT psychedelic, only sedative. A good read of the information available in TiHKAL and elsewhere should satisfy anyone that it must be other ergoline alkaloids or a synergistic effect responsible for the reported psychedelia with MGS/HBWR.


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