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UberDeepName
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N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question:
#8000772 - 02/09/08 03:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have about 25-30 mg of N,N-DMT. My wife and I would like to each have an experience. We know we won't break through at this level of dose and that is fine. We just want to "test the waters" before going deeper. I have great respect for this chemical. We we're thinking about just sprinkling it on a joint and smoking it that way a la "DMT : TiHKAL entry" for some visual effects and mood lift... just to try it out. Is this a waste? Should we just split it up and smoke it out of a glass pipe? Or take a bong hit with 12 mg in some weed?? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re: N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question: [Re: UberDeepName]
#8000799 - 02/09/08 04:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Split it in half and melt it through one big bong load each. Hold it in.
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fear.loathingSF
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Re: N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question: [Re: 12468]
#8001183 - 02/09/08 05:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have never done DMT, and know relatively little about ayahuasca, but I'm gonna say if DMT can be made into a drink (ayahuasca) then its water soluble and a bong is gonna lessen the effects
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Re: N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question: [Re: UberDeepName]
#8001278 - 02/09/08 05:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you should probably vape it by itself the first time so you know what its like on its own.
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Re: N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question: [Re: Galvie_Flu]
#8001328 - 02/09/08 05:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You need to get a pipe that will allow you to vaporize the DMT. Go to a headshop and buy a cheap crack pipe. Take a big hit and hold it!
Happy trippin!
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Re: N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question: [Re: Cakes]
#8001364 - 02/09/08 05:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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or you could always make one out of a light bulb. never done but seen it done.
also, i am not sure how safe it is to smoke out of a light bulb. fucking tweakers. i swear.
p.s. i am not calling you a tweaker.
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Re: N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question: [Re: drSE]
#8001368 - 02/09/08 05:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i am also in the same situation, but i have 80mg and its myself. i was thinking of testing the waters with a couple 20mg and one breakthrough with 40mg.
should i still hold it in if i vape?
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Edited by drSE (02/09/08 05:43 PM)
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Re: N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question: [Re: drSE]
#8001623 - 02/09/08 06:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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HOLD IT IN
First toke - hold in for 5 seconds Second toke - Hold in for 20 - 30 seconds, or as long as you can.
It's usually really hard to get a third hit.
Make sure you are lying down and have a safe place ready to put the pipe. If you are using a bong or spoon pipe (anything you could spill), it's a good idea to have someone there who can take the smoking implement from you.
When you hear the hum and chatter, just say yes!
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Quote:
fear.loathingSF said: I have never done DMT, and know relatively little about ayahuasca, but I'm gonna say if DMT can be made into a drink (ayahuasca) then its water soluble and a bong is gonna lessen the effects
DMT in ayahuasca admixtures is water soluble. DMT for smoking is DMT freebase and will not be filtered out with bongwater.
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Ahh ok, thanks for the correction
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I'm about to try it for the first time too, and I'm thinking of starting myself off with a light dose of 10mg. What type of experience have you guys had on this type of dosage?
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Lightbulb vaporizer
Get a lightbulb break the black shit it's some kind of glass pull out the insides of the bulb
when it's empty put salt and water in the bulb and get the film outta the inside of the bulb
Now, get a 2liter cap and poke a pen casing in it screw it on
You now have a vaporizer :o
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non break through experiences with smoked dmt for me are generally "awkward" at best... if you are gonna do it, do it all the way.
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Re: N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question: [Re: wrestler_az]
#8005755 - 02/10/08 06:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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When it comes to psychedelics (especially insanely powerful ones whose boundaries cannot be described, such as the one in question) I generally tend to get my feet wet first before diving into the cosmic unity. I like to know my way around the tripspace.
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i understand your thinking. its just the "wet feet" dose of dmt, for me, was somewhat unpleasant... and has scared a few of my friends from trying it again. it is an awkward state, kinda neither here nor there. getting a full break through sized dose will be so exponentially different from the wet feet dose, that in the end the low dose really didnt do much in preparation anyway. just my thoughts, you know yourself better than anyone....
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Re: N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question: [Re: wrestler_az]
#8005832 - 02/10/08 06:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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In that case, I might be better off with 15-20 mg... I've had the "half here half there" sensation on mushrooms and it was very confusing and unpleasant. Like I had been unhinged but remained unopened, or like someone was trying to shove open a door sealed by a deadbolt... if that makes any sense.
What dose would you recommend?
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50mg should do it alright...
i hardly weight out my doses with dmt. i just pack a bunch in there and hit it till i am physically no longer able to. this method usually gets me to where i want to go. anything less is a disappointment, when compared to where it CAN take you.
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you can smoke it out of a bong or pipe the most improtant thing to remeber though is no matter how you smoke it dont actaully burn the dmt you have to hold the flame just above it so it vaporizes is remeber you wanna vaporize it so you get the pure chemicals in your lungs if you burn it your just burnin up the chemical and it wont work.
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Re: N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question: [Re: hippi flip]
#8005873 - 02/10/08 06:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm getting a freebase pipe. 
That said, I will probably not start out with 50 mg doses simply because I'm nervous. I've always been pretty nervous when experimenting with new psychedelics and that feeling has generally steered me pretty well. I'll remember what you said, though, because I have enough for quite a few sessions and definitely want to really go to hyperspace before long.
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ya by all means, take my advice for what its worth. its based on my experiences, and may not be exactly suitable for you. plus, when i started smoking it took me a few times to get the hang of smoking it to where i could effectively get in the dose i was looking for. the act of smoking itself can be a bit tricky at first... takes some getting used to. good luck what ever you do decide, and let the elves know i said hello, when you see them 
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Re: N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question: [Re: wrestler_az]
#8005951 - 02/10/08 06:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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But of course. Thanks for your advice. 
I'll definitely make a post about it, either in here or in trip reports. I've been looking forward to and reading about DMT for a very long time but only recently got my shit together enough to do the extraction. It was way easier than I expected.
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Problems I have had and suggestions:
-Freebase pipes are hard to use (especially for beginners) and are VERY harsh on the lungs.
-A spoon pipe with some inert smoking material is great. A nice big bong is my preference. Spice should be sandwiched with a little bit of plant material on top to avoid flaming the DMT.
-I just throw a bunch of spice in there without measuring it (you know, like an actual spice), because I like guaranteed doses. You want to put more than you will need in there.
-Low dose DMT can have strange bodily effects (yawning, teeth hurting, head pressure, facial tension) that are pretty normal with psychedelics, but can really freak someone out.
-High doses of DMT completely replace would-be frightening somatic symptoms with powerful visuals and incomprehensible experiences.
I hope you had a good time, maybe these suggestions will help you out in the future.
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I agree with Reo Speedwagon and Wrestler. The method to my madness is via "the Bong". My DMT bong has a bubble or meth-pipe bulb bowl. I don't weigh it out on a scale, "just a dab will do ya". I put an amount in the bong that I know is going to give me a big hit. The trick here is to gut your lungs FULL of thick smoke and HOLD it! When the alarm bells and buzzers start ringing and buzzing, continue to hold until you cant any more. Usually for me, its at about that time that I'm not sure if I stopped breathing or not or if I'm alive or dead......... and the voyage has begun! LOL I break through every time smoking DMT and it only takes one hit. Practice makes perfect.
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Smoked a low dose. I don't know what you guys are talking about; the physical effects were overwhelming, but in a good way. As I was coming up I had this crazy-ass chest-orgasm feeling that literally shook me. Can't say it freaked me out.
A lot more happened than chest-orgasms, I posted it in trip reports. Check it out, guys, and thanks again for the advice. I feel WAY more confident exploring higher doses now.
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Thanks for all the input guys. We've decided to sandwich some spice in a bowl between some "plant material" with plenty on top to avoid flaming the spice. Probably use a bong. I looked at my stash again last night and it's more than I thought. Its a pile larger than a pencil eraser. Definitely enough for one very large hit each. We will be doing it tomorrow. I'll post with results. thanks everyone!
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Re: N,N-dimethyl tryptamine Question: [Re: UberDeepName]
#8008625 - 02/11/08 12:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Make sure everyone understands very clearly how DMT should hit... I smoked it with a couple friends last night, and although I got a good low dose out of it, my friends ended up wasting more DMT than me without reaching the same effects because they didn't realize you can't chill on a DMT pipe and pass it around.
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It takes some practice, that's why it's good to have a lot around. Some will always be wasted when trying to learn how to properly do it.
Ice house shaman has it right as well, you need at least one huge thick hit, and you need to be determined to hold it in, or you'll just get the 'acid visuals.'
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I got more than acid visuals. Unfortunately I don't even have a decent dose left over after last night.
Time to do another pull.
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