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OfflineShroomFan
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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: Draigan]
    #8005584 - 02/10/08 05:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: ShroomFan]
    #8005621 - 02/10/08 05:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

there are no such thing as coincidences.


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #8005648 - 02/10/08 05:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

How many times is that gonna be said.


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #8005880 - 02/10/08 06:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

A coincidence requires TWO or more events to have some unusual overlap.

"Water is clear" is not a coincidence. Period.

My VW bus is purple. Is that a coincidence?


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8005906 - 02/10/08 06:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

To be fair, the OP did correlate two claims: water is critical for life, and water is clear. That said, it's not a very effective overlap.

Extending your analogy a touch:
"My VW bus is purple."
"My bedsheets are also purple."

This could be a coincidence, or it could be due to an underlying preference for the color purple.


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8006319 - 02/10/08 08:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
My VW bus is purple.




Queer.

:haha:


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: Plok]
    #8008811 - 02/11/08 01:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, if air wouldn't be clear, life would look absolutely different from now, if at all. Most gases are clear. Aren't most fluids as well ? As they become less dense, the probability to become some kind of 'clearer' rises. Purely physically.
But to put it on the top. Diamonds are some quite clear, and at the same time one of the most dense substances and are so valuable. Coincidence ? :grin:


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: learningtofly]
    #8008822 - 02/11/08 01:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

learningtofly said:
OP, lay off the drugs.




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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8008935 - 02/11/08 02:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

To be fair, the OP did correlate two claims: water is critical for life, and water is clear.




Once again, those are two attributes of the same substance and thus cannot be called a coincidence no matter how it is stretched.

My bus is both long AND purple. Coincidence?


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8008970 - 02/11/08 02:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
My bus is both long AND purple. Coincidence?




I'm not so sure you're talking about your bus...


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #8008985 - 02/11/08 02:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:rimshot:


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8009234 - 02/11/08 03:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Clear water? You mean the murky brown in my water isn't normal?

Also, there are things much more fundamental to life than either oxygen or water. Adenosine triphosphate anyone?


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: Plok]
    #8009947 - 02/11/08 06:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

We have evolved visual apparatuses that see these life sustaining compounds as invisible...

Amazingly, my webcam also evolved to see these compounds as 'invisible'. :rolleyes:


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: Diploid]
    #8009986 - 02/11/08 06:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Diploid said:
We have evolved visual apparatuses that see these life sustaining compounds as invisible...

Amazingly, my webcam also evolved to see these compounds as 'invisible'. :rolleyes:




:rofl:

You don't get it, do you? Your webcam sees them as invisible because it has been programmed to see the same frequency range we do (ie visible light), and reproduce the same.  (Why have a videocamera that doesn't see what we do? ... rhetorical question, i know, IR photography has applications)

A camera could just as easily be made to record a region of the EM spectrum where air or water was virtually opaque... don't know the appropriate lamda-maxes off the top of my head.


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8010074 - 02/11/08 06:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I get it fine, it's just nonsense.

Carbon is as important to life as water. The particular allotrope that life relies on is opaque.

Coincidence? :rolleyes:


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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: Diploid]
    #8010501 - 02/11/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Funyums and Doritos are both salty. Coincidence?

Er, wrong thread... :blush:


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Re: Is it a coincidence that water is clear? [Re: Diploid]
    #8011461 - 02/12/08 12:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Diploid said:
...Carbon...




Jesus H, it took about twenty posts.


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