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Growing san pedros from seed
    #8000137 - 02/09/08 01:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hey, I've ordered 100 San pedro seeds off the internet and they should be here in the next few days. When they come in should I start germinating them or what? And This is my first time attemting to grow cacti btw.


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: bill3744]
    #8000170 - 02/09/08 01:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hello

if you search on here you will find much info on growing cactus from seeds, if you have questions after searching then feel free to ask but you are going to need to do some research and reading first just like we all did when we started.



here is a start

take a pie tin with a clear lid, poke holes in the bottom, fill with soil, soak soil with water, sprinkle seed on top of the soil (do not bury them) , then take a soda cap and gently press them in to the top of the soil, then mist the clear lid with a spray bottle and put the lid on and place under a fluro leave for 3-5 days then open every few days to mist the top of the soil and the lid to keep humidity up.

lots will say to bottom water but it is not needed and a spray bottle will be just fine

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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: royer]
    #8003775 - 02/10/08 07:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Follow those directions and you will have little green blobs in no time at all! trichos are pretty easy and forgiving once past the tiny blob stage It always gives me joy to see them come up.

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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: carpetmunch]
    #8006666 - 02/10/08 09:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

just make sure you steralize the soil in the oven my first time doing this i just got mold all over my tray.

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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: bill3744]
    #8006720 - 02/10/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Hey, I've ordered 100 San pedro seeds off the internet and they should be here in the next few days. When they come in should I start germinating them or what? And This is my first time attemting to grow cacti btw.




I ordered 100 T. peruvianus seeds the other day - we should have a grow-off. The winner gets a Grammy  :stash:


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8007581 - 02/11/08 03:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hey cool. i just put some seeds in yesterday. i'm up for a good ol' fashioned grow off.


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: Artnotwar]
    #8007628 - 02/11/08 03:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If the blob start growing tall and thin give them more light too. You want them to stay short and fat before they start putting on needles.


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: blazed123]
    #8021059 - 02/14/08 04:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

They came in the mail 2 days ago and I've got them germinating right now. Thanks for the help! I'll win the grow off!


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: bill3744]
    #8052852 - 02/21/08 05:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

how are you guys going with your seeds? i just seen my first green blob right now.


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: Artnotwar]
    #8053077 - 02/21/08 06:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I planted 15 peruvian torch seeds a week ago. I put them 3 to a peat pot, and in a plastic bag, one end open, holes in bag..then i covered them and put them in the window for sunlight. I get about 6 hours of direct light through my window.

I have no blobs yet..but they are still young.


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: Artnotwar]
    #8053090 - 02/21/08 06:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I planted 30 of my seeds and have about 15 green sprouts. Most of them are about 5-7mm high and have a split at the top.

Its day 8 for me.

Whats your germ. rate and day count like?


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8055002 - 02/22/08 01:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Top row and bottom right were planted on the 10th



The bottom middle and left have KK919, Astrophytum coahulense, asteria "gonzales, Ariocarpus fissuratus, reutsus. And some L.will, I am not sure but I think they are about 4-5mths old.


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: Nomis]
    #8055176 - 02/22/08 04:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I haven't noticed any growth yet. Hopefully they start soon.


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    #8055462 - 02/22/08 08:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8059403 - 02/23/08 06:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I planted these about... 2 weeks ago.



This is my first attempt at groing cacti, these are T. peruvianus. I used plain sand with some small pebbles and a dash of perlite. I find it keeps the ascarid flies at bay. I have another two boxes. with about 20 in each. Growing cacti from seed is fun! I just sowed another bunch of Echinopsis, Disocactus, Epiphyllum, Lophophora, Rebutia as well.



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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: undergrounder]
    #8072743 - 02/26/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

It's been about a week and half and I only see 3 little green blobs, only a few milimeters tall though.


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8075011 - 02/26/08 10:16 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey, I've ordered 100 San pedro seeds off the internet and they should be here in the next few days. When they come in should I start germinating them or what? And This is my first time attemting to grow cacti btw.




I ordered 100 T. peruvianus seeds the other day - we should have a grow-off. The winner gets a Grammy  :stash:



im about five days into growing about 75 bridgesii seeds, can i get in on this shit? lol

no blobs yet for me =(


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: bill3744]
    #8075180 - 02/26/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Its day 13 here.

I have a 16/30 germ. rate so far.
I have had one seedling die and a possible second on its way out.

And a few of my seedlings have their first spikes!

Whats is most peoples average germ. rate like?


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8075814 - 02/27/08 02:11 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

day 18, i only put down 5 seeds, and only one has popped up.







i wasn't really expecting much at all. i used a tiny pot with a clear plastic container over the top to keep the humidity in, with no bottom heat. i also used propagation sand from bunnings for the soil, and didn't even put any holes in the bottom of the pot. i also just have it sitting on a window ledge for sunlight.

all in all it's growing ok for the shitty setup i have.

i just received a 14 watt heat mat from bunnings and i'm going to buy a good flouro light and a clone dome, then i'll put down the rest of my seeds.


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: Artnotwar]
    #8075840 - 02/27/08 02:29 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)
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day 18, i only put down 5 seeds, and only one has popped up.



i wasn't really expecting much at all. i used a tiny pot with a clear plastic container over the top to keep the humidity in, with no bottom heat. i also used propagation sand from bunnings for the soil, and didn't even put any holes in the bottom of the pot. i also just have it sitting on a window ledge for sunlight.

all in all it's growing ok for the shitty setup i have.

i just received a 14 watt heat mat from bunnings and i'm going to buy a good flouro light and a clone dome, then i'll put down the rest of my seeds.




That setup should be fine, not sure about the light though. But the seeds need to be drenched in water to germinate, so the lack of drainage should be fine. Are you sure you're not keeping them wet enough?

Check out this article on cactus seed prop in sand. He basically floods with water. (attached)


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: undergrounder]
    #8075940 - 02/27/08 03:21 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

not enough light?


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: Artnotwar]
    #8075965 - 02/27/08 03:38 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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not enough light?




I don't know, it depends which direction your window sill faces and whether it gets enough direct sunlight. But i don't think that'd be a real problem with germination, just growing. I don't think bottom heat is really needed unless you're wanting serious germ success. I'd spend the money on a light. I've heard the cheap low wattage CFLs from Bunnings can explode. This is my light.



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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: undergrounder]
    #8085016 - 02/29/08 05:50 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

yeah like i said i'm not really expecting much from this little setup i have at the moment. i put them down with the attitude of 'if they grow, they grow'. i have just bought a heat mat off ebay, and i have now got HEAPS of seeds,

Trichocereus Pereuvianus
Lopophora Williamsii
Bridgesii
Trichocereus Pachanoi
Bridgesii X Trichocereus Pachanoi,
and Scop X Juuls (whatever that is)


i will be sewing these seeds in april with a good light and clone dome.

hey undergrounder, could you send me a pic of the light with it switched off and get the whole thing in the shot?


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: Artnotwar]
    #8102022 - 03/04/08 04:11 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I've noticed about 20 little grren blobs, They're about 1/2 a cm tall. How's everybody elses cacti coming along?


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: bill3744]
    #8102068 - 03/04/08 04:24 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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I've noticed about 20 little grren blobs, They're about 1/2 a cm tall. How's everybody elses cacti coming along?



same here i just counted 23 seedlings from the bridgesii seeds

if all these survive to maturaty, ill be one happy mescalito :awesome::thumbup:


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8104031 - 03/04/08 11:26 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I got 14/30 sprout. Cbf with the rest so i replanted the sprouts into one pot to make way for the mother load. 200 T. peruvianus! :laugh:

Day 2 for them, no action apart for a weed.

My sprouts have heaps of spikes now though!

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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8105202 - 03/05/08 08:49 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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What was everyones germination RATE like??



well ive got 33% germination so far, but im expecting to see at least 50% by the end of the month, as im not using any sort of heating


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8106626 - 03/05/08 03:34 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I planted a total of 25 seeds of T. Peru...not a single sprout.


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    #8108728 - 03/05/08 10:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Couldn't be bothered counting them all untill they are a little more mature. One I counted was 22/66 the other was 43/50


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    #8110161 - 03/06/08 08:54 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Couldn't be bothered counting them all untill they are a little more mature. One I counted was 22/66 the other was 43/50



nice! looks to be about 60% overall!


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8150443 - 03/15/08 05:40 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I've got a 75% germination rate. Most are about 1 CM tall with an average of about 4-6 spikes on the top of each one. They're in front of the window so they're not getting much light. I put a reptile heate mat under the pots


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: bill3744]
    #8150561 - 03/15/08 06:06 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

mine are still in the blob stage, they havent grown any spines yet
how fast are your seedlings growing?


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8150687 - 03/15/08 06:36 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

The ones i planted 30 days ago have heaps of spikes already, one has about 20+ long, thin spikes and is starting to send out its second aerole set, they are all about 8-10mm tall with one exceptional seedling that is abut 15mm tall. They are getting quite fat.

The ones i planted 14 days ago have almost all shed their seeds and are about 5-8mm tall, with their first aeroles but no visible spikes yet. They are still blobs.

Germination rate is about 75%.


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8156181 - 03/17/08 05:13 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I had to move mine out from under the lights and up to the open air in a window because my grow area got an ascarid fly invasion.

But still, they've fattened up a bit, most have developed their first 8 or so tiny spikes.



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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: undergrounder]
    #8175962 - 03/21/08 01:30 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Mine are long but skinny. Should they be fatter?


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Re: Growing san pedros from seed [Re: bill3744]
    #8176643 - 03/21/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Mine are long but skinny. Should they be fatter?



nope they get fatter as they grow


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