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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7997533 - 02/08/08 06:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Are you skilled in wilderness survival?
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7997536 - 02/08/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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How are you going to eat? Hunting, farming, scavenging or stealing?
Where are you going to go, what type of climate?
I have to say Im skeptical if this is really going to give you what you want, and if this is a wise decision at all.
Millions of people have left the wilderness for capitalist societies. They must have had some reason. These third world 'sweat shops' as you call them are filled with people who left farming communities for those jobs. They must have some reason.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
#7997539 - 02/08/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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aNeway2sayHooray said: Are you skilled in wilderness survival?
HA I would obviously do lots of reaserch about the subject and area where i plan to go it might not be permant, but who knows.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: DieCommie]
#7997543 - 02/08/08 06:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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send me a pm, we can be cabin buddies
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: DieCommie]
#7997550 - 02/08/08 06:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Stealing would be contrary to the central idea of why he would do this.Not because stealing is wrong,but because he is still participating in this consumerist society.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7997556 - 02/08/08 06:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i've thought about this a lot recently as well.
i would just go and hope that some higher power will guild you.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7997574 - 02/08/08 06:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know how you feel man. In the future I want to live in the middle of nowhere, maybe some desert or somewhere in Alaska, just cant stand the society we live in. good luck if you do decide to go for it. Even if you just go for a little while it could still be a fantastic experience
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: LayYouIn]
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Maui would be a great place.
Tons of wilderness, plentiful fish, and lots of homeless. I was there recently and it was where i first took a serious look into whether or not i wanted to try it. I thought about it in high school after reading walden but decided agianst it.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: LayYouIn]
#7997581 - 02/08/08 06:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Relying on a higher power would be completely reckless and would get you nowhere.Or on the other hand you may wonder into the desert and create your own polygamist society.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
#7997599 - 02/08/08 06:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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aNeway2sayHooray said: Relying on a higher power would be completely reckless and would get you nowhere.
how do you know this?
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7997601 - 02/08/08 06:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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awesomebastard said: Maui would be a great place.
Tons of wilderness, plentiful fish, and lots of homeless. I was there recently and it was where i first took a serious look into whether or not i wanted to try it. I thought about in high school after reading walden but decided agianst it.
Also look into the big island or kauai
And there is a lepor colony on molokai.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: LayYouIn]
#7997616 - 02/08/08 06:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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aNeway2sayHooray said: Relying on a higher power would be completely reckless and would get you nowhere.
how do you know this?
Is a higher power going to feed you and keep you warm?Its reckless because higher power or not,you are still responsible for your own survival.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
#7997621 - 02/08/08 07:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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aNeway2sayHooray said: Is a higher power going to feed you and keep you warm?Its reckless because higher power or not,you are still responsible for your own survival.
but a higher power may guild me to food and shelter in the wilderness.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7997628 - 02/08/08 07:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think a lot of people in developed countries sometimes have similar feelings. Once you're out there, you will realize that you're full of shit. I can almost guarantee it. It seems unlikely that any of us would have the strength to do such a thing. Nothing personal.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: LayYouIn]
#7997637 - 02/08/08 07:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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aNeway2sayHooray said: Is a higher power going to feed you and keep you warm?Its reckless because higher power or not,you are still responsible for your own survival.
but a higher power may guild me to food and shelter in the wilderness.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: robbyberto]
#7997638 - 02/08/08 07:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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robbyberto said: Once you're out there, you will realize that you're full of shit.
you're probley right...
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: LayYouIn]
#7997641 - 02/08/08 07:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If putting faith into something is what it takes.A person has to have faith in something to survive,whether it's their own life or a higher power,I guess it does not matter.
I was merely saying faith alone in a higher or equal power will not keep a person alive for very long in the wilderness.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
#7997652 - 02/08/08 07:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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aNeway2sayHooray said: I was merely saying faith alone in a higher or equal power will not keep a person alive for very long in the wilderness.
but how could you say for sure?
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: LayYouIn]
#7997684 - 02/08/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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None of the higher powers I have ever heard of like to help people who dont help themselves.
Even the buddha had to learn to take care of himself to survive.He didnt just frolic into the woods and lay down praying for life and enlightenment.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: robbyberto]
#7997691 - 02/08/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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robbyberto said: I think a lot of people in developed countries sometimes have similar feelings. Once you're out there, you will realize that you're full of shit. I can almost guarantee it. It seems unlikely that any of us would have the strength to do such a thing. Nothing personal.
Have you ever read the book walden.
Have you ever looked into the teachings of the buddha or christ. all did exactly what i want to do and found enlightenment exept christ he died.
I feel material possesions distract me too much along with t.v. and the internet, cars, phones, other people in this culture i dont know.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7997706 - 02/08/08 07:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, I create my own morals and ideals. I would read them as valuable pieces of literature, but nothing more. You're seriously full of yourself. If you think you're ready for it, do it. Don't listen to us. Go out and prove us wrong.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7997712 - 02/08/08 07:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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all did exactly what i want to do and found enlightenment exept christ he died.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: robbyberto]
#7997715 - 02/08/08 07:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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robbyberto said: No, I create my own morals and ideals. I would read them as valuable pieces of literature, but nothing more. You're seriously full of yourself. If you think you're ready for it, do it. Don't listen to us. Go out and prove us wrong.
I find it funny that you say im full of myself because i feel guilty about the suffering of people who work in sweat shops etc that we all support.
have you ever been in the heart of the third world. seen the poorest of the poor.
Youre an idiot.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
#7997716 - 02/08/08 07:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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aNeway2sayHooray said: None of the higher powers I have ever heard of like to help people who dont help themselves.
Even the buddha had to learn to take care of himself to survive.He didnt just frolic into the woods and lay down praying for life and enlightenment.
by no means would i just go into the woods and lay down. i would eat shrubs and look for shelter/build shelter...but i would hope that a higher power would guild me in doing so, so that i wouldn't end up eating the wrong thing and dying.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7997730 - 02/08/08 07:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd encourage you to go out and try it it that's what you truly want to do. If you don't like it, society will still be here if you decide to come back. Think over it for a while, but if you really feel compelled, go for it, life is too short not to do what you love.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7997736 - 02/08/08 07:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am honestly quite afraid of doing this kind of thing by myself. I would feel much safer in a consenting group of individuals who wish to depart from the grid together. This way there would be emotional support as well as physical support if there is a variety of survival and leisure skills.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7997747 - 02/08/08 07:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You're an idiot for convincing yourself that you care. If you care so much, why don't you do something about? Poverty is the rule, has been the rule, and will be the rule of life in ninety percent of the world. Why should I feel sorry for them? We both live in a society of universal opulence and we don't know a god damned thing. Appreciate that. Consider yourself lucky and live your life. If you want to help impoverished people, nothing is stopping you. MODS: You can't ban me for that, can you? It was part of our debate.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: AlteredAgain]
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AlteredAgain said: I am honestly quite afraid of doing this kind of thing by myself.
i would ONLY do it alone.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: fear.loathingSF]
#7997753 - 02/08/08 07:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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fear.loathingSF said: I'd encourage you to go out and try it it that's what you truly want to do. If you don't like it, society will still be here if you decide to come back. Think over it for a while, but if you really feel compelled, go for it, life is too short not to do what you love.
Sound advice.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: LayYouIn]
#7997762 - 02/08/08 07:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i would ONLY do it alone.
exactly thats the point.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: LayYouIn]
#7997770 - 02/08/08 07:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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My hat off to you. I trust that I'm capable if I was ever forced in a situation where I would need to do it alone, but I just think that a group exodus would be a little more enjoyable.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7997796 - 02/08/08 07:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
#7997799 - 02/08/08 07:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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how did you get that picture of me.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
#7997819 - 02/08/08 07:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think it would be more like Hatchet than The Beach...
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: LayYouIn]
#7997827 - 02/08/08 07:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I loved the Hatchet book series when I was younger! I had completely forgotten about those books. Totally nostalgic.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
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i've thought about doing something like this since my high school days, but I would definitely need a group of friends to do it with. i can't imagine having no one to talk to and no one to lean on for support.
actually, come to think about it, my psychology class showed a documentary about individuals doing this exact same thing a couple semesters back. i'd forgotten all about that, i wish I could remember the name.
one man gave up on it after 2 years because he noticed that he was talking to himself. one guy was bat shit crazy to begin with and another was able to maintain his sanity by talking to one of those alaskan pilots who visited him once a week. i don't think any of the people in the documentary panned out good except for one man who left civilization with his wife. he was pretty ok.
even Henry David Thoreau wasn't a complete outcast, he visited his friend Emerson who only lived a couple miles a way about once a week for lunch/dinner.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: appleorange]
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lol, i talk to myself all day long, everyday. i like it.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: LayYouIn]
#7997902 - 02/08/08 08:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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obviously he didn't happen to like it.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
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Have you ever tried it? Surviving ain't easy. You should do a trial run, just like 3 or 4 nights to get a feel for what it's like. The reason that so many indigenous tribes were able to live well is because they had a self-regenerative culture in place, as well as intimate knowledge of their surroundings. Winter sucks. They had to dry and preserve food and create surplus in order to get through it.
With that said. I encourage you to try a trial run and see for yourself what it's like.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: AlteredAgain]
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I too have had great dreams of freedom, about reverting back to the wild. It all started when I was about 16, my cousin and I were talking to each other on AIM at like 1 in the morning and we had an hours-long discussion of this fantasy of living in the wild. We devised several shelter designs- underground chambers, tree houses...
And we concluded that aside from hunting deer and the like (bow and arrow, bitch... I'd certainly bring a modern compound bow with me. That would last my whole life. They're made to.) we would fish.
Fishing is the answer to the food question. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime. And I've done plenty of fishing in my life by this point.. including the good ol' fashioned way of cane poles and catching grasshoppers 
I decided that the best thing to do would be to find a stretch of land that possessed a few thriving lakes some miles apart, and travel in between them all throughout the year. I've yet to decide the best place to go for such an idea, but my first thought is the fucking Yukon.
Of course, before this beautiful transition could take place, I will have learned how to preserve meat and make leather, among other basic and essential survival techniques. Including basic blacksmithing.
Virtually all of this could be learned via the internet - of course, one shouldn't go on this alone, and shouldn't dismiss the value of experience. You'd want to have practiced and honed these things to an art before depending on them to save your life.
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That's exactly what I want to do. We have a son - so I would wait for him to be of age, so that he could make his own decision about coming with us and if he did, he'd be a great asset to our little pack.
Going alone is just not a good idea. Not fun.. and not as safe. Especially when it comes to dealing with packs of wolves and such.
I would love nothing more than to go off into the wilderness with my family.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: manyc]
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Bastard, I'm with you. Don't let some of these cats talk you out of it. I've dreamed of doing it for years, and this summer I'm going to go out into the wilderness somewhere, a couple states west of mine, and I'm going to bring some fishing line and hooks, a pot, firestarting tools, a knife and maybe one or two other things. Dried food too, to last me about a week or so. I've made bows before, so I'm pretty sure I could fashion one to take out small game. I'm planning on going out for a couple weeks and trying this. Good luck to you if you decide to do it.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: DragonChaser]
#7999080 - 02/09/08 03:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Some guy who is currently living out of a tent was posting in the mushroom hunting forum not to long ago.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: appleorange]
#7999100 - 02/09/08 03:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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actually, come to think about it, my psychology class showed a documentary about individuals doing this exact same thing a couple semesters back. i'd forgotten all about that, i wish I could remember the name.
one man gave up on it after 2 years because he noticed that he was talking to himself. one guy was bat shit crazy to begin with and another was able to maintain his sanity by talking to one of those alaskan pilots who visited him once a week. i don't think any of the people in the documentary panned out good except for one man who left civilization with his wife. he was pretty ok.
I think the documentary you are talking about is called "Braving Alaska". It's a very good documentary, I watched it on youtube a while back and tried finding it to post it here but it was removed. But if anyone comes across it I suggest you watch it, it gives you a pretty good idea of what wilderness survival is like.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
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get some good boots first.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: druqs]
#7999243 - 02/09/08 06:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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fuck moving into the wilderness just take a trip into india and the tebetian region and at least learn a bit aboyut yourself and the world . forget about the injustices althought they are horrible . but you as an individual you cant really do much about it. allyou cam realy do in tis life is try to become closer to godf
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7999280 - 02/09/08 07:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you won't do it, we've got you hooked on materialism.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
#7999288 - 02/09/08 07:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: AroundtheSon]
#7999290 - 02/09/08 07:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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AroundtheSon said: you won't do it, we've got you hooked on materialism.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7999427 - 02/09/08 09:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I find it funny that you say im full of myself because i feel guilty about the suffering of people who work in sweat shops etc that we all support.
have you ever been in the heart of the third world. seen the poorest of the poor.
Youre an idiot.
what good will you be doing those people if you're alone somewhere in the wilderness? and have you ever spent a night alone in the mountains somewhere? all the research in the world won't prepare you if you have no experience. and honestly i think you misinterpret a lot of thoreau if you think he'd encourage this sort of thing. he had some good writings on solitude and simplicity, but he was a wuss. wilderness scared the shit out of him. he couldn't bear to be away from the comforts of society for more than a few hours at a time. if you really want some good inspiration, read 'one man's wilderness' by richard proeneke. i think this romantic notion of going into the wild on your own is ridiculous. you have to be realistic. there's no "higher power" that will help you survive or guide you to some great revelation about life. i'm not saying there's no spiritual relevance to nature...quite contrary, i've found a lot of fulfillment on days and nights spent in the mountains, away from noise and people, existing with the earth, untouched by humans.. it is very enlightening. but when you start to realize that all things are connected, you also realize you are already part of the "something" you are searching for. it is already in YOU. it is selfish and naive to think nature will just give you something you already have. nature is completely indifferent to your survival. there's no reason to be selfish and stupid, putting your life at risk and worrying the hell out of your family. learn what you are doing, take short backpacking trips, 1 or 2 nights at a time, with a friend, and then see how you feel about the "great outdoors". to quote a great book about a kid you might end up having a lot in common with: happiness is only real when shared.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: LayYouIn]
#7999460 - 02/09/08 09:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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LayYouIn said: by no means would i just go into the woods and lay down. i would eat shrubs and look for shelter/build shelter...but i would hope that a higher power would guild me in doing so, so that i wouldn't end up eating the wrong thing and dying.
how egotistical are you? what "higher power" would have the agenda of keeping you alive, unprepared, in a wild country based on survival of the fittest? i hate to burst your bubble, but nature really doesn't care if you stay alive or not. if you truly wish to be enlightened, stop thinking of yourself as something special. the reality is, you may find enlightenment in the solitude of nature, but if you don't know how to build a proper shelter or find plants that are edible, you will poison yourself or die of hypothermia within a matter of days. any higher power sees no difference between itself or you or the birds that would pick at your bones or the soil that would decompose your body.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: Hendostan]
#7999477 - 02/09/08 09:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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LayYouIn said: by no means would i just go into the woods and lay down. i would eat shrubs and look for shelter/build shelter...but i would hope that a higher power would guild me in doing so, so that i wouldn't end up eating the wrong thing and dying.
how egotistical are you? what "higher power" would have the agenda of keeping you alive, unprepared, in a wild country based on survival of the fittest? i hate to burst your bubble, but nature really doesn't care if you stay alive or not. if you truly wish to be enlightened, stop thinking of yourself as something special. the reality is, you may find enlightenment in the solitude of nature, but if you don't know how to build a proper shelter or find plants that are edible, you will poison yourself or die of hypothermia within a matter of days. any higher power sees no difference between itself or you or the birds that would pick at your bones or the soil that would decompose your body.

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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: niteowl]
#7999682 - 02/09/08 11:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Every body needs to calm down and stop being so pessimistic. If the guy wants to do it, how about offer some survival tips, instead of just being douche bags saying "you wont do it, you cant do it, youre full of shit" and finding other reasons to berate the idea? I'm going to fucking do it this summer, and I hope Bastard gives it a shot somewhere too. Just because you cant do it, doesn't mean we suck as much balls as you. I'm sure either one of us could pull it off.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: DragonChaser]
#7999703 - 02/09/08 11:10 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Every body needs to calm down and stop being so pessimistic. If the guy wants to do it, how about offer some survival tips, instead of just being douche bags saying "you wont do it, you cant do it, youre full of shit" and finding other reasons to berate the idea? I'm going to fucking do it this summer, and I hope Bastard gives it a shot somewhere too. Just because you cant do it, doesn't mean we suck as much balls as you. I'm sure either one of us could pull it off.
Now THAT, was well said.
Yeah. I don't think he was planning on just walking into the woods one day naked and praying to the trees to literally do everything for him. He may have accidentally expressed a sense of naive excitement about the idea of going on this adventure, which most people would not be capable of enduring.
However, if someone believes they can, and are properly prepared, there is absolutely no reason to assume they are incapable just because we're all addicted to this modern lifestyle. Don't tell me you aren't because you are. We're all fucking pathetic addicts. This is evident because we're all posting on a fucking form on the Internet. And I'm sure any one of you who may be reading this and thinking "I'm not addicted to consumerism and materialism..." is probably going to go drive their car around in the next few hours while convincing themselves they're special because they are a little more aware than some people.
It was totally unnecesarry. Even if he did go out without any proper knowledge, he'd learn his lesson.
Life's tests come first - the lessons later. Unless you study. 
Preparation is key, and I'm sure he realizes that. No need to attack him...
I don't know if anyone has heard of Christopher McCandless, but he was one interesting fellow.
"For years, McCandless had dreamed of an "Alaskan Odyssey": he would live off the land, far away from civilization, and keep a journal describing his physical and spiritual progress as he faced the forces of nature. In April 1992 McCandless successfully hitchhiked to Fairbanks, Alaska. He was last seen alive by James Gallien, who gave him a ride from Fairbanks to the Stampede Trail. Gallien was concerned about "Alex", who had little gear and no experience in the Alaskan bush. Gallien tried to persuade Alex to defer his trip, and even offered to drive him to Anchorage to buy suitable equipment. McCandless refused all assistance except for a pair of rubber boots, two tuna melts, and a bag of corn chips."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_McCandless
This is an example of why you should teach yourself a lot about survival before taking on such a feat.
He starved to death.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: manyc]
#7999765 - 02/09/08 11:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Read the Naked into the Wilderness series by John and Geri Mcpherson.
Maybe the SAS survival handbook.
Look up bushcraft, and stuff online.
These sites are good:
http://wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/shelter/index.html http://www.bushcraftuk.com/
DON'T BE A PUSSY! Eat rats and bugs if you have to. You are NOT going to be able to eat deer and rabbit all the time. And even if you did, you need to remember to eat FAT. Fat is the best thing for you. Eat their guts, brains, tallows and whatnot. Not just the meat or you'll starve. And forget about plants unless you are absolutely sure you can eat it. Carbohydrates are the one and only non-essential macronutrient, and if you eat your animals right you shouldn't have any vitamin deficiencies.
I plan on trying out some wilderness living for awhile too. Not because I exactly want to escape society (but I don't want to work at best buy for the next two years to pay for an apartment so I can sleep before going to work at best buy) but because I'm interested. And because I want to travel. I figure if I do things right, I'll be able to move up and down the land without spending as much money as normal backpackers do.
Remember to practice too. I'm going to practice bow drill firing and cordage immediately after the temperature bumps up 10 degrees.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: manyc]
#7999775 - 02/09/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well put Manyc. Preparation is key. Ive read about that guy before, I think they even made a movie or documentary; "Into the Wild" I think its called? I think Alaska would be on the bottom of my list of places to attempt survival in, along with the himalayas and Siberia. I admit that what we propose is no easy task, where we could just toss down our car keys, step away from our keyboards and go hunt and gather. My plan is to go out somewhere with a temperate climate, with a weeks worth of preserved food, and attempt to survive for 3 weeks total, maybe 2 or 3 days walk from civilization. Also some other supplies, a water filter, knife, fishing hooks and line, compass, and some cash in case I need to bail. From there, make a bow, and attempt to hunt and gather. This way, if I get the feeling I'm totally screwed, I will only have to walk for a few days on an empty stomach, before I can find a store. And you're right, no one should try to do this unprepared. Not knowing what you're doing in the unforgiving wilderness can most certainly get you killed. Anyway, thanks for being supportive, and not slamming the idea like everyone else seems to want to do.
On a side note... the first time I do this, I plan on being alone. If it turns out to be something I can handle, I'd like to go out again for a longer time, with maybe a group or 4 people total. That way I won't be driven batshit crazy by myself, and still get to be away from civilization and society. It would be interesting to see how a group of four people interact and bond in a survival scenario. I'm sure they would develop much stronger ties over just a month than most people would develop back in the city.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: DragonChaser]
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: PyroBurns]
#7999785 - 02/09/08 11:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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PyroBurns said: DON'T BE A PUSSY! Eat rats and bugs if you have to. You are NOT going to be able to eat deer and rabbit all the time. And even if you did, you need to remember to eat FAT. Fat is the best thing for you. Eat their guts, brains, tallows and whatnot. Not just the meat or you'll starve. And forget about plants unless you are absolutely sure you can eat it. Carbohydrates are the one and only non-essential macronutrient, and if you eat your animals right you shouldn't have any vitamin deficiencies.
Thats a very good point. You can't go out there expecting to eat food like you would at home. I could definitely see myself eating some termites though... roll them up in wet leaves and give them a slight roast over the fire. I bet they wouldn't be too bad. What parts of animals are bad to eat? Aren't there certain organs that aren't all that good for you?
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: manyc]
#7999792 - 02/09/08 11:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok OP... I have a lot to say to you on this front and I'm not going to try and convince you one way or another... but here are some facts about what you're wanting to do.
First, I have an uncle that went into Alaska for 3 years and lived communally. My uncle is a big guy... well over 300 lbs. If ever someone was said to be gorging on our materialistic society, I'd say it's him. When he came home, he'd lost over 200 lbs, had been attacked by more than one animal, was held at gunpoint b thieves for what little gear and provisions he'd had, and lived in perpetual fear of the wilds around him. Here's the kicker. He's a survivor. He knew to a degree exactly what he was getting into. He was at least somewhat prepared for what he was stepping into. You aren't. And no amount of scouting on the net could possibly prepare you without laying flint to tinder, stripping down game, fishing a lake, or any number of other wilderness survival techniques. In fact, without the society you so loathe, you couldn't even hope to be partially prepared for the excursion. If you didn't have your precious internet, where would you get all this info? If you didn't have a vast library, how would you hope to know half of what you should do?
The romantic notion is thrilling, to be sure. But there is a difference between reality and fiction. You have notions in your head that are clearly romanticised to huge degrees. I urge you to find information about people who've taken the same sort of journey. Speak to those that went before you at the very least and get their advice. If you're so hellbent on doing this, I won't even try to suggest you do otherwise. But, for your well-being, for your family and friends, for all those around you that care about you as a person... if you plan to deprive them of a son, a brother, a friend... then at least do your damn best to insure that he will return in one piece some day. You owe them that.
If you insist on this madness, I wish you the best of luck. But, I'll wager you'll end up like my uncle in the end... you'll lose a lot of weight, probably walk the knife's edge with death on both sides, and return a much graver man for it.
I'm sorry to ramble like this, but after watching someone in my family do exactly what you want to do, I feel a little strongly about it.
Remember that everything you do creates ripples. If you go into the wild, you worry your family and friends. If you donate to a homeless shelter, your ripples benefit others around you. If you opt into philanthropy, you offer the downtrodden that you're so worried about your hand. Think on that... what kind of ripples in the water do you want to make?
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: AroundtheSon]
#7999820 - 02/09/08 11:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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now understand this isnt something i would jump into unprepared.
I plan on doing a few years of practice maybe a week at a time in different environments doing research so on and so fourth.
and who knows maybe a week in the wilderness every once in awhile is all ill need.
This plan was never set in stone it was just something Ive been thinking about, i didn't think everyone would get all sorts of upset.
Also I realize that joining say the peace corp would do poor people much better than this, and this wont do anything for them at all, but at least i wont contribute to that stuff, but that is not the only reason or the biggest reason I would want to take this quest.
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AroundtheSon said: you won't do it, we've got you hooked on materialism.
Ya this is another reason unmentioned before, I am afraid this might be true i kind of want to unhook myself from that form of conditioning. I want to see if i could accomplish what man did for thousands of years. Plus it would be very interesting and i would learn a lot about myself and nature.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: DragonChaser]
#7999822 - 02/09/08 11:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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DragonChaser said: Thats a very good point. You can't go out there expecting to eat food like you would at home. I could definitely see myself eating some termites though... roll them up in wet leaves and give them a slight roast over the fire. I bet they wouldn't be too bad. What parts of animals are bad to eat? Aren't there certain organs that aren't all that good for you?
You want to be careful about the filtration organs of animals in polluted areas, but most likely they'll be fine.
Livers of carniverous animals tend to contain dangerously high amounts of vitamin A.
Stomachs, intestines, and colons probably benefit from processes found in modern day society. Or a really advanced campsite with lots of stuff able to boil, sanitize, and leech out shit and all that.
Eyes, brains, tongues, livers, kidneys, bone marrow, hearts, gizzards, pancrease are all fair game. I don't know much about lungs, and bladders probably would be sick. But they make cool bags I hear.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: BurningBeard]
#7999927 - 02/09/08 12:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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BurningBeard said: First, I have an uncle that went into Alaska for 3 years and lived communally. My uncle is a big guy... well over 300 lbs. If ever someone was said to be gorging on our materialistic society, I'd say it's him. When he came home, he'd lost over 200 lbs, had been attacked by more than one animal, was held at gunpoint b thieves for what little gear and provisions he'd had, and lived in perpetual fear of the wilds around him. Here's the kicker. He's a survivor. He knew to a degree exactly what he was getting into. He was at least somewhat prepared for what he was stepping into. You aren't. And no amount of scouting on the net could possibly prepare you without laying flint to tinder, stripping down game, fishing a lake, or any number of other wilderness survival techniques. In fact, without the society you so loathe, you couldn't even hope to be partially prepared for the excursion. If you didn't have your precious internet, where would you get all this info? If you didn't have a vast library, how would you hope to know half of what you should do?
I don't know why people keep bringing up examples of people trying to survive in Alaska. Its fucking Alaska. I wouldn't live there if I was offered a mansion to live in. I'm talking about doing it in Tenessee, or Alabama... And as for the "where would you get your information without the internet or the library"... Um, we wouldn't be getting the information from anywhere, we'd be living it. Having it passed down to us from our ancestors. It would be our way of life.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7999929 - 02/09/08 12:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If we didn't have the Internet or any of the modern comforts we have, I'm pretty sure we'd be even more apt to survive in the wilderness. It would be the way of the world. Societies would still exist - but they would be developing at a much slower rate due to lack of fast transport and fast communication, and would be relying on the land (the way it SHOULD be.. instead of using all our knowledge to make shit easier and easier for us, making us dependent on technology just to fucking survive) for survival, thus possessing the knowledge necessary to maintain themselves.
It really isn't a good idea to do this on your own. I've never even thought about doing it alone - from the get-go, my plan included my cousin.
It's ludicrous to go on your own, that should go without saying. It would not only be exponentially harder, it would be incredibly more boring and you're liable to go insane. Think about it.
Think about Cast Away. 
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But, for your well-being, for your family and friends, for all those around you that care about you as a person... if you plan to deprive them of a son, a brother, a friend... then at least do your damn best to insure that he will return in one piece some day. You owe them that much.
I believe that's the best point you made. Awesomebastard, this society is selfish and capitalistic. But the idea of straight-up abandoning your brothers (by that I mean all of humanity) is also a very selfish one. I realized this some time after fantasizing about this idea.
Surely, the greatest thing you could do with such an experience is go through with it, but plan to come back. Come back, and share your stories. Try to use your journey as a tool to tell people of nature and try to make them understand that it is sacred, it is our Mother, and that we should respect it.
Not enough people realize this.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: manyc]
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The internet drops the barrier to entry for a lot of activities we otherwise wouldn't have outright access to. It brings knowledge to the masses. That knowledge enables people to do more now than they ever have... without all the tech... let's assume we never had the net in the first place... it would take generations of dead, lots of failed tests, and maybe a little evolution to make it work for us.
But thanks to our knowledge, we are armed to undertake such an arduous journey... armed, but not necessarily prepared.
Remember, knowledge is power.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: BurningBeard]
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Of course, how else could we know certain fungi are poisonous? Some starving mofo ate it, and his tribe learned from his mistake
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: DragonChaser]
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I don't know why people keep bringing up examples of people trying to survive in Alaska. Its fucking Alaska. I wouldn't live there if I was offered a mansion to live in. I'm talking about doing it in Tenessee, or Alabama...
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: manyc]
#8000094 - 02/09/08 01:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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manyc said: I don't know if anyone has heard of Christopher McCandless, but he was one interesting fellow.
That is where my quote came from. Jon Krakauer's book "Into the Wild" was based on his story. Also made a great movie about it recently, but the book is better. One of the last things McCandless wrote in his journal before he starved to death was "happiness is only real when shared". He realized this too late. He was in Alaska, which is tougher country than most, but he didn't trek all that far out. He even stumbled upon an abandoned bus that was used as a backcountry hunting outpost. He had a wood-burning stove, shelter, provisions, dishes, utensils, a gun, etc and he still managed to die, not very far from civilization. The problem was, when he hiked into the wilderness, he crossed a mostly frozen stream that was no more than a trickle. When he decided he'd had enough and was ready to go back to society, he came to the same place and found a raging river instead with no chance of crossing back. Many would've made a different decision, but he went back to his bus and tried to keep surviving and failed. The point is you can't be too prepared. Unexpected things happen and most of us who live a life of comfort can't even comprehend what it is like to try and survive alone in the wilderness. Mt. Washington in New Hampshire is one of the most popular tourist destinations in the country. There's even a road up the mountain and a visitor's center on the summit, yet people still manage to die on it's slopes every year when caught unprepared for the weather. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from experiencing the outdoors, I'm just saying don't be arrogant about it.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
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awesomebastard said: Maui would be a great place.
Tons of wilderness, plentiful fish, and lots of homeless. I was there recently and it was where i first took a serious look into whether or not i wanted to try it. I thought about it in high school after reading walden but decided agianst it.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: Thin White Duke]
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i have lived in an oregon coast wilderness in my early twenties for a month or so a couple of times. it was amazing, but i had some tofu that i would keep in the streams and it got eaten the second day, so i had to catch trout, pick oyster mushrooms, summer chanterelles,huckleberries,salmonberries,thimbleberries,blackberries, strawberries,salal berries, and i learned the salad greens that were good to eat which were seasonally dependent. stuff like fireweed stalks, young salmonberry stalks, young thimbleberry stalks,young blackberry stalks, cress, dandelion, clover roots, cinquefoil roots, and i never got to eat spruce cambium but was willing to, and probably would have if i was there in the winter. i could have also collected clams and muscles but i don't like them. there were also lots of deer and elk but i don't like meat except fish.every day was a constant routine of collecting food, mostly berries. i always did this in the spring-summer months. i always took herb with me. i lived in a tent. i drank water from clean springs which i'm pretty sure i got parasites from. good boots are essential and so are wool blankets which are heavy. i learned alot about myself doing this except for human relations which became more important to me. the animals will never accept you as one of them.i did take cooking oil with me and garlic. when i got sick of it, i would just hike out to the coast and ride my bicycle which i hid in the brush into town or hitch a ride. i really miss those days. i ended up getting really bad tendonitis in my knees on one of my bicycle trips back there and couldn't walk the rest of the summer, had to rent a place in eugene. i'd say do it or you'll always wish you had. you have to get over your fear of being robbed at night or being attacked by a bear or a bigfoot. i had both living near me and i was competing with them for the berries, but they took my tofu so maybe they considered it a trade. they will watch you though and it's kind of creepy. respect your campsite. some bums moved in the year after my last and they left all kinds of trash there which someone i knew moved most of it out, but i would never camp there again due to the disrespect that they showed. maybe i slipped and told the wrong person what i was doing and they thought they could do it too. i was trying to become an animal and wanted to live there forever, but these bums obviously were not. it's easy enough though that you could do it tomorrow and live pretty well. i'd wait another month or two though to let the edible plants start growing, or you could take lots of food and learn what's out there.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: azurite]
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there was this dude who did that in the 80's. he went to alaska and lived in a bus in the wilderness cuase he couldnt hang.
he starved and died after poisoning himself. They made a book and a movie about it. called---- "Into the wild"
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: sui]
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 I like how all of these examples of why its a dumb idea are about people who did it in alaska. Why the fuck would I try this in alaska. I would go somewhere where it was warm year round with a plentiful food source such as the ocean or lakes. I dont know I just get a kick out of this.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#8001206 - 02/09/08 05:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I saw the movie 'Into the Wild'. Dude ended up in Alaska dying of food poisoning cause he ate the wrong berries. True story too. What a dumbass.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: sui]
#8001215 - 02/09/08 05:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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suimush said: there was this dude who did that in the 80's. he went to alaska and lived in a bus in the wilderness cuase he couldnt hang.
he starved and died after poisoning himself. They made a book and a movie about it. called---- "Into the wild"
Haha, you beat me too it.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: bradmassive]
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: rubixcubies]
#8001369 - 02/09/08 05:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alternatively he could go to the fuckin mall!
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
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awesomebastard said: Why the fuck would I try this in alaska. I would go somewhere where it was warm year round with a plentiful food source
most places you go, the food is likely to eat you first
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: sui]
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it was around 1992.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: manyc]
#8001540 - 02/09/08 06:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ive thought about doing this....but not foever. I totally forgot until i read some posts that there is 4 seasons and winter isnt too friendly 
However I should pick some time in spring or fall for at least 2 months where i live in the wild by myself. It would be smart to go out alone if your trying to get spiritual benifits, i would think. With people you would be able to talk and have fun but by yourself you would be forced to deal with your "Inner talk" much quicker.
I will definitly try this someday. I can imagine it now
Hardwork Tripping Eating barley anything Getting out of society
Sounds fun to me!
However Ive had an idea that maybe i would pay someone (a clost friend) to once a week drop off a Cooler of some healthy foods and maybe jerky and stuff
I think it would be smart, safer, and would still give you the isolation for part of the experiance.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
#8001574 - 02/09/08 06:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The guy didn't get poisoned. He wasn't eating any fats and ran out of meats so he died of malnutrition.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: PyroBurns]
#8001600 - 02/09/08 06:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No he actually did get poisoned. He ate a plant that looks very similar to another edible plant and it caused him to be unable to digest any food he ate and caused severe diahrea.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#8001604 - 02/09/08 06:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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awesomebastard said: I had a dream last night.
I was walking through these factories, well more like sweat shops, in third world countries. People being paid almost nothing, murdered, and beaten. women children men.
And there I was walking down a sidewalk with all of these terrible stares coming from these people.
I asked my "spirit guides" (Yes i have two that frequents me in dreams) "why do they hate me" They said, "because they suffer so you can live the lifestyle you do"
I looked down and saw I had a leather duffel bag FULL of money and felt like shit. I wanted to run and give the money to all of these people but knew I couldn't.
End of dream. long story short I have been thinking very seriously about moving into the wilderness somewhere and leaving this capitalistic and selfish society behind. I could find true enlightenment I would be free to think without distraction I just think it might be for the best.
The wilderness is full of selfish animals capitalizing on each other, creatures in constant pursuit of personal gain while giving very little "consideration" to the livelihood of their contemporaries.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: Herbus]
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awesomebastard said: I had a dream last night.
I was walking through these factories, well more like sweat shops, in third world countries. People being paid almost nothing, murdered, and beaten. women children men.
And there I was walking down a sidewalk with all of these terrible stares coming from these people.
I asked my "spirit guides" (Yes i have two that frequents me in dreams) "why do they hate me" They said, "because they suffer so you can live the lifestyle you do"
I looked down and saw I had a leather duffel bag FULL of money and felt like shit. I wanted to run and give the money to all of these people but knew I couldn't.
End of dream. long story short I have been thinking very seriously about moving into the wilderness somewhere and leaving this capitalistic and selfish society behind. I could find true enlightenment I would be free to think without distraction I just think it might be for the best.
The wilderness is full of selfish animals capitalizing on each other, creatures in constant pursuit of personal gain while giving very little "consideration" to the livelihood of their contemporaries.
The fact is, people who run away wish to find some beautiful utopian oasis or paradise. Sometimes they look in themselves, sometimes they like to run away to the wilderness. Eventually they'll have to face facts about the cruel nature of existence and survival.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: bradmassive]
#8001665 - 02/09/08 06:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The fact is, people who run away wish to find some beautiful utopian oasis or paradise. Sometimes they look in themselves, sometimes they like to run away to the wilderness. Eventually they'll have to face facts about the cruel nature of existence and survival.
well I know its not going to be a paradise.
Dont make assumptions buddy.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#8001681 - 02/09/08 06:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why are you going then? You're either running away from something or running too something. Either way you'll have to face reality.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: bradmassive]
#8001746 - 02/09/08 06:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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bradmassive said: Why are you going then? You're either running away from something or running too something. Either way you'll have to face reality.
I actaully gave several reasons as to why i would do this why dont you read the posts before jumping to conclusions.
Oh and by the way whats this "reality" that you speak of since you have such a grand understanding of the universe.
I know hostile the universe is im not some niave 5 year old.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#8001760 - 02/09/08 06:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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All I got from your original post is that you had a dream and you're running away from a capitalistic society and want 'enlightenment'. Sounds pretty naive and immature to me.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: bradmassive]
#8001771 - 02/09/08 06:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think that most people would like to try this but are long past their ability to do so and are sort of jealous by the idea that someone else can do it and they didn't even try. i myself did it but now i have too many responsibilities to go back. i can only camp for a day or two now. you're right though, i hate society and wanted to live in the old growth where it was in no danger of being cut down. i am sort of sorry that i didn't just go and live with and become a treesitter and deal with the real problems in this society. i was hiding from the law though over a marijuana manufacture charge.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
#8001788 - 02/09/08 06:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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CokedUpHobit64 said: No he actually did get poisoned. He ate a plant that looks very similar to another edible plant and it caused him to be unable to digest any food he ate and caused severe diahrea.
Wikipedia said this was false. Then again they could be wrong.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: bradmassive]
#8001806 - 02/09/08 06:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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what about budha? he was running away from the hindu caste system of reality and look what he found.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: azurite]
#8001873 - 02/09/08 07:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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azurite said: what about budha? he was running away from the hindu caste system of reality and look what he found.
Ya its best not to even try and argue with this guy he seems to be a philistine and a troll.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: azurite]
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azurite said: what about budha? he was running away from the hindu caste system of reality and look what he found.
That guy was sheltered from reality by his family. He wasn't trying to run away from society, he was trying to find out wtf was going on in the world and what the world and life was about cause his family wouldn't let him know shit. Only after his 'englitenment' (which happened after years and years of discipline) did he shit all over the caste system.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
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azurite said: what about budha? he was running away from the hindu caste system of reality and look what he found.
Ya its best not to even try and argue with this guy he seems to be a philistine and a troll.
He wasn't arguing, he asked an intelligent question. You're the only philistine with your hippie bullshit.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: bradmassive]
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bradmassive said: All I got from your original post is that you had a dream and you're running away from a capitalistic society and want 'enlightenment'. Sounds pretty naive and immature to me.
To AB: Seriously, kid. Wake up. You're not the first one to think like this. You're not a special little snow flake. You're going to forget the idealistic crap and go along with society like the rest of us and the sooner you do, the better. I encourage you to do it. To prove us wrong. It would be inspiring and astounding.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: robbyberto]
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bradmassive said: All I got from your original post is that you had a dream and you're running away from a capitalistic society and want 'enlightenment'. Sounds pretty naive and immature to me.
Seriously, kid. Wake up. You're not the first one to think like this. You're not a special little snow flake. You're going to forget the idealistic crap and go along with society like the rest of us and the sooner you do, the better. I encourage you to do it. To prove us wrong. It would be inspiring and astounding.
You sure that post was for me?
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: bradmassive]
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No, it was for awesomebastard. I just needed your quote and didn't feel like copying it and replying to him.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: bradmassive]
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azurite said: what about budha? he was running away from the hindu caste system of reality and look what he found.
Ya its best not to even try and argue with this guy he seems to be a philistine and a troll.
He wasn't arguing, he asked an intelligent question. You're the only philistine with your hippie bullshit.
haha I was agreeing with him and bashing you.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: robbyberto]
#8003967 - 02/10/08 09:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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robbyberto said: To AB: Seriously, kid. Wake up. You're not the first one to think like this. You're not a special little snow flake. You're going to forget the idealistic crap and go along with society like the rest of us and the sooner you do, the better. I encourage you to do it. To prove us wrong. It would be inspiring and astounding.
Thats exactly the type of lay-down-and-take-a-dick-in-the-ass attitude that explains why our society today is so shitty. The guy wants to do something that, while its not an original idea, probably .2 percent of Americans actually try. But no, you're telling him to forget his idealistic thoughts and plans? To lay down and conform to our disgusting, disconnected, thoughtless society? Right. That sounds like good advice to me. The only part of what you said that I agree with is the end where you tell him to do it.
Once again, I don't know why people are being so discouraging. Are you really that unhappy with your own lives that you have to berate and tear down someone who has a plan of escape? You're like life inmates ripping on someone elses plan of escape, because you've lost hope and you don't want to see anyone else clutching to any hope or shred of success escaping.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: DragonChaser]
#8003991 - 02/10/08 09:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have encouraged him in several of my posts, but why does everyone here have to coddle his idealistic bullshit?
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: robbyberto]
#8004042 - 02/10/08 10:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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robbyberto said: I have encouraged him in several of my posts, but why does everyone here have to coddle his idealistic bullshit?
Agreed.
Even if he does go "into the wild", it will only be for a few days, a week tops. How is that going to change anything? It won't. At best he will understand why we have built our society this way....it is easier than trying to go it alone.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: robbyberto]
#8004048 - 02/10/08 10:06 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry, that post wasn't meant to be solely directed at you, but more at everyone being negative in this thread and I happened to quote you since you were one of the last people posting.
I'll admit he is being idealistic, and so am I in wishing to go live in the wild. But you know what? If we, or anyone else on this board tries it, they'll get woken up. They'll see what its really like, and be able to report back, and at least their points of view will have changed. We'll either want it more, or see that its not really what we wanted or expected at all. Right now, I want it desperately, and I'm going to try it this summer. Whether I get a rude awakening or not, at least I'll be happy in knowing I tried, and I'll know if its something I want to repeat. And, I wont have to daydream about it anymore.
But, ever since I was a kid, like 8 years old, I've felt like we've been living the wrong way, and have always wanted to go 'into the wild'. I think its something I need to do, and that I'm capable of. Anyhow, I'll report back this summer.
Hell, at least its something to do
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: robbyberto]
#8004220 - 02/10/08 11:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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robbyberto said: I have encouraged him in several of my posts, but why does everyone here have to coddle his idealistic bullshit?
What's so idealistic about it that makes it bullshit? Look at yourself, you're hating on someone who wants to live in the nature that Mother Earth laid out for us, the nature that YOUR ancestors came from.
If you think it's such bullshit, then why have you encouraged him? I doubt that there were any pure reasons behind that decision. That's probably the type of thing he wants to escape; the fact that not everybody gets along and all people seem to do for each other is hold each other back and talk behind each others' backs.
My advice would be that retreating away from society should be a last resort. You might die, unless you've practiced certain things that can help you, and there are many wonderful, if not at least interesting aspects of living in this society that you've not experienced, and may be worth while. Leaving would mean you're leaving your family, friends, ego; think about it.
How old are you?
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: niteowl]
#8004517 - 02/10/08 12:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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niteowl said: Even if he does go "into the wild", it will only be for a few days, a week tops. How is that going to change anything? It won't. At best he will understand why we have built our society this way....it is easier than trying to go it alone.
Thank you Mister Wizard with your mystical future-telling abilities. Please look into my future and let me know what it holds as well. Have you been elected to public office yet? With your fount of knowledge of what people will or will not learn from their experiences, I'm sure a lot could happen with you leading us.
This experience could teach a lot, either way. Even if you only lasted a few days the first time out, you get an idea of what you need to do differently the next time.
So many of you are talking shit, saying it can't be done, but if you read up a few posts, theres a guy who used to do it for a month every summer. It can be done.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: DragonChaser]
#8004565 - 02/10/08 12:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Never said that it couldn't be done, mate, just that it isn't likely to happen. And even if it does happen, it won't change anything, people in third world nations will still be starving.
The only change will be in his mind.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: niteowl]
#8004765 - 02/10/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Isn't that where the change needs to begin though?
At least he won't be driving around using gas, or using cheap throw-away Chinese sweat-shop made items... If everyone in our cheap material driven country (US) went without processed food, or using gas, or electricity for one month every year, or every couple years, or at least once in their lifetime, it would make a difference. If not through the direct effects of being one less consumer for that month, then definitely through the effects of learning how precious everything we have is.
Once we learn how to have nothing, then we can really learn how to value everything we have, and not to waste, or to consume more than we actually need. If we really had to work for our food (hunt or gather), and could learn to value it, instead of just going through a drivethrough or stopping at the supermarket on our way home, maybe our nation wouldn't be so damn gluttonous and wasteful. Just my thoughts.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: DragonChaser]
#8005223 - 02/10/08 04:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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DragonChaser said: Isn't that where the change needs to begin though?
At least he won't be driving around using gas, or using cheap throw-away Chinese sweat-shop made items... If everyone in our cheap material driven country (US) went without processed food, or using gas, or electricity for one month every year, or every couple years, or at least once in their lifetime, it would make a difference. If not through the direct effects of being one less consumer for that month, then definitely through the effects of learning how precious everything we have is.
Once we learn how to have nothing, then we can really learn how to value everything we have, and not to waste, or to consume more than we actually need. If we really had to work for our food (hunt or gather), and could learn to value it, instead of just going through a drivethrough or stopping at the supermarket on our way home, maybe our nation wouldn't be so damn gluttonous and wasteful. Just my thoughts.
Chase on, man!
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: Poid]
#8017227 - 02/13/08 11:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Posted by Shroom Empire in the news feed... thought it was relevant.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8017112
Rainbow Family warned to leave Forest campsite
BY JOE VANHOOSE STAR-BANNER OCALA NATIONAL FOREST - Hundreds of Rainbow Family members started gathering deep inside the Ocala National Forest last week. Many who found their way down Paisley Road to a sandy path around a little spot called Duck Pond - some 10 miles south of State Road 40 - might have seen a notice posted high on a pine tree.
"This is an ILLEGAL gathering of 75 persons or more without a permit," the notice put up by the U.S. Forest Service reads. "The max penalty is six months in prison and/or a $5,000 fine."
But Monday came and went, and the Rainbow Family remained, determined not to give up the government land they settled on.
"We've met here for 13 years, and now they're treating us like criminals," said a woman who identified herself by her Rainbow name, Indigo. She was keeping an eye out for any Forest Service Law Enforcement vehicles Monday afternoon.
Sure enough, three Forest Service sport utility vehicles pulled down the path around 2 p.m.
"Six-point-o rolling through the Rainbow land," she yelled out to alert her brethren.
A SIMPLER LIFE The Rainbow Family claims to be the largest non-organization of non-members in the world. Walking the pine-covered paths in the Ocala National Forest, the claim seems to be true. Old vans and cars with license plates from California and Ohio park next to a makeshift tent shading Carolinians and Virginians from the sun.
Senior citizens, college students and families sit around the same drum circle, building fires and playing guitars. Even infants and young children are here.
Why? "A lot of people are here for spiritual growth," said the Rev. James William Middlestadt, who started a chapter of Loving Light Ministries. "We come together to gain enlightenment."
"We're here to live simply, that's all," Loki said. "We want to be without the complexities of Babylon."
Complex their lives are not. Aside from drum beats and guitar strumming, silence surrounds the three-mile stretch of makeshift settlement that weaves its way through woods and meadows. There isn't a power line, strip of asphalt or alarm clock to be found.
The hippie-like group that professes love, the earth and mellow vibes, has at times run afoul of the law. Last year, a man was badly beaten at a campsite by a man known only as "Buddha." Arrests, sometimes on a large scale, have included charges involving drugs, nudity and traffic offenses, including driving under the influence.
The family communicates via walkie-talkies and exchanging shouts, but everyone seems to know what is happening from one end to the other - especially when law enforcement officers show up.
ILLEGAL GATHERING Many in the Rainbow Family have no plans of leaving Duck Pond, even if they get ticketed upward of $250 a day. A couple dozen in the family already have been ticketed for assembling illegally this week.
"As of right now, this is an illegal gathering," Forest Service Officer James Watson said to the group, many of whom answered with a chorus of "We love you." "If you are here when we come back, we will be issuing tickets."
Pat Tooley, the special uses administrator for the Forest Services, said a member of the Rainbow Family filed an application for a permit Monday morning. She drove the second Forest Service SUV as Rainbow Family members crowded around looking for an explanation.
"It's regulatory that a group of 75 or more requires a permit," Tooley said. "We have to make sure the land here does not get overused.
"That applies to anyone who comes into the National Forest. We will review the area for resource issues, but we have five areas designated for big groups. This isn't one of them."
Many in the Rainbow Family questioned officers on where the regulations and rules were posted.
"It's your responsibility to find out what's legal and what the rules are," Watson answered. "We have all the rules posted in our offices."
After Tooley left, Forest Service officers came back to inform everyone that they had been approved to assemble at Syracuse Island, about 20 miles north. All Rainbow Family members must leave Duck Pond by 4 p.m. today and make the pilgrimage to the new location.
That news and the officers were met with harmonizing choruses of John Lennon and Bob Marley songs. About 50 members banded together on fallen trees around the Forest Services vehicles, raising their connected hands high as they sang about peace and love.
"I have the constitutional right to assemble," said Juniper, who added this was her first gathering. "That's why I'm still here.
"They can write us tickets, but we don't need to leave. This is our home."
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