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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: DragonChaser]
#7999822 - 02/09/08 11:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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DragonChaser said: Thats a very good point. You can't go out there expecting to eat food like you would at home. I could definitely see myself eating some termites though... roll them up in wet leaves and give them a slight roast over the fire. I bet they wouldn't be too bad. What parts of animals are bad to eat? Aren't there certain organs that aren't all that good for you?
You want to be careful about the filtration organs of animals in polluted areas, but most likely they'll be fine.
Livers of carniverous animals tend to contain dangerously high amounts of vitamin A.
Stomachs, intestines, and colons probably benefit from processes found in modern day society. Or a really advanced campsite with lots of stuff able to boil, sanitize, and leech out shit and all that.
Eyes, brains, tongues, livers, kidneys, bone marrow, hearts, gizzards, pancrease are all fair game. I don't know much about lungs, and bladders probably would be sick. But they make cool bags I hear.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: BurningBeard]
#7999927 - 02/09/08 12:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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BurningBeard said: First, I have an uncle that went into Alaska for 3 years and lived communally. My uncle is a big guy... well over 300 lbs. If ever someone was said to be gorging on our materialistic society, I'd say it's him. When he came home, he'd lost over 200 lbs, had been attacked by more than one animal, was held at gunpoint b thieves for what little gear and provisions he'd had, and lived in perpetual fear of the wilds around him. Here's the kicker. He's a survivor. He knew to a degree exactly what he was getting into. He was at least somewhat prepared for what he was stepping into. You aren't. And no amount of scouting on the net could possibly prepare you without laying flint to tinder, stripping down game, fishing a lake, or any number of other wilderness survival techniques. In fact, without the society you so loathe, you couldn't even hope to be partially prepared for the excursion. If you didn't have your precious internet, where would you get all this info? If you didn't have a vast library, how would you hope to know half of what you should do?
I don't know why people keep bringing up examples of people trying to survive in Alaska. Its fucking Alaska. I wouldn't live there if I was offered a mansion to live in. I'm talking about doing it in Tenessee, or Alabama... And as for the "where would you get your information without the internet or the library"... Um, we wouldn't be getting the information from anywhere, we'd be living it. Having it passed down to us from our ancestors. It would be our way of life.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#7999929 - 02/09/08 12:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If we didn't have the Internet or any of the modern comforts we have, I'm pretty sure we'd be even more apt to survive in the wilderness. It would be the way of the world. Societies would still exist - but they would be developing at a much slower rate due to lack of fast transport and fast communication, and would be relying on the land (the way it SHOULD be.. instead of using all our knowledge to make shit easier and easier for us, making us dependent on technology just to fucking survive) for survival, thus possessing the knowledge necessary to maintain themselves.
It really isn't a good idea to do this on your own. I've never even thought about doing it alone - from the get-go, my plan included my cousin.
It's ludicrous to go on your own, that should go without saying. It would not only be exponentially harder, it would be incredibly more boring and you're liable to go insane. Think about it.
Think about Cast Away. 
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I believe that's the best point you made. Awesomebastard, this society is selfish and capitalistic. But the idea of straight-up abandoning your brothers (by that I mean all of humanity) is also a very selfish one. I realized this some time after fantasizing about this idea.
Surely, the greatest thing you could do with such an experience is go through with it, but plan to come back. Come back, and share your stories. Try to use your journey as a tool to tell people of nature and try to make them understand that it is sacred, it is our Mother, and that we should respect it.
Not enough people realize this.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: manyc]
#7999950 - 02/09/08 12:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The internet drops the barrier to entry for a lot of activities we otherwise wouldn't have outright access to. It brings knowledge to the masses. That knowledge enables people to do more now than they ever have... without all the tech... let's assume we never had the net in the first place... it would take generations of dead, lots of failed tests, and maybe a little evolution to make it work for us.
But thanks to our knowledge, we are armed to undertake such an arduous journey... armed, but not necessarily prepared.
Remember, knowledge is power.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: BurningBeard]
#7999959 - 02/09/08 12:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Of course, how else could we know certain fungi are poisonous? Some starving mofo ate it, and his tribe learned from his mistake
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: DragonChaser]
#8000082 - 02/09/08 01:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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DragonChaser said:
I don't know why people keep bringing up examples of people trying to survive in Alaska. Its fucking Alaska. I wouldn't live there if I was offered a mansion to live in. I'm talking about doing it in Tenessee, or Alabama...
all im thinking rite now is Deliverance
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: manyc]
#8000094 - 02/09/08 01:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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manyc said: I don't know if anyone has heard of Christopher McCandless, but he was one interesting fellow.
That is where my quote came from. Jon Krakauer's book "Into the Wild" was based on his story. Also made a great movie about it recently, but the book is better. One of the last things McCandless wrote in his journal before he starved to death was "happiness is only real when shared". He realized this too late. He was in Alaska, which is tougher country than most, but he didn't trek all that far out. He even stumbled upon an abandoned bus that was used as a backcountry hunting outpost. He had a wood-burning stove, shelter, provisions, dishes, utensils, a gun, etc and he still managed to die, not very far from civilization. The problem was, when he hiked into the wilderness, he crossed a mostly frozen stream that was no more than a trickle. When he decided he'd had enough and was ready to go back to society, he came to the same place and found a raging river instead with no chance of crossing back. Many would've made a different decision, but he went back to his bus and tried to keep surviving and failed. The point is you can't be too prepared. Unexpected things happen and most of us who live a life of comfort can't even comprehend what it is like to try and survive alone in the wilderness. Mt. Washington in New Hampshire is one of the most popular tourist destinations in the country. There's even a road up the mountain and a visitor's center on the summit, yet people still manage to die on it's slopes every year when caught unprepared for the weather. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from experiencing the outdoors, I'm just saying don't be arrogant about it.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#8000391 - 02/09/08 02:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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awesomebastard said: Maui would be a great place.
Tons of wilderness, plentiful fish, and lots of homeless. I was there recently and it was where i first took a serious look into whether or not i wanted to try it. I thought about it in high school after reading walden but decided agianst it.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: Thin White Duke]
#8001037 - 02/09/08 04:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i have lived in an oregon coast wilderness in my early twenties for a month or so a couple of times. it was amazing, but i had some tofu that i would keep in the streams and it got eaten the second day, so i had to catch trout, pick oyster mushrooms, summer chanterelles,huckleberries,salmonberries,thimbleberries,blackberries, strawberries,salal berries, and i learned the salad greens that were good to eat which were seasonally dependent. stuff like fireweed stalks, young salmonberry stalks, young thimbleberry stalks,young blackberry stalks, cress, dandelion, clover roots, cinquefoil roots, and i never got to eat spruce cambium but was willing to, and probably would have if i was there in the winter. i could have also collected clams and muscles but i don't like them. there were also lots of deer and elk but i don't like meat except fish.every day was a constant routine of collecting food, mostly berries. i always did this in the spring-summer months. i always took herb with me. i lived in a tent. i drank water from clean springs which i'm pretty sure i got parasites from. good boots are essential and so are wool blankets which are heavy. i learned alot about myself doing this except for human relations which became more important to me. the animals will never accept you as one of them.i did take cooking oil with me and garlic. when i got sick of it, i would just hike out to the coast and ride my bicycle which i hid in the brush into town or hitch a ride. i really miss those days. i ended up getting really bad tendonitis in my knees on one of my bicycle trips back there and couldn't walk the rest of the summer, had to rent a place in eugene. i'd say do it or you'll always wish you had. you have to get over your fear of being robbed at night or being attacked by a bear or a bigfoot. i had both living near me and i was competing with them for the berries, but they took my tofu so maybe they considered it a trade. they will watch you though and it's kind of creepy. respect your campsite. some bums moved in the year after my last and they left all kinds of trash there which someone i knew moved most of it out, but i would never camp there again due to the disrespect that they showed. maybe i slipped and told the wrong person what i was doing and they thought they could do it too. i was trying to become an animal and wanted to live there forever, but these bums obviously were not. it's easy enough though that you could do it tomorrow and live pretty well. i'd wait another month or two though to let the edible plants start growing, or you could take lots of food and learn what's out there.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: azurite]
#8001074 - 02/09/08 04:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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there was this dude who did that in the 80's. he went to alaska and lived in a bus in the wilderness cuase he couldnt hang.
he starved and died after poisoning himself. They made a book and a movie about it. called---- "Into the wild"
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: sui]
#8001126 - 02/09/08 05:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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 I like how all of these examples of why its a dumb idea are about people who did it in alaska. Why the fuck would I try this in alaska. I would go somewhere where it was warm year round with a plentiful food source such as the ocean or lakes. I dont know I just get a kick out of this.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#8001206 - 02/09/08 05:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I saw the movie 'Into the Wild'. Dude ended up in Alaska dying of food poisoning cause he ate the wrong berries. True story too. What a dumbass.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: sui]
#8001215 - 02/09/08 05:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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suimush said: there was this dude who did that in the 80's. he went to alaska and lived in a bus in the wilderness cuase he couldnt hang.
he starved and died after poisoning himself. They made a book and a movie about it. called---- "Into the wild"
Haha, you beat me too it.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: bradmassive]
#8001360 - 02/09/08 05:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: rubixcubies]
#8001369 - 02/09/08 05:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alternatively he could go to the fuckin mall!
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: awesomebastard]
#8001420 - 02/09/08 05:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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awesomebastard said: Why the fuck would I try this in alaska. I would go somewhere where it was warm year round with a plentiful food source
most places you go, the food is likely to eat you first
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: sui]
#8001437 - 02/09/08 05:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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suimush said: there was this dude who did that in the 80's.
it was around 1992.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: manyc]
#8001540 - 02/09/08 06:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ive thought about doing this....but not foever. I totally forgot until i read some posts that there is 4 seasons and winter isnt too friendly 
However I should pick some time in spring or fall for at least 2 months where i live in the wild by myself. It would be smart to go out alone if your trying to get spiritual benifits, i would think. With people you would be able to talk and have fun but by yourself you would be forced to deal with your "Inner talk" much quicker.
I will definitly try this someday. I can imagine it now
Hardwork Tripping Eating barley anything Getting out of society
Sounds fun to me!
However Ive had an idea that maybe i would pay someone (a clost friend) to once a week drop off a Cooler of some healthy foods and maybe jerky and stuff
I think it would be smart, safer, and would still give you the isolation for part of the experiance.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
#8001574 - 02/09/08 06:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The guy didn't get poisoned. He wasn't eating any fats and ran out of meats so he died of malnutrition.
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Re: I am thinking of going "into the wild" [Re: PyroBurns]
#8001600 - 02/09/08 06:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No he actually did get poisoned. He ate a plant that looks very similar to another edible plant and it caused him to be unable to digest any food he ate and caused severe diahrea.
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