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You guys dunk after birthing or wait?
    #7991339 - 02/07/08 11:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ive had mixed success in my Mycology days.
So far only tried BRF as its the easiest.

Now keep in mind I live back off the road on a dirt drive in the country
dust is everywhere and I believe contams as well

Ive had everything from 6 green jars to only losing one jar after a flush or 2

Ive been outta the game for about a year

Now I remembered that last time I dunked right after birthing I lost 4 right away and the other 2 later ( no shroomies!!)

I also remember the time I didnt dunk I got success

now maybe its the country water or leaving them int eh fridge overnight

I dunno

but I checked and my new 6 jars have all germinated

and Im tryin to decide what to do for best results?

any input appreciated
PS have a hepa filter that I got 2 months ago runnin

hoping to suck up all dust and moldies ( or maybe help)

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Re: You guys dunk after birthing or wait? [Re: civicracerx7]
    #7991468 - 02/07/08 12:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

dunk&roll in verm after birthing.

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Re: You guys dunk after birthing or wait? [Re: beatyou]
    #7991505 - 02/07/08 12:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Make sure your jars have looked fully colonized... for SEVEN days... before birthing. This will add contam defense, by insuring a fully formed mycelial network... which is ready to pin SOON.

Also, dunk for 24 hours in with 3% hydrogen peroxide or 10% bleach if it makes you feel better. THEN roll in DRY verm.

Since BRF is boiled, not cooked in a pressure cooker, some contams may survive sterilization. Perhaps a pc would help your success rate as well.

Once colonized, a cake SHOULD be pretty damn contam proof, at least for a few weeks.


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Edited by Rose (02/07/08 05:09 PM)

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Re: You guys dunk after birthing or wait? [Re: Rose]
    #7991679 - 02/07/08 01:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If i were you i wouldn't use the bleach or peroxide, It weakens the myc a little and takes some time for it to recover, well i know peroxide does, but i would imagine bleach would deff hurt it a bit.Just dunk and roll in verm after birthing, best way to do it. If you get alot of contams you should invest in a cheap glove box. Heres an easy to make one pretty cheap also.
Glove Box

Edited by budzeno (02/07/08 01:18 PM)

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Re: You guys dunk after birthing or wait? [Re: budzeno]
    #7991762 - 02/07/08 01:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Do a search before speculating. Bleach works.

Bleach and H2O2 are valid dunk teks... but I don't think they are needed. The key is the Bleach or H2O2 kills many potential contams while allowing myc to survive.

Getting your cakes sterilized, injected and colonized... THAT is where sterile procedure matters most. Once you are ready to birth, your sterile procedure is MUCH LESS IMPORTANT.

I suspect civic's problems... in the past, came from a weak point in his sterile procedure BEFORE birthing. Either his contams were already there in the cakes, just waiting to be birthed to show themselves... or he birthed several cakes a bit too early.

If your cake is NOT fully colonized, a dunk will almost certainly lead to, or aid, contamination.


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Re: You guys dunk after birthing or wait? [Re: Rose]
    #7991958 - 02/07/08 02:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i washed my hands and then dunked freshly birthed pint cakes in a pot of water in the fridge overnight on my first grow, and nothing contammed until about the 5th flush. and this was in a very fungus-unfriendly environment (buddy's dirty apartment closet). if you use clean equip and put a lid on your dunking container i think you should be fine

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Re: You guys dunk after birthing or wait? [Re: dudemanstan]
    #7993199 - 02/07/08 06:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yup, its as simple as waiting till they are a week past full colonization. dunk in cold water in a dark enviroment for 24 hrs. roll in verm then spary the verm 1/2 hr after you roll them to keep the vem moist. then continue to spray the bejeezez out of your cakes and you will be rewarded.


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Re: You guys dunk after birthing or wait? [Re: johnnyboy]
    #7997149 - 02/08/08 05:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

what great advice!

yep I always was SO anxious as soon as I saw 100%
I birthed then!!

Ill let it clonize then wait 7 more days to birth

what If u dunk when pins are forming?


thanks!

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