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other bulk substrates
    #7996633 - 02/08/08 03:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I can't find Coir, Poop (unless it's human), or straw (farm hunt pending) because it's winter and unless your growing pot the local AG store won't understand your needs. I'm out of ideas for bulk substrates. I'm spawning on rye grains currently (just g2ged 1 into 10) but I don't want to have to just case afterward. Any alternate bulk substrate would be nice. I don't think I can get straw I, but I could definitely get hay. Another post said hay was prone to contaminants. Ideas?

If no body offers me an idea I may be forced to commute to the next town over (a long distance) to look for supplies and I'm already nearly broke I don't know how much I can afford.


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"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: ScavengerType]
    #7996680 - 02/08/08 03:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Go to a Petco store and get Reptile bedding, same thing as coir.


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #7996692 - 02/08/08 03:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Why not buy some bricks of coir online, shouldnt be to much to ship it.


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: islander20]
    #7997775 - 02/08/08 07:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

1 "Petco" as you call it doesn't exist around here and I already looked at the local pet store first all they had was bark beading for reptiles.

2 ordering things online is nearly impossible not in America (I spent a lot of time looking for a Canadian supplier of Gypsum) and distributors almost always deliver by mail instead of by bus thus making the expense based on weight and not size (also meaning it gets delivered to my apartment door rather than me discreetly picking it up). The shipping prices in Canada are between 2 and 3 times what they cost in America because nobody ships with greyhound Canada. It would be cheaper for me to drive to the next town than to order online.

Maybe I can get a family member living in another city to help though and send it by bus.


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"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: ScavengerType]
    #7998129 - 02/08/08 09:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)



100% vermiculite substrate! Right pic cased with verm also.

You can get a 4 cubic feet bag for under 10$ and I am sure if you needed it shipped it wouldn't be too much more. I can make 50 or so monos outa one bag.


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: Civ]
    #7998484 - 02/08/08 11:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:confused: only vermiculite? whats where your spawn ratios?


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: durban_poison]
    #7998737 - 02/09/08 12:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, lets hear some details.


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: Civ]
    #7998991 - 02/09/08 01:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Civ said:


100% vermiculite substrate! Right pic cased with verm also.

You can get a 4 cubic feet bag for under 10$ and I am sure if you needed it shipped it wouldn't be too much more. I can make 50 or so monos outa one bag.





alright, position him so we don't have any problems with ricochet, and i want three men with rifles positioned accordingly. on my command gentlemen.


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: hazey]
    #7999017 - 02/09/08 02:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

inoculation

colonization

Substrate

Spawn

Casing


If everyone could use these terms correctly, life would be beautiful.


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: Crasher]
    #7999025 - 02/09/08 02:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

that bathroom on your signature sure does remind me of my days in Miami.


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: Crasher]
    #7999029 - 02/09/08 02:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Crasher said:
inoculation

colonization

Substrate

Spawn

Casing


If everyone could use these terms correctly, life would be beautiful.




yes it would. Op, i still say you shouldnt have a problem finding coir in canada or online, alot of places have no problem shipping to canada. your like our younger less attractive brother. i know its impossible to find hpoo at farms right now in the north. i tryed yesterday and it was a solid brick.


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: blood4blood]
    #7999111 - 02/09/08 04:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

the problem is that shipping for online orders is so expensive It precludes the possibility. I've crunched all the numbers even found a hpoo distributor on this sight that was in Canada and I still can't get a product that is cheep enough delivered to undercut the cost of organic rye grain. Ordering online will not work for me.

[and nobody has straw either]


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"Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?"
"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: ScavengerType]
    #7999114 - 02/09/08 04:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Case the grain in verm or peat and...

Wait till spring.

If you don't want to case... may I suggest the pf tek. :tongue:


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: Rose]
    #7999326 - 02/09/08 07:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

coir comes in either bricks or bags

the bricks are compressed and expands to about seven liters, the bags of pre-hydrated coir are a total rip off, I picked one up recently and had enough for two small bucket tubs.... cost me $10 when three bricks that would last a month costs $12.

The bricks are called echo earth

the bag.... forget about the bags, Total scam.

I should also add, vermiculite and coffee grounds will work with some great results as well, coffee grounds alone do not hold enough moisture for more then 2 flushes.


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: ScavengerType]
    #7999461 - 02/09/08 09:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

the other alternative it just straight grain Ive seen pretty good flushes for i think oatman2000 with his TC strain? casing and spawning isnt realllllllly a necessity esp if you cant find anything. if your really desperate you can use lawn clippings {i think waxigreen did that one]. or shredded hemp would work too, anything thats organic and has a cellulose structure would work really theres no set rules on how you HAVE to grow cubes man, woodchips are even possible man like the pics in my signature of a grow i did a few summers back.

any way you go dude i wish you good luck :thumbup:


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: myCo_psyCo]
    #7999502 - 02/09/08 09:40 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

you got walmart right

things at walmart that gets me by in the winter
worm casting, peat moss, polyfil, mixing bowls, verm, etc.

you got lowes or homedepot
peat moss, w.castings, limestone, dry wall, tyvek, verm

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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: smokedout420]
    #7999627 - 02/09/08 10:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I wonder if I'm miscalculating the value of coir as compared to other substrates because I was using price per kilogram as a way of measuring. If the coir fluffs out to be bigger and will there be more per-weight? Additionally I think I've also forgotten that spent coffee is free and it reduces the price of the substrate to just barely comparable if I use a 20% coffee grounds mixture. I'm thinking of finding an alternate method to get it by having a family member send me some on the bus that would reduce costs a lot.

And I'm pretty sure walmart doesn't have any, this is a small northern town and not an epicenter of reptile pets. However since there is obviously no other bulk subs, I'm going to have to find an alternate way to get some coir.


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"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: hazey]
    #8001000 - 02/09/08 04:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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hazey said:
Quote:

Civ said:


100% vermiculite substrate!  Right pic cased with verm also.

You can get a 4 cubic feet bag for under 10$ and I am sure if you needed it shipped it wouldn't be too much more.  I can make 50 or so monos outa one bag.





alright, position him so we don't have any problems with ricochet, and i want three men with rifles positioned accordingly. on my command gentlemen.




oh my you made me spill soda all over cause I was rofling so hard!  I didn't get it first read lol. 

I needed that.. :smile:

Vermiculite itself fits the description less of a substrate- but more of a caseing, non-nutritive- but eitherway, its great when you need a quick medium that stores a very long time and is easy to prep.

And yeah, thats wheat berries too straight verm- cased with verm.



Easiest medium prep I say, just add water- pasturize, shit or don't.

Its pretty dang easy- and the only potency change due to substrate mediums, ime,  is if its poo or no poo-  straw, coir, verm-I notice no change in potency.


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So, wash it well afterwards & DON'T tell them..."  -Agar


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: ScavengerType]
    #8001520 - 02/09/08 06:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I to know your pain of being from a small northern town haha i have to travel 3 hours to get to a city for me to get anything, sure there is lots of hay around cause i am surronded by farms but there is also lots of snow so the farmers can see if you sneak into there barn hahaha. But you can find coir around in most of the citys at hydoponics stores and its dirt cheap compared to waht some people here pay.


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Re: other bulk substrates [Re: ScavengerType]
    #8001610 - 02/09/08 06:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I wonder if I'm miscalculating the value of coir as compared to other substrates because I was using price per kilogram as a way of measuring. If the coir fluffs out to be bigger and will there be more per-weight? Additionally I think I've also forgotten that spent coffee is free and it reduces the price of the substrate to just barely comparable if I use a 20% coffee grounds mixture. I'm thinking of finding an alternate method to get it by having a family member send me some on the bus that would reduce costs a lot.

And I'm pretty sure walmart doesn't have any, this is a small northern town and not an epicenter of reptile pets. However since there is obviously no other bulk subs, I'm going to have to find an alternate way to get some coir.




Yeah, dry coir will expand up to 8 times its volume once hydrated. Obviously, its weight will also greatly increase but not necessarily as much as the volume. In either case, weight matters little: it's all about volume.

And coir really isn't that expensive. Mycosupply for instance will send you a bale of coir, which, when hydrated, will fill roughly 60 quarts for 30 bucks(shipping to Canada included). If you use a 1:3 spawn:substrate ratio, that's enough to spawn 20 quart jars. And that's not including extra volume from vermiculite and coffee grounds.


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