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Blue Lotus?
    #7995778 - 02/08/08 10:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have a bag sitting in front of me of some Blue Lotus, otherwise known as Egyptian blue lily, sacred lotus, etc. I have never personally tried it, but I've heard that the effects are described as that of a mild sedative in addition to mild psychedelic effects. I plan on making a pot of tea within the next hour :tongue2:

Has anyone here ever had any experiences with the sacred lotus? If so, what method of ingestion did you use? Was the experience enjoyable?


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Robo]
    #7995812 - 02/08/08 11:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Never tried it, and according to erowid.. There's no psychedelic properties to it at all

http://www.erowid.org/plants/lotus/lotus.shtml


Lemme know how it goes


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Nexius]
    #7995822 - 02/08/08 11:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have used it several different ways....
Don't bother smoking. You have to smoke way too much.
Effects are subtle and mostly visual and slightly relaxing..

The best method from my experience, was open a bottle of read win, pour out a bit, and cram about 20grams of dried leaves in and let it set for a couple of hours.
then drink the wine.

you can definitley tell when it's done that way. Supposedly that is how the Egyptians did it.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Nexius]
    #7995824 - 02/08/08 11:10 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I read that the psychedelic properties included mild CEV's and increased color in vision. Yeah, erowid made no mention of that; got it from wiki. I'm sure the psychedelic part of it is  very very mild, if there is any at all :shrug:

Its mostly sedative though.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Robo]
    #7995831 - 02/08/08 11:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

When I was into trying all the new botanicals I could get my hands on, I always meditated under a tulip tree where I lived.

What I noticed was that when I looked at this tree, I could see each individual leaf all at the same time. That's the best way I can describe the hallucinations from it. Everything seemed to appear to me as if an artist were looking at it (I'm no artist)

I hope that helps...

It is very subtle. Something to do after church on a sunny day.. lol


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Robo]
    #7995832 - 02/08/08 11:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Omni said:
I read that the psychedelic properties included mild CEV's and increased color in vision. Yeah, erowid made no mention of that; got it from wiki. I'm sure the psychedelic part of it is  very very mild, if there is any at all :shrug:

Its mostly sedative though.




Give it shot man, The more  you do the better chance you have of ahieving your goal lol


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Fraggin]
    #7995833 - 02/08/08 11:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well I don't have any wine or alcohol at the moment, I'm not much of a drinker.

I was thinking about just using the same method for making mushroom tea. Should work right?


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Robo]
    #7995839 - 02/08/08 11:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Um, possibly...
You could just boil the leaves with some lemon juice

However the acids might destroy the alkaloids, im not familiar with blue lotus


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Nexius]
    #7995859 - 02/08/08 11:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Fraggin]
    #7995883 - 02/08/08 11:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Tea it is then :tongue2:

Time to crank up the stove.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Fraggin]
    #7995890 - 02/08/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I LOVE Lotus!!!



There are two species of psychoactive Lily/Lotus- Nymphaea caerulea and Nelumbo nucifera


Nymphaea is Egyptian orgy Lily.


Nelumbo is Far Eastern meditation Lotus.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Robo]
    #7995892 - 02/08/08 11:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Tea it is then :tongue2:

Time to crank up the stove.




If you get visuals
Let me know :o


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Nexius]
    #7995928 - 02/08/08 11:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i smoked about 3 very very large joints of this, mixed with a tad of herb and tobacco. i would equate the effects to being similar to that of opium. i felt very strange, thats the only way i can describe it. i would definitely go with the titration in wine since the comedown was very unpleasant for me


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: tealeaf]
    #7995931 - 02/08/08 11:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Nothing can beat opium :laugh:


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Nexius]
    #7996020 - 02/08/08 12:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Nexius said:
If you get visuals
Let me know :o




Doubt I'll get any visuals, maybe just heightened senses.

Tea's just about finished :tongue2:


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7996025 - 02/08/08 12:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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FarFromHere said:
There are two species of psychoactive Lily/Lotus- Nymphaea caerulea and Nelumbo nucifera


Nymphaea is Egyptian orgy Lily.


Nelumbo is Far Eastern meditation Lotus.




Thanks for the botany lesson :tongue:


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Robo]
    #7996860 - 02/08/08 04:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hey Omni, I have quite a bit of experience w/ lotus. It's a rather mild sedative effect. Nothing too out of the ordinary.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7996867 - 02/08/08 04:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Helps w/ anxiety to. Nothing like valium though.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7997159 - 02/08/08 05:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It didn't do much to me at all to tell you the truth :shrug:


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Robo]
    #7997184 - 02/08/08 05:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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It didn't do much to me at all to tell you the truth :shrug:




yea it's nothing to write home about. at least now you can say you did it nig.:macdre:


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7997205 - 02/08/08 05:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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yea it's nothing to write home about.




Fo sho :macdre:

Better luck next time maybe? I'll take double the amount or something next time around.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Robo]
    #7997213 - 02/08/08 05:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I like to smoke and drink the tea at once. I hear soaking it in wine works great but if your less than 21 like me than it might be hard to get ahold of that shit.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7997319 - 02/08/08 05:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Like I said earlier, I've tried it numerous times with all the methods reccomended. I didn;t get any effects until I soaked a grip in wine for a spell, then drank the wine. Apparently, thats the most preferred way to do it.
I definitley got the effects that way when all the other ones failed.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Fraggin]
    #7997333 - 02/08/08 05:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'll have to get some wine and try that way then.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: Robo]
    #8715765 - 08/02/08 10:49 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

i have been reading a lot about preparations

i bought a bag of blue lotus, dried flowers, a while ago

and i first tried making a tea

i probably didnt steep it long enough, but i did notice my vision blurring and i easily fell asleep (which is often not the case for me)

i woke up feeling very rested, too

but i want to try the alcohol preparation; i am just wondering why more people dont talk about mixing it with liquor.

i have gin and i also have absinthe (the legal-in-america kind). i want to try mixing them, but is there any reason not to?


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: kodakya]
    #8715830 - 08/02/08 11:12 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

It's funny, I was wondering about this just last night.

About 5 years ago, a couple people I knew were making a big deal about this. So, I ordered a bag and tried smoking and eating it. I didn't get any effects at all. So, I gave it to a couple friends. They didn't feel anything either.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: altitudes]
    #8715866 - 08/02/08 11:26 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, i tried a quid, too. i dont think it did much, but maybe i wasnt using a good amount for long enough

anyway, i crushed my shit up and now it is in a jar with some absinthe. we'll see. i wasnt patient enough to wait for advice :smile:


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #8716174 - 08/02/08 12:43 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I really enjoy blue water lily - its a pleasant sedative/euphoriant that seems to have very mild sensory enhancing properties. I prefer it as a strong tea but have smoked it on occasion. "Blue China" powdered extract is really nice, also.

I haven't been impressed with the American white water lily (N. odorata) or the pink Nelumbo, though.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: N2loma]
    #8716468 - 08/02/08 02:10 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Blue lotus does have some interesting effects, but those effects go unnoticed by most who try it.
The problem is, most people either smoke cannabis or try other, more potent psychedelics frequently, and it gets hard to notice the subtle effects of these other plants.

When exploring new entheogens, I normally abstain from other plants and fast for a day.
Following this procedure, I always notice effects from what I experiment with, and all usual psychedelics come on much stronger.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: satyr]
    #8717012 - 08/02/08 04:33 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I once had an experience with a mixture of blue lotus white lotus and marijuana smoked out of a bowl after taking 3 very potent hbwr.

The mixture jumped up the open eyed visuals from a something i could see if i tried to a very clear distinct flowing type, which i could still ignore if i chose to.  Might have just been coincidence but most of them reminded me of flowers.

I have always smoked weed in combination with lsa and cannot say this effect stemmed from the weed alone.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: johnny.fairplay]
    #8717749 - 08/02/08 07:46 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

i drank the mixture over about three hours

i think there was too much absinthe in it, i never even got around to eating all of the lotus...there was about 1/4 ounce in there

but i started drinking / eating the stuff at a park by myself, and it was really pleasant and i could definitely feel the effects..mostly just calm, drunk (which was enhanced, i believe, by the lotus), reflective, and my vision seemed brighter...

i began the day with a headache when i woke up, so this probably wasnt the best time to do this. now i have a really bad headache. that and the fact that i cant stomach "absinthe" anymore because the taste reminds me of a bad experience...

overall, i am still feeling the effects because i drunk this over a long period in small amounts, i think, and i have a bad headache, but it was mostly good...and it seems like putting the lotus in hard liquor is a nice "solution"

i should also note that i enjoyed this much more when i was alone. i went to a music fest for a little while and ran into a bunch of people, and mostly i just felt awkward and irritated and had to leave.


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #8719654 - 08/03/08 12:54 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

i never finished drinking the stuff i made yesterday

so i cooked the rest of the lotus that had been soaking overnight
in liquor into "granola"

it was really tasty...mmm...probably wont do anything, but at least it didnt go completely to waste

i drank a little gin too since most of the alcohol got cooked out..

update...im drinking some gin, very little though, and i feel pretty drunk??? so im thinking the lotus is still working, the granola was good


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Re: Blue Lotus? [Re: kodakya]
    #8722068 - 08/03/08 11:35 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I brought back 1100 grams of dried lotus from Thailand/Cambodia.
I love the stuff.
Tastes like heaven and makes you want to sing and you just feel great.


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