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Be here now
    #7995282 - 02/08/08 08:50 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

What does that really mean to you?

Not just what someone else tells you it means. I have found more than one application for this phrase.


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Re: Be here now [Re: mushbaby]
    #7995452 - 02/08/08 09:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

When I cannot tell the water from the reflection of the sky.

That to me is pure momentum.


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Re: Be here now [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7995536 - 02/08/08 09:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Turning the volume down on the seemingly automatic analysis's in my mind and becoming cognizant of my self in the body in the/of the universe while being as open as possible to my immediate perceptions including but not always limited to the five senses. Its the being in the moment without requiring that assurance that you are actually in it.


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Re: Be here now [Re: WScott]
    #7995758 - 02/08/08 10:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ok. That is the traditional thinking behind this and I agree with it.

BUT the other day I was trying to do something (I think using a curling iron) and my head was way up in the clouds. You know, thinking about this and that, definitely not paying attention to what I was doing.

I dropped the curling iron, knocked over a couple of things and just made a mess all around. This brought to mind "be here now" as in snap to it. Made me wonder if this phrase that's traditionally associated with awareness wasn't actually made up by someone a little stoned or at least having a little trouble paying attention.


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Re: Be here now [Re: mushbaby]
    #7995816 - 02/08/08 11:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Be here now [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #7995837 - 02/08/08 11:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

when I read Be Here Now I turn my awareness inwards into my body and my senses (touch and sound being the most pronounced)


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Re: Be here now [Re: mushbaby]
    #7996342 - 02/08/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

This slowly drifting cloud is pitiful;
What dreamwalkers men become.
Awakened, I hear the one true thing--
Black rain on the roof of Fukakusa Temple.




-Dogen


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Be here now [Re: mushbaby]
    #7997215 - 02/08/08 05:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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mushbaby said:
Ok. That is the traditional thinking behind this and I agree with it.

BUT the other day I was trying to do something (I think using a curling iron) and my head was way up in the clouds. You know, thinking about this and that, definitely not paying attention to what I was doing.

I dropped the curling iron, knocked over a couple of things and just made a mess all around. This brought to mind "be here now" as in snap to it. Made me wonder if this phrase that's traditionally associated with awareness wasn't actually made up by someone a little stoned or at least having a little trouble paying attention.




I know that the author of 'Be Here Now', Ram Dass (aka Dr. Richard Alpert) was quite into the hashish, among other things. The phrase 'be here now' is based on something that Bhagavan Das said however. An interview with him can be found here.


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Re: Be here now [Re: mushbaby]
    #7997506 - 02/08/08 06:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Waiting for the mouse to pop out of its hole


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Re: Be here now [Re: mushbaby]
    #7997563 - 02/08/08 06:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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mushbaby said:

What does that really mean to you?




Remember. stop. breathe. deep. beauty. silent. surrender. acceptance. grateful. contentment. empty. open. aware. compassion. smile. remember.

Words can only faintly resemble experience...


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Re: Be here now [Re: mushbaby]
    #7997679 - 02/08/08 07:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Be here now.
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What does that really mean to you?




It really all depends on which "level" of awareness you choose to cognize or interpret the frase.
If I choose to take it from the (individual ego) mental perspective it means be "mindful", not allowing ones mind to wander
If I choose to take it from the (centauric) whole organism perspective it means be "aware", of everything going on "right now" with ones complete organism.
If I choose to take it from the (psychic/subtle) spiritual perspective it means "be one" with and "identify" with everything going on in my "own" experience.
And lastly as a non-dualistic adage it is meant to relate all of the above yet negating there ever having to have been any of the above in the interpretation. Because one could ask, where else have I been but here, and when else but now?
Taken from any of the perspective one might find themselves in there own state of development it is a supremely helpful mantra to recite. Akin to "Who am I", it is certain to lead to realization.
I mention it in every stage of interpretation not to postulate the way in which others might interpret it, but to relate my own progressive levels of interpretation.
Strange that each seems, and indeed is, as relevant and inclusive as the state of development through which one may interpret it. And then one day the clouds part as if they were never there to begin with and it seems you have never perceived any differently. Funny


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Re: Be here now [Re: Fugai]
    #7997688 - 02/08/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

To me, it means focus on matters that are relevant to the current situation, don't focus on past matters or archaic beliefs. Not something I abide by as I like to read up on old cultural, musical, and artistic movements.


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