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OfflineGoliathsBedlum
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Chances of Bunk acid...
    #7993916 - 02/07/08 09:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Having recently lost a 100% trustworthy source, and forced to branch out to new dealers. I've been a little skeptical about the prospect of ingesting somthing i dont know 100% about. Pretty much I just dont want anything other that DOB, RC's etc. if I want acid. So my question is; What are my chances? What are the chances of getting a reasonably legit looking blotter and it being not LSD-25? I know this is not a question that can have a definite answer, so all I'm asking for is a general census. Whith your experience, how much do you see mimic acid?


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: GoliathsBedlum]
    #7993921 - 02/07/08 09:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Depends if you're picking up from a sketchy dude outside a rave-or a friend's friend.

Don't pick up from people you don't know-and if you're desperate, only buy a tab and see how it is.

But best thing is just to keep looking for friends(raves are a good place to start). You don't want to get shit acid that makes you 500x paranoid like I did....

I was driving on the hwy, and thought EVERYONE was a cop........


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: GoliathsBedlum]
    #7993925 - 02/07/08 09:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The stuff I've gotten has always been 100% lsd but then again I've never bought off of the streets from someone I don't really know.

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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: GoliathsBedlum]
    #7993938 - 02/07/08 09:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Oh of course. I would never buy from some random dude. I know a few people who a friend recommended, but I still have never met the guy, so you never know...


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: GoliathsBedlum]
    #7994030 - 02/07/08 09:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If you live in the midwest then almost all is real because there is a new chef cooking up tons of it. I got 4 vials and took one hit and was trippin for 12 hours.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #7994158 - 02/07/08 10:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've never had bunk acid..
However, its easy as pie to get it...
Get a piece of paper cut it into a small square/rectangle
there ya go.. bunk acid :frown:


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: Nexius]
    #7995322 - 02/08/08 09:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Plain white blotter is usually quality, and (on average) it seems to be getting a lot stronger.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: iBruiseBlue]
    #7995324 - 02/08/08 09:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thats the only thing i can find, is a plain white cardboard type paper


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: Nexius]
    #7995388 - 02/08/08 09:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have been sold 2 sheets of pure paper before, but i got my money back cuz the person who sold me it was a little punk. In this case, it was just white blotter.

From www.erowid.org : Might help you out.

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The only way to definitively identify LSD is to do laboratory GC/MS testing of the material. But one field test is based on the fact that LSD glows under UV light (blacklight). Obviously other things glow under blacklight as well, so just the fact that it glows doesn't mean it's LSD, but if it doesn't glow, LSD can generally be ruled out. The glow is apparent in crystal form, liquid form, or liquid dropped onto other material such as blotter or sugar cubes.




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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #7995692 - 02/08/08 10:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Shroom Jew...

You need to stop referring to your 2-hit bottles as 'vials.'

It is very misleading, people assume that you have 100 hits in each vial.

So if you say something like 'I took two vials last night' you are openly inviting a shit storm of flames.
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For the question though, I live in the midwest and have never encountered fake acid, just weak acid and strong acid.

You'll probably be ok, you should know the rules for identifying an RC from blotter.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7995731 - 02/08/08 10:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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ReoSpeedwagon153 said:
Shroom Jew...

You need to stop referring to your 2-hit bottles as 'vials.'

It is very misleading, people assume that you have 100 hits in each vial.

So if you say something like 'I took two vials last night' you are openly inviting a shit storm of flames.
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For the question though, I live in the midwest and have never encountered fake acid, just weak acid and strong acid.

You'll probably be ok, you should know the rules for identifying an RC from blotter.




lol very true about the vials

Most blotters greatly vary in UG Dosage
It depends on if they dillute before they dip the sheet into the strips


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: Nexius]
    #7995742 - 02/08/08 10:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I just thought he was lying when he talked about eating a vial:crazy:


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: GoliathsBedlum]
    #7995814 - 02/08/08 11:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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GoliathsBedlum said:
Having recently lost a 100% trustworthy source, and forced to branch out to new dealers. I've been a little skeptical about the prospect of ingesting somthing i dont know 100% about. Pretty much I just dont want anything other that DOB, RC's etc. if I want acid. So my question is; What are my chances? What are the chances of getting a reasonably legit looking blotter and it being not LSD-25? I know this is not a question that can have a definite answer, so all I'm asking for is a general census. Whith your experience, how much do you see mimic acid?




I have one guy I trust, who also seeks out RC's and DO*s, but he definitely tells me what he has and he's only ever gotten me LSD in geltab form, which was unbelieveable.

BUT...and this is a big but. Anytime any of my friends get acid from some unknown source, and this happens 100% of the time that they do that. It turns out to be something else, most likely DOM or DOB. Very easy to tell the difference if you have experience.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #7995827 - 02/08/08 11:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Careful with DOB :x

If you take more than one hit, the length of time the trip sustains is increased

So if you take 2 hits of DOB you'll trip alot longer than 1 hit

Acid isn't quite that it seems to always last the same amount of time, or around it...


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: Nexius]
    #7996014 - 02/08/08 12:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Careful with DOB :x

If you take more than one hit, the length of time the trip sustains is increased

So if you take 2 hits of DOB you'll trip alot longer than 1 hit

Acid isn't quite that it seems to always last the same amount of time, or around it...




Yea, one "hit" of DOB will typically last 10-12 hrs. Two hits lasts twice that, maybe longer. Up to 35 hrs. Not for me.

I've taken three geltabs of acid (equivalent to 6 blotters) and tripped hard, but for only about 8 hours.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #7996192 - 02/08/08 01:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

honestly, id say you have a 40% chance of it being what it is marketed as. and raves are the worst place to pick up a "good" dose. most people selling stuff at a rave are there for money, not for making friends, so they will tell you whatever you want to hear in order for you to buy their product.

my friends have bought handful of times from people they know and its been good, right on LSD-25, but when they buy from someone they don't know, id say its a 50 50 chance of it being what i want it to be heh.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: smokeybear]
    #8603394 - 07/07/08 08:27 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Know your source i have a realiable source who has never bunked me.  If someone is going out of their way to offer it to you its prolly bunk.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #8603557 - 07/07/08 09:41 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

This poll gives some insight into how often RCs or bunk are sold as acid:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8490296/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1
It suggests that 86% of "acid" is actually LSD. When you don't get LSD it's more likely to be bunk than other substances.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: donvliet]
    #8603597 - 07/07/08 09:58 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

^And yet the DEA seems to disagree and their results are based on lab testing. While that poll is useful to an extent, its pretty unscientific and is really a lot of guesswork on the part of the participants.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: LSDreamer]
    #8603702 - 07/07/08 10:51 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I've "attempted" acid around 15 times and 5 times it's been real. It's hard as shit to find acid here.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: Chroniffer]
    #8603710 - 07/07/08 10:56 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Another midwestie here, jew man is right, although the cook i get mine from is not located in the midwest... he is cooking come killer shit and its getting to ks/mo. i recently picked up a few vials (100 hit) and 1-2 drops onto the tounge does me VERY good, OEV's, CEV's, HUGE time dialation... but its so clean and smooth!!! no after headaches, just a clean clean body high.



ive tripped a good 40-60 times since january and this stuff by far is the best i have had.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: LSDreamer]
    #8603849 - 07/07/08 11:34 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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^And yet the DEA seems to disagree and their results are based on lab testing. While that poll is useful to an extent, its pretty unscientific and is really a lot of guesswork on the part of the participants.




where do you hear this?

i don't think the dea has a real vested interest in keeping drug users well-informed.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: jhoppa]
    #8603858 - 07/07/08 11:37 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

^Check the Micrograms.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: LSDreamer]
    #8603919 - 07/07/08 11:53 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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^Check the Micrograms.




yeah, i do.
they don't put everything they seize up, only the more unique finds.  as such, you never see straight up lsd on there (unless its a huge amount or part of a large polydrug seizure), you see a lot of weird chemicals on typical lsd delivery media.  i wouldn't take the microgram alerts as indicative of larger nation-wide trends (how often do you see xanax on blotter, for instance).

do you have a specific microgram in mind (a la http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_blotter_microgram_1987.pdf but more recent) that lists out blotter contents?  the one i just gave indicates the vast majority of blotter is LSD, but its also 20 years old.

in any case, i wouldn't be so quick to discount anecdotal reports. lsd has a pretty specific profile with regard to effects, time to onset and duration- not many other chemicals out there match it very well.  it isn't that hard to tell if you're on lsd; its a bit harder to tell what you're on if you're not on lsd.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: LSDreamer]
    #8603920 - 07/07/08 11:54 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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LSDreamer said:
^And yet the DEA seems to disagree and their results are based on lab testing. While that poll is useful to an extent, its pretty unscientific and is really a lot of guesswork on the part of the participants.




you're right, it isn't very scientific. But it's a rough indication. I don't know what the DEA tests show, but that only goes for the US. This poll has voters from around the world (I live in the Netherlands).

In 15 years I have only once gotten something that wasn't LSD. The rest was always real LSD, sometimes more potent than others, but it was always acid.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: jhoppa]
    #8603945 - 07/07/08 12:01 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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LSDreamer said:
^Check the Micrograms.




yeah, i do.
they don't put everything they seize up, only the more unique finds.  as such, you never see straight up lsd on there (unless its a huge amount or part of a large polydrug seizure), you see a lot of weird chemicals on typical lsd delivery media.  i wouldn't take the microgram alerts as indicative of larger nation-wide trends (how often do you see xanax on blotter, for instance).

do you have a specific microgram in mind (a la http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_blotter_microgram_1987.pdf but more recent) that lists out blotter contents?  the one i just gave indicates the vast majority of blotter is LSD, but its also 20 years old.

in any case, i wouldn't be so quick to discount anecdotal reports. lsd has a pretty specific profile with regard to effects, time to onset and duration- not many other chemicals out there match it very well.  it isn't that hard to tell if you're on lsd; its a bit harder to tell what you're on if you're not on lsd.




I don't have a specific Microgram off the top of my head. I don't memorize which issue is which lol. I do know that since Pickard went down, the percentage of "acid" seized by the DEA that is LSD has dropped dramatically.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: LSDreamer]
    #8603978 - 07/07/08 12:11 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

based on statistics ive taken
which is a lot since i buy tons of dr00gs
ur 50% likely to get lsd if u ask 4 acid at a rave in da west coast


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: LSDreamer]
    #8603989 - 07/07/08 12:14 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Checking out hippie type events will likely get you acid more reliably than at a rave, although I never really searched hard for drugs at a rave to be honest. I've tried to get acid four times at such a place, and three times were totally legit, once was probably the real thing, but super weak. In my limited experience plain white blotter has generally been reliable.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: LSDreamer]
    #8604201 - 07/07/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't have a specific Microgram off the top of my head. I don't memorize which issue is which lol. I do know that since Pickard went down, the percentage of "acid" seized by the DEA that is LSD has dropped dramatically.




Don't know about dramatically, but I'm sure it has somewhat in the recent years.

You also need to realize it is the DEA. They have a huge interest in our perception of the drug market. If they can convince a lot of people that real LSD isn't really around anymore, why wouldn't they? These are the same people who claimed Pickard supplied 95% of the US acid or something rediculous like that.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: wildchild68]
    #8604419 - 07/07/08 02:46 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

^Pickard was turning out massive quantities of LSD, I wouldn't be too surprised if he wasn't the biggest distributor at the time. They wouldn't pretend like LSD is dead because then part of their job would be gone. Microgram is pretty trustworthy.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: LSDreamer]
    #8605900 - 07/07/08 08:58 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i have taken acid probably 20 times and i would be shocked to find out that any of them was a research chem. however i have bought from the same general crowd, although not the same person it is coming from pretty much the same place. sometimes its blotter, other times its liquid.
even when i recently got some shitty stuff from someone from a completely different crowd, it was absolute shit but it was definitely acid. i think it was actually from the same source as my usual hookups, just with a smaller dropper. also 10 a hit is ridiculous if it is that weak. i would comfortably take 10 hits of that stuff no prob, but i dont have a 100 dollars i want to blow on that...i could get a few strips of way better for the same price


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: GoliathsBedlum]
    #8606129 - 07/07/08 09:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

DOB is awesome and I assume that DOC and DOI are as well. The only thing I would get pissed about that fits on a blotter is bromo-dragonfly.
Other Rc's don't fit on a blotter.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: 7734591202]
    #8606138 - 07/07/08 09:46 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

DOB pwns and DOI sux cock
i hear DOC is pretty dope


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: Coaster]
    #8606149 - 07/07/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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DOB pwns



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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: 7734591202]
    #8606162 - 07/07/08 09:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

ya fer sure
DOB+LSD+XTC=Chemical Flipping
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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: GoliathsBedlum]
    #8606194 - 07/07/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Ive done LSD once and mushrooms once. Both i got from same source and both were top notch stuff. Hella good cubensis's and HELLA good sugar cubes LSD. I hope i never get bunk Cid im getting some soon through same dude so its gonne be good.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: 7734591202]
    #8606784 - 07/08/08 01:15 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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7734591202 said:
DOB is awesome and I assume that DOC and DOI are as well. The only thing I would get pissed about that fits on a blotter is bromo-dragonfly.
Other Rc's don't fit on a blotter.




I haven't tried DOB or DOI, but DOC is actually quite nice. But I really don't like any of them being sold as acid. Misrepresentation is annoying and dangerous.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: donvliet]
    #14126534 - 03/15/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I live in Barcelona, and I my only source for finding acid is asking around at raves or squatter parties. All the acid to be found around here comes from holland, is legit, and quite strong (I estimate 1 average hit to be in the 100-150 mcg range). I've never heard of anybody being ripped off, and it is common knowledge that half a blotter = light trip, 1 blotter = trip, 1,5-2 = strong trip. Reading about bunk acid, and RC's on blotter paper made me paranoid so I had some analyzed at Energy Control, which is a local, government sponsored organization that tests drugs for purity/adulteration anonymously and for free, and they said it was LSD or possibly an LSD analogue, but definately was not an RC and was not adulterated. They also said that 99% of european acid is legit.


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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: Jair]
    #15191812 - 10/07/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Jair said:
The stuff I've gotten has always been 100% lsd but then again I've never bought off of the streets from someone I don't really know.

:shrug:




That's the only way to be... like the cliche says:

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Re: Chances of Bunk acid... [Re: iBruiseBlue]
    #15191831 - 10/07/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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iBruiseBlue said:
Plain white blotter is usually quality, and (on average) it seems to be getting a lot stronger.




Exactly!  My cook doesn't do anything pretty for it - just straight white and you're off to the races!


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