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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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3rd party has more of a chance now than ever
    #7993208 - 02/07/08 06:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

when the ticket becomes hillary vs mccain. thye are bacially the exact same person, same views, just one with a vag. now you have consevatives, even crazy, cunty, arch conservatives are saying hillary is actually more conservative.

talk about 2 sides of the same coin. hannity, limbaugh, ingrahm, malkin are all freaking the fuck out about this. i LOVE it to watch the neocons have serious nervous breakdowns.

for me i always thought the answers lied somewhere in the middle. most sane humans would admit this.

if a 3rd party stepped up, they would possibly have a fighting chance.

lastly, im proud of the right wing. i thought most of them were absolute zombies, only doing the bidding of rush, sean and fox new. only because when i debate a conserv they always start using the quotes and buzz words of these neocon media shills. normal people ignored their psychotic, war rhetoric and voted with their own brains. i also am impressed, the right basically told the chistian loonies to fuck off and didnt pander to the jesus candidates. we dont need a candidate elected simply because he believes in the same, nutso imaginary shit hayseeds do.


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7993223 - 02/07/08 07:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yo FUCK a neocon, son.



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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7993238 - 02/07/08 07:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

and if third party has a chance now more than ever..

does that mean Ron Paul should go independent?

not like he's relying on the repub party for anything..


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7993241 - 02/07/08 07:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
when the ticket becomes hillary vs mccain. thye are bacially the exact same person





maybe you havent noticed yet, the republicrat party always has the same person
running, the same pile of shit has been in office since the 40s, the agenda is
always the same as is the outcome, it doesnt matter whom you vote for, we'll
always have the same person in the white house, we just get an updated hairstyle


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7993277 - 02/07/08 07:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
when the ticket becomes hillary vs mccain. thye are bacially the exact same person





maybe you havent noticed yet, the republicrat party always has the same person
running, the same pile of shit has been in office since the 40s, the agenda is
always the same as is the outcome, it doesnt matter whom you vote for, we'll
always have the same person in the white house, we just get an updated hairstyle




but but reagan kicked hippies and commies!


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: buckwheat]
    #7993294 - 02/07/08 07:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

reganomics, star wars, iran-contra (clinton was involved in that one)

you see, they're all in bed together and we're the ones getting screwed


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7993856 - 02/07/08 08:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Don't give up on Obama yet.


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7994180 - 02/07/08 10:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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reganomics, star wars, iran-contra (clinton was involved in that one)

you see, they're all in bed together and we're the ones getting screwed




How was Clinton involved in Iran-Contra?


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7994313 - 02/07/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ron paul would be a cool 3rd party but it wouldnt galvanize the fucking warmongering, heartless, crazy cons to vote. it also wouslnt bring out the psychotic, nutso, christians who vote based on imaginary shit.

it would need to be a popular, dark horse, neocon, that we havent heard of

i think the republican party is much more divided internally than the dems. especially as far as policy goes


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7997734 - 02/08/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
reganomics, star wars, iran-contra (clinton was involved in that one)

you see, they're all in bed together and we're the ones getting screwed




How was Clinton involved in Iran-Contra?




shipments of cocaine and arms being flown into mena airport, guarded by the arkansas state police, it's where the clinton body count got started

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MENA/mena.html


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7998145 - 02/08/08 09:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

sadly even with a 3rd party candidate they will probably have a platform that sucks as bad as the republicrats. now if it is ron paul maybe we have a shot to end the bullshit of the two party system. its deathgrip on american politics is killing this nation.


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7998180 - 02/08/08 09:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

A third party has no chance unless a very popular candidate branches off (think Bull Moose party, Theodore Roosevelt, not Raul Paul). Duverger's law.


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: robbyberto]
    #7998785 - 02/09/08 12:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Although I agree with the statement "3rd party candidate has more of a chance now than ever" it still is not going to happen. Both the democrats and the republican have a vast amount of resources, networking, and general clout. In order for a third party to be effective they would have to match that, and no current organization has it.

As for a third party coming from a popular candidate I would disagree. Parties are built from the ground up not from the top down. Think MLK, Robert Kennedy, and Fighting Bob La Follette


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: Smackshadow]
    #7998838 - 02/09/08 01:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Whoah.

He busts out the Fighting Bob La Follette reference.

Funny. They still love Fighting Bob here in Wisconsin.


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Re: 3rd party has more of a chance now than ever [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7998871 - 02/09/08 01:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Got'a love Fight'n Bob


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