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InvisiblePopACapInHisAss
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Straw + What...
    #7992732 - 02/07/08 05:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm looking at growing 4 bulk containers of 80% straw,
spawned with WBS, and then each with 20% of something
to add nutrients. I want to keep things simple and only
one or two added ingredients per container. I want
to compare the results. I would prefer to try off-the-shelf
ingredients I can buy in bags at the garden center or
out of bulk bins at the health food store (I will try
poo from the field at a later time). I am not stuck on
the 80/20 ratio but it sounds good to me since the straw
is relatively cheap.

What are your suggestions?

Guano? Organic compost? Coir? Flax? What?


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Re: Straw + What... [Re: PopACapInHisAss]
    #7992967 - 02/07/08 06:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Straw is hard to beat by itself. You don't need to add anything.
RR


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Re: Straw + What... [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7993781 - 02/07/08 08:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

how would you do that....spawn with WBS mix with a big bag of hay put it in a container like that....let colinize...then poke holes in bag and fruit?


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Re: Straw + What... [Re: KoDeInE]
    #7993983 - 02/07/08 09:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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KoDeInE said:
how would you do that....spawn with WBS mix with a big bag of hay put it in a container like that....let colinize...then poke holes in bag and fruit?




Yup.


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Re: Straw + What... [Re: KoDeInE]
    #7994061 - 02/07/08 09:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

KoDeInE said:
how would you do that....spawn with WBS mix with a big bag of hay put it in a container like that....let colinize...then poke holes in bag and fruit?





use straw. hay can sometimes be full of green alfalfa shit and whatnot.


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Re: Straw + What... [Re: hazey]
    #7996480 - 02/08/08 02:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yea straw lol....
whats the difference between the two...
but is that how you do that rodger?


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Re: Straw + What... [Re: KoDeInE]
    #7996525 - 02/08/08 02:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Just say no too hay and yay to straw.


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Re: Straw + What... [Re: Civ]
    #7996548 - 02/08/08 02:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

and yay for the shroomies bein happy.....thansk for the info


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Re: Straw + What... [Re: KoDeInE]
    #7996926 - 02/08/08 04:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

KoDeInE said:
yea straw lol....
whats the difference between the two...
but is that how you do that rodger?




straw comes from cereals (wheat, rye ect.)
hay comes from wild grasses like switch grass and includes any other
grasses growing in the area that the hay is harvested.

straw will all be the same kind of stalk, because it is harvested
from a field where straw is the primary form of vegetation

hay is usually different types of stalks from many wild grasses, thus straw is
more consistent in its nutrient content and its ability to retain moisture.
imo these are there primary reasons straw is better than hay.
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Re: Straw + What... [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7997380 - 02/08/08 06:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
Straw is hard to beat by itself. You don't need to add anything.
RR





Cool, I'll certainly be having one control that is 100% straw then.

Not that I would dare disagree with RRs depth and level of experience
but I still want to experiment a bit...my idea is to try a
few different grains, commercial composts, or coir in this round and
then move on to farm animal poo once I figure out sources.

Seems to me that the consensus is that horse poo with fire fang is
the ultimate medium for mycelium.

Can you compare straw and horse poo at all as mediums for fruiting
cubs?


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Re: Straw + What... [Re: PopACapInHisAss]
    #8029621 - 02/15/08 11:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I ran out of money and couldn't resist the allure of the dung.

I've been driving by a small horse ranch to the grocery store
for years. I didn't want to choose a local source. Just to
satisfy my healthy paranoia but the poop magnetism was just
too strong!

I stopped in and they pointed me to all the free poo I was
prepared for and much more for free. It couldn't have been
easier. The guy even refused my money. There still are nice
people in the world :o)

Since I have such a plentiful supply of poo, I think I'm gonna
mix it with a percentage chopped straw for texture and then
experiment with one additive at a time. I hope to achieve a
very high degree of overall consistency so the results have
at least some meaning (since not broad enough to draw scientific
conclusions)...

I am most excited to try adding azomite but I can't afford to
order any for this round. Maybe I can find a local source but
I've never heard of it being sold that way.

I am going to analyze the content of natural horse poo, straw
(mostly cellulose I believe), and then experiment with various
additives...always with a control...or maybe two controls...


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