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What to do about sidepining.
    #7989793 - 02/06/08 11:20 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

I have about two casings of 50/50 plus with about..four side pins on one, and one on the other. I covered the entire outside of the containers with electrical tape, and I'm wondering if anyone has ever had experience with sidepins. Will they eventually start upwards now, are they safe to leave, or shall I just take the entire casing out of the containers and place them on a tray?


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Re: What to do about sidepining. [Re: Beebo]
    #7989861 - 02/06/08 11:36 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

ive read that you would line the fc under casing with foil, the op said that as the casing shriks it'll bring the foil with it to help keep sp'n to a min

thread i was talkin about



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Re: What to do about sidepining. [Re: Beebo]
    #7989869 - 02/06/08 11:39 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

That used to happen to me. I think its because the clear plastic acts kind of like a fiber optic. In my experience with this, the tape kept the light from traveling through the plastic perpendicularly but the the rim of the tub, which wasn't covered with tape, just conveyed the light along down the sides of the tub toward the substrate which caused the side pinning. I ended up taking all the tape off and let them grow out. I would just pull the entire substrate out of the tub to harvest each flush. Now I use a black trash bag inside the tub which solved the problem. The side pinning wasn't really a bad thing, it just took a little more effort to harvest.


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Re: What to do about sidepining. [Re: 1Hypermycosis1]
    #7989893 - 02/06/08 11:44 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

I simply taped the sides with electrical tape, hoping that perhaps they'd change directions. Pretty much just don't worry about it and wait for it to poke through the top?


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Re: What to do about sidepining. [Re: Beebo]
    #7989901 - 02/06/08 11:45 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

Ive often thought about putting casing material between my monotubs and colonized sub. That way all exposed myc areas are covered with casing mix rather then just the top.

Would that be good?


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Re: What to do about sidepining. [Re: Beebo]
    #7989910 - 02/06/08 11:48 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

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I simply taped the sides with electrical tape, hoping that perhaps they'd change directions. Pretty much just don't worry about it and wait for it to poke through the top?




I would monitor the sides for aborts, make sure you don't have em in there rotting, I think that could be a contam problem sooner or later. Hopefully you'll recieve a more experienced person to give ya some advice.


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Re: What to do about sidepining. [Re: Beebo]
    #7989927 - 02/06/08 11:56 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

When this happened to me, I had side pinning across the entire surface area of the substrate. The fruits on the bottom and lower sides never made it to the top past the casing layer. You should just take all the tape off. Your pins are already set to grow there so thats how it's going to be for your next flushes. No reason to starve them from the light that they need. It's more fruiting surface anyway so if all goes well it could be a good thing.


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Re: What to do about sidepining. [Re: 1Hypermycosis1]
    #7989935 - 02/07/08 12:01 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

Next time just put a cleaned black trash bag in the bottom of the tub then mix in your spawn and substrate, when your done cut away the excess and that should take care of it.


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Re: What to do about sidepining. [Re: Beebo]
    #7989971 - 02/07/08 12:16 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

lay plastic sheeting or wrap in ur trays it will shrink with ur sub keeping it from getting fae and side pinning .. cheers


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Re: What to do about sidepining. [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
    #7990554 - 02/07/08 05:27 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

Side pins are often monsters, so it's not all bad.

It's not light. They pin around the edges because your casing layer was too dry and that was where the highest humidity was. Don't worry about the ones that grow under the substrate. They're not going to rot during the time it takes the flush on top to grow. When you remove the current flush, tip the tray over and remove the substrate to pick the ones underneath, then dunk and repeat.
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Re: What to do about sidepining. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7990818 - 02/07/08 08:50 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

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They pin around the edges because your casing layer was too dry and that was where the highest humidity was.




I have read in a few places, that they pin in those small spaces because of the humidity as well as the higher co2 concentration. Is this accurate? I believe this is why I have seen various guides on casing where you lay a piece of wax paper over the casing to help substitute this effect on the intended plane of growth.

When I do bins I lay either a black trash bag in there or preferably aluminum foil, you will still get a few side pins at the upper level of your casing but for the most part it works very well. My first tubs I tried wrapping the outside in a "boot" like you describe here with electrical tape, it really doesn't do any good as RR notes it's not light penetration that is the problem.

I have had side pinning so bad that the ends of the substrate appeared to be a labyrinth of worms smashed together, when it is that bad it's pretty much dead weight because you can scrape it off but it's impossible to clean effectively so it's a waste of time. I have seen amazing side fruits once they get up over the edge, but if they snake up like that it's a lost cause.


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Re: What to do about sidepining. [Re: xeallos]
    #7991164 - 02/07/08 11:00 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

It' humidity, not CO2, which inhibits pinning. Wax paper holds high humidity at the surface of the casing layer. You're supposed to wrinkle it up first, and then flatten it back out before laying on the casing layer. The wrinkles allows air to freely flow under the wax paper.
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Re: What to do about sidepining. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7992501 - 02/07/08 04:25 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)
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Put em in a plastic basket with holes on the side so you can pick them  :smile:  link to pic up there


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