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Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this?
    #7992301 - 02/07/08 03:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

For those who want to skip the subplot: ARE THESE SHROOMS OKAY TO EAT? THE GLAZE IS BECAUSE THEY ARE FROZEN, AS IS THE HAIR LOOKING STUFF

Well, you may have seen my thread about the shrooms which I weren't sure whether they were good or bad.

Well, if it couldn't get any worse, I accidentally froze them. I heard this reduces the potency - is this true?

They look a lot worse, but it's all blue - no black.

I was planning on just boiling up some soup and chucking them in, still frozen. Will that work? Will I even get CEV? I'm splitting it with a friend.










They smell like fungus, with a tiny hint of gym sock.

What's the worst that can happen? What shall I do with them? Keep in mind, I won't get my hands on any more shrooms for a very long time, and I've been wanting to try them for ages.

Any other advice would be appreciated.


Edited by Phoenix96 (02/07/08 03:38 PM)


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #7992309 - 02/07/08 03:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

pic?


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #7992365 - 02/07/08 03:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

those look kinda fuckin gross and rotted..

i'd let them thaw and see what they look like then..

how long have they been in there?


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: sui]
    #7992366 - 02/07/08 03:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

eat it, frozen shrooms really dont make much a difference, their potency might be lower though but idk for sure


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Vectorman11]
    #7992372 - 02/07/08 03:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

no way in fuck would i eat those.  :puke:  :scat:  :projectile:


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Vectorman11]
    #7992377 - 02/07/08 03:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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eat it, frozen shrooms really dont make much a difference, their potency might be lower though but idk for sure





thats liable to make him sick.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Vectorman11]
    #7992379 - 02/07/08 03:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Vectorman11 said:
eat it, frozen shrooms really dont make much a difference, their potency might be lower though but idk for sure




I'm basing it more on whether they look alright to eat rathet than just because they're frozen.

They've been frozen for two days. They looked like this beforehand -
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7977106/an/0/page/0

So I don't see how they could have rotted since then.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #7992382 - 02/07/08 03:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i dont understand why one would freeze them instead of drying them out.

unless you were trying to preserve them to take them fresh and they have only been in there for a day or two and they 'accidentally' froze..

then i dont see any reason not to eat them.. unless they were fcked up before you put them in there.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7992422 - 02/07/08 04:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

They did accidentally freeze. Please look at the pictures of them beforehand. I was thinking of drying them out now, but I think that might be a bad idea.

Could I just thaw them, chop them up, shove them in tea?


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #7992441 - 02/07/08 04:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

what makes you think i didn't look at the pictures? did you see my earlier post?

depends how long they were in there i think..

they look fuckin disgusting and i wouldn't eat them.. shrooms are bad enough fresh by themselves.. they dont need freezerburn on top of that..

if you want you can put them in tea, but they dont look like regular mushrooms..

next time, just dry them out.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7992468 - 02/07/08 04:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

"unless they were fcked up before you put them in there."

That just gave me the idea.

The only reason I'm stressing about it is because there won't be a 'next time' for a long fucking time. I'm talking like, a year maybe.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #7992480 - 02/07/08 04:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

uh huh.. uh huh.. yes.

well would you rather spend that year sober or in the hospital.

i'm just saying.. they might possibly be safe to eat, but i personally wouldn't they look too jacked up. they aren't what i would think a mushroom would look like being in the fridge for..

..wait you have still yet to say how long they have been in there.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7992490 - 02/07/08 04:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I would dry a dose or so and go from there, but if they still look like this minus the frozen part i would toss em.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7992494 - 02/07/08 04:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

2 days, in an airtight package


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #7992506 - 02/07/08 04:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Also - how would you suggest I dry them? Just put them under a fan? Will they be dry by tommorow evening?


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7992508 - 02/07/08 04:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't understand why one needs to ask so many questions before ingesting their mushrooms. Just try them for crying out loud. Don't be dissuaded by people who say they would never eat those. Its just that some people are used to some quality stuff and have more to chose from. Granted, you may get a bit ill from them if you let them sit around and get moldy before freezing them. Just make some tea. That should kill any bacteria or unwanted fungi. Maybe even extract w/ some high proof alcohol.

Like I said, trial and error. split them w/ a friend. If nothing happens, tough. If you have a great time, well, great. Learn from experience, not what a bunch of strangers(myself included) say. Nothing will teach you better than the experience itself.


by the way, how did you get them into the country from Holland?
You seem to have some balls to do that, so take the chance and eat the things already!
What ever happened to drug taking = risk taking. Doesn't 'trying to know all the answers' diminish from the experience at all?

Sorry, I'm rambling.
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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: akb112211]
    #7992536 - 02/07/08 04:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Just got them shoved in a suitcase - that's it.

What would you suggest I do to prepare them then - dry them?

I'm supposed to be eating them tommorow. I doubt I'm going to go through with it anyway - with all this speculation, I'll most likely have a bad trip.

I'm crushed, because it's 100% impossible to get shrooms here (I've been trying for years), and I'm not going to end up smuggling shrooms out of Holland again either.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #7992580 - 02/07/08 04:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think its 100% impossible to find psilocybes anywhere. You just aren't talking to the right people. I do give you props for smuggling them out of Holland though, that's quite a ballsy move.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #7992583 - 02/07/08 04:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if they were picked two days ago and they were just frozen then i'd probably eat them

they look hella nasty though..

just grow some.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: iBruiseBlue]
    #7992586 - 02/07/08 04:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Moral of the story.

Dry fresh shrooms using a fan or desiccant chamber.

Freezing wet shrooms just turns into a mushy nasty mess.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #7992596 - 02/07/08 04:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If they were lookin fine before you froze them, they are fine now.

Mushrooms just turn to MUSH when you freeze/thaw them. Nothing is wrong with them though...


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #7992641 - 02/07/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Do you really want to toss them?
Didn't think so. Dry them (asap/now). By the way, the freezing of raw mushrooms could have caused a loss in potency. Though that could merely be a myth.

Wait till you are in the right mindset. ie. confident you will have a good trip(remember there is really no such thing as a 'bad trip'. There is always something to be learned)

Go on, give them a try.
Or....If you are not so sure, take low doses, don't expect a full trip, and enjoy the subtleties of psilocybin. (i'm sure I'll have some naysayers on that one)
Like I've mentioned before, I've mixed low doses(just below threshold level) with (pseudo)ephedrine and had very interesting results that lasted about two hours. Very amphetamine like. very mental, energetic, positive. Obviously nothing visual.
Don't always expect huge results and build up the experience. Try what I said and go for a long walk, or sit down and do some writing or drawing. Thats a combo that I've enjoyed many figure drawing classes on.

I'd be curious as to how it goes for you.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: baraka]
    #7992643 - 02/07/08 04:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You're STILL going on about those damned shrooms? JFC!
This is getting to be a running joke.

It's time to find a new hobby before you kill yourself.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: baraka]
    #7992663 - 02/07/08 04:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Throw that shit out...

Go hunting and get some more!

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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7992668 - 02/07/08 04:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah i've heard frezing destroys potency of mushrooms, although when I used to make Tea out of subbs i'd store it in the freezer for quite a while without any noticeable loss of potency


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: 04281969]
    #7992687 - 02/07/08 05:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

What the hell are you talking about?

I've already done something stupid which fucked my shrooms up, I'm trying not to do it again.

I'm trying to get all the information I need so I don't do something irresponsible. I'm getting conflicting answers so I'm getting confused.

My last question is, how long will it take to dry them with a fan? And can I just semi-dry them (since I'm planning on having them tommorow), cut them up really finely and put them in tea?


Edited by Phoenix96 (02/07/08 05:07 PM)


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #7992721 - 02/07/08 05:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yes, just do that. they'll be fine. you'll be fine. If not, sorry I said so.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: akb112211]
    #7992909 - 02/07/08 06:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I don't think I'm going to risk it - especially considering that I'll only have 5 hours or so to put them infront of a fan to dry them.

I'm really upset, but whatever - I'll probably just take some DXM instead.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #7993168 - 02/07/08 06:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: baraka]
    #7993423 - 02/07/08 07:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Honestly I would just eat them. Unless they're moldy, there's nothing wrong with them at all. Just keep them frozen until you plan on eating them. As soon as you thaw them, they will probably turn to goo. Don't worry about all the nay-saying, some people are just picky.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: BoulderBoomer]
    #7993532 - 02/07/08 07:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i have come to the same conclusion.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: baraka]
    #7993800 - 02/07/08 08:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

After reading your other post it looks like you've had those for some time. You cant keep fresh mushrooms for very long, especially them going from a warm place to a cold to a frozen one. Your best option to take those is thaw them in the fridge, the get some everclear and do an extraction. That way you kill the bacteria. Good luck man.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: newlife]
    #7994292 - 02/07/08 10:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Dude throw them in a blender with some lemon juice and orange juice and a bit of ice cream and make a smoothy if there still frozen. It tasts good one of my dumbass friends froze a bunch of azules because he did not lisen to me and use a fan to dry them so we did this with them. It was good and quite a nise trip.

If you thaw them they will turn to naste mush.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: baraka]
    #7994421 - 02/07/08 11:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Nothing wrong with frozen fresh shrooms.

So many ridiculous responses.

If they were fine before you froze them then they are fine now.

Id make a tea.

The hospital?
I dont think so.

Lots of bad advise givers here apparently.

If they were good before you froze them then they are just fine now, even though they look sort of ugly.

If you are eating them within 24 hours, just keep them how they are and make tea.
Dry them?
No.

You want to eat them, so make tea.
Drying will do you no good in any way.

Its safe, as long as they were good cubes to begin with.

Thats why you boil them no matter what problem you have with how they look after you froze them.

Its all good.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: yageman]
    #7994444 - 02/07/08 11:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Tea 'em or quaff 'em. No worries, just fun.

In the future, make a better effort in storage.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Crasher]
    #7994519 - 02/08/08 12:06 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Does anyone know if freezing them really does cause potency loss? Typically chemicals break down slower in the cold.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Moo456]
    #7994567 - 02/08/08 12:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No , the chemicals have their desired temp.

Frozen is not going to fuck up the potency.

If you freeze them and then thaw them and then dry them, you will know that this sort of bullshit will fuck with potency for obvious reasons.

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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7994592 - 02/08/08 12:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Throw that shit out...

Go hunting and get some more!

They grow everywhere!



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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: yageman]
    #7994598 - 02/08/08 12:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Are you saying that freezing them doesnt cause potency loss, but thawing them does?


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: baraka]
    #7995243 - 02/08/08 08:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if your really set on it, I personally would definitely not eat them, but an alcohol extraction I see no problem with. I can't see any dangerous bacteria living through that and your sure to trip still.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: krypto2000]
    #7995331 - 02/08/08 09:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The truth is, nobody here will know for sure whether or not they're ok to eat. Everyone will have a different opinion, so in the end it's really up to you.


If I were in your situation, I would probably just throw them away. Just because I hate puking, and wouldn't want to risk it from eating rotten and/or old shrooms. It'd probably ruin my trip if I had stomach discomfort through the entire thing.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: baraka]
    #7995349 - 02/08/08 09:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Those look kinda gross man :x
Make a tea


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: krypto2000]
    #7995357 - 02/08/08 09:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If you can't get food poisoning from slimy, very old mushrooms, then chow down!


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: 04281969]
    #7998965 - 02/09/08 01:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Do not try to thaw them. They will turn to shite. You should boil them into tea or do an alcohol extraction as is. You will be fine with either of these two methods. The potency will be fine. Next time dry them as soon as you can before storage. Don't listen to anyone else. Listen to me.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: BaldCuban]
    #7999202 - 02/09/08 06:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Alcohol extraction sounds like a good way to go.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7999203 - 02/09/08 06:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Those damn things look like a gay mans penis.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Cubie]
    #7999577 - 02/09/08 10:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well, to cut a long story short - we made tea out of them - they turned bright white and orange, exactly how they used to look, without a hint of blue on them.

We drank down the tea and nothing happened, we ate what was rest and nothing happened. NOTHING.

Either way, we ended up getting fucked up on weed, booze and nitrous, so it's all good.


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #8000464 - 02/09/08 02:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

how long inbetween he tea adn eating them. you def shoulda got a buzz. did you boil the shit out of them??


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Re: Freezing shrooms - Should they look like this [Re: Phoenix96]
    #8000595 - 02/09/08 03:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well what you posted didn't look like much at all.. not really a big enough dose to split it.

but yea.

you need a rating :tongue:


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