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elbisivni

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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: boomer q]
#7994334 - 02/07/08 10:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Romney also has his future presidential campaign to consider in making this decision. If he pours the rest of his money in attempting to make an unlikely comeback into this one it will likely mean no campaign come 2012.
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Nah. It was something I heard on NPR.
Was it in the context of "here's the new slander that political operatives and dumb and racist email-forwarding relatives have spread to tap in to people's most shameful bigotry"? Because otherwise you wouldn't have heard it on NPR.
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Hey Guy's, My name's Fraggin. I'm just a guy with an opinion like everyone else....
I never claimed you didn't have an opinion. I just claimed that said opinion betrays a casual racism and sexism, and isn't too well thought out(to put it lightly).
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Regardless of gender, Hillary is a Bitch.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you know Hillary on a personal level and find her to be a mean and abusive woman, and you're not just reacting to the possibility of being governed by an assertive and powerful woman with insecurity and fear like most men(and lots of women). Then again, considering you called her a bitch in the same breath as you went on to expose not only a disturbing ignorance but also ugly xenophobia and racism, I personally doubt it.
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And last time I checked, opposing a specific religeon is not racist.
No, but it's still bigoted. "You got me all wrong. I don't hate people with different skin color, just people from different cultures" is a pretty pathetic defense.
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Not to mention, we're slaughtering people on a daily basis that are driven by Islamic ideas, why would you want to put someone with a Muslim upbringing at the helm of a nation that is primarily Christian?
So we're at war with Islam? That's news to me. And probably to our government, which has taken great pains to dispel that very notion, because they realize that's exactly how Osama Bin Laden and others want to frame our "War on Terror". See, I thought we were fighting against terrorism and religious extremism(at least, abroad. We seem to have no problem with our own religious fanatics), not anyone who's ever turned to Mecca or glanced at the Koran. That's like saying "Well hey we're struggling against despotic African regimes so we shouldn't elect any black guys because they could be all like 'hey, mr. President of Sudan, I know things have been tense over that whole Darfur thing, but that's OK, cuz we brothers, you feel me? Kill Whitey! DYNOMITE!'"
What's offensive is that you're willing to impugn Obama's patriotism not because of any evidence or logic, but because he's black and his name sounds foreign("Obama? More like Osama bin Laden am i rite?"). That's racism. And the idea that a progressive presidential candidate who supports gay civil unions and the separation between church and state is somehow Osama Bin Laden's Manchurian Candidate is both paranoid and preposterous. Or, more succinctly, idiotic.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Seuss]
#7995382 - 02/08/08 09:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > Could you at least try?
Massive increase in taxes to pay off war debt along with all the socialist spending that will occur. Where the energy companies are profiting now, the pharmaceutical and medical companies will take their place. The war will continue, as that is the globalist agenda, regardless of political affiliation. Illegal aliens will be welcome with open arms to take jobs from poor Americans. And if Billary wins, we can expect tears to flow any time she doesn't get her way. Oh wait, that was a charade... I don't think the witch has real tears.
And this will all come about because of new justices in the supreme court who aren't neo-cons? I don't see it. Could you explain how a couple of more Alitos would prevent the above from happening?
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: zappaisgod]
#7995537 - 02/08/08 09:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phred said: There's almost no way to describe how much damage a Leftie SCOTUS will do in four decades.
Could you at least try? You haven't provided any specifics, whereas right off the top of my head I can think of some permanent disasters two more Alitos could easily pull off:
No more reproductive freedom No freedom for gay marriage or civil union No stem cell research
Why not? Those are all legislatively possible. The Court can't forbid those things, it can only say that the legislature can't forbid them. It says a lot about you that you prefer the rule of oligarchs instead of a democracy.
So you would have no problem if the supreme court banned abortion, stem cell research and gay marriage nationwide? I don't see why they couldn't.
And what is this about me preferring the rule of oligarchs? I don't even understand what you're referencing.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Yossarian22]
#7995715 - 02/08/08 10:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yossarian22 said: Was it in the context of "here's the new slander that political operatives and dumb and racist email-forwarding relatives have spread to tap in to people's most shameful bigotry"? Because otherwise you wouldn't have heard it on NPR.
Ummm.. No. It was about reservations voter's had with Obama's background.
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I never claimed you didn't have an opinion. I just claimed that said opinion betrays a casual racism and sexism, and isn't too well thought out(to put it lightly).
Wrong... You straight up called me a misogynist, a racist, AND an idiot with no reference to my opinion.
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you know Hillary on a personal level and find her to be a mean and abusive woman, and you're not just reacting to the possibility of being governed by an assertive and powerful woman with insecurity and fear like most men(and lots of women). Then again, considering you called her a bitch in the same breath as you went on to expose not only a disturbing ignorance but also ugly xenophobia and racism, I personally doubt it.
What does it matter what a call her, a bitch, a cougar, a wampus cat. It's irrelevant. You can hardly assume I'm xenophobic based on an internet post about politics, and you really don't know me enough to call me a racist. And culture is not your friend in any circumstance. Would you be xenophoic of a cannabalistic culture, and hate them because they eat people? If you say no, you're a fucking scab ass lier. And if you say yes, would it be xenophobia or just common sense to stay away from people that eat their own kind?
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And last time I checked, opposing a specific religeon is not racist.
No, but it's still bigoted. "You got me all wrong. I don't hate people with different skin color, just people from different cultures" is a pretty pathetic defense.
I never said hate, now you're just putting words in my mouth. I'm not your strawman.
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Not to mention, we're slaughtering people on a daily basis that are driven by Islamic ideas, why would you want to put someone with a Muslim upbringing at the helm of a nation that is primarily Christian?
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So we're at war with Islam? That's news to me.
Those are your words, not mine. We're at war to stabilize resources we need to attain a standard of society, however, Many Islamic groups try to get in the way of that, and we slaughter them. Once again, you're putting words in my mouth. You're proving yourself to be more and more of a bigot since you're attacking every view, idea, perspective and opnion I've portrayed, just because YOU, don't agree.
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And probably to our government, which has taken great pains to dispel that very notion, because they realize that's exactly how Osama Bin Laden and others want to frame our "War on Terror". See, I thought we were fighting against terrorism and religious extremism(at least, abroad.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. It all comes back to culture, which, is not your friend.
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We seem to have no problem with our own religious fanatics), not anyone who's ever turned to Mecca or glanced at the Koran. That's like saying "Well hey we're struggling against despotic African regimes so we shouldn't elect any black guys because they could be all like 'hey, mr. President of Sudan, I know things have been tense over that whole Darfur thing, but that's OK, cuz we brothers, you feel me? Kill Whitey! DYNOMITE!'"
Our own religeous fanatics are not stoning women for adultery and removing the heads of foreigners with dull machettes. The primary focus on the violence of certain extremist groups. And as far as being able to identify with one group or another, it becomes more of a possibility when the structure of understanding and mutual respect exists. Obviously you don't understand.
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What's offensive is that you're willing to impugn Obama's patriotism not because of any evidence or logic, but because he's black
I can't find anywhere in any of my posts where I eluded to his skin color. You jumped to that conclusion pretty quickly. Racism is only a problem when it is evident. I'm not racist guy. You keep going back to that, so obviously you have some kind of hang up with racism. That's the interesting dynamic about racism. It's a dichotomous issue. Racism has to be taught and cultured to exist. And when people like you, are quick to point out racism in others, it only accelerates the idea of racism. It's comparable to giving a 5 year old a list of bad words that he should not say. He should go ahead and read them and memorize them so that he knows they are bad. It's people like you with a total lack of understanding on the process of cultural fallacies that keep ugly issues like racism alive.
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and his name sounds foreign("Obama? More like Osama bin Laden am i rite?").
Yet another judgemental undertone that you incenuated that I eluded to in which I did not.
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That's racism.
Thanks for rejuvinating my mind with the ideals or racism. I had almost managed to think that I wasn't involved with anyone that was struggling with Racism. Apparently you like to turn people into racists by turning slights in their personalities into damning principles.
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And the idea that a progressive presidential candidate who supports gay civil unions and the separation between church and state is somehow Osama Bin Laden's Manchurian Candidate is both paranoid and preposterous. Or, more succinctly, idiotic.
Seems to me, like you're offended by the stance that I chose to take, and have a right to take, towards the candidates that are competing for the chance to hold our highest office in government. If this bothers you, then perhaps you should find some other interest, like stamp collecting, or catching bugs or something.
I'm an insignifigant voter to an extent. All I will provide is a tally mark. Your personal views on others' opinons are so delusional that you are willing to attack anyone who doesn't conform to your Utopia idealology. You've labled me, called me names, assumed my perception to be, and above all, conveyed how offended you are with my ideas......
How do you think it feels for someone to be called a xenophobe and a racist whos is farther from being either of those than you may be?
tsk,tsk,tsk.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Diploid]
#7997975 - 02/08/08 08:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney will suspend his campaign
THANK GOD!!!
what a fucking prick
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words cannot express the rage I feel when I watch this video clip.
what a complete ass, fucking die already
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: wps]
#7998075 - 02/08/08 09:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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What an asshat! Fuck him!
There was a great clip of him on the Daily Show last night saying something along the lines that if Hillary or Obama got elected it would be a great victory for the terrorist.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: wps]
#7998082 - 02/08/08 09:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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words cannot express the rage I feel when I watch this video clip.
He's brainwashed by DARE propaganda... just like many Shroomerites. Propaganda WORKS! And the stoopider the audience the better it works.
Read the link in my signature for a really depressing example.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: wps]
#7998158 - 02/08/08 09:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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"I have the same answer I had last week when when you asked the question."
Wow. I think that's a first for him.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: zorbman]
#7999762 - 02/09/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ah yes the marijuana = gateway drug (non)argument. I don't really believe in gateway drugs (except for perhaps morphine -> heroin) but I think my gateway drug would have to be gee, let me think.. prescription medication or alcohol, both legal - yahtzee!
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: elbisivni]
#7999910 - 02/09/08 12:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Many people who don't want to risk losing their job to failing a piss test opt for 'hard' drugs like meth, MDMA, opiates, and RCs rather than smoke pot because the 'hard' drugs clear in a long weekend (3 to 5 days), but pot can take a month.
So... it seems that drug testing is the gateway drug.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Diploid]
#8000829 - 02/09/08 04:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Many people who don't want to risk losing their job to failing a piss test opt for 'hard' drugs like meth, MDMA, opiates, and RCs rather than smoke pot because the 'hard' drugs clear in a long weekend (3 to 5 days), but pot can take a month.
So... it seems that drug testing is the gateway drug.
Never looked at it that way, interesting viewpoint tho
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Phred]
#8001886 - 02/09/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phred said: Well that sucks.
So the US is headed for a fucked up four years. The only question left to answer is just HOW fucked up.
Phred
So true. Sad but true.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Phred]
#8003669 - 02/10/08 04:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Now theres all the evangelicals supporting Huckabee and McCain at the age of 70 so i guess for the republicans now it all comes down to who's closest to God.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: SheerTerror]
#8005203 - 02/10/08 04:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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We can no longer rely on the government. We must stand up and take care of ourselves.
No government has a hold on me. I am a man before anything. And I am my own man. Ill fight for my beliefs my rights and my land. Be the enemy forign or domestic.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Cubie]
#8005207 - 02/10/08 04:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, you won't.
That's just talk.
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You would be surprized.
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Madtowntripper said: Does having a Muslim parent = a Muslim upbringing?
And that somehow bars him from office?
Get the fuck out of town.
His father was brought up a Muslim, but for a long time has been a confirmed ATHEIST. Get your facts straight people.
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