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Romney Dropping Out
#7991113 - 02/07/08 10:48 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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WASHINGTON, Feb 7 (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney will suspend his campaign, a Republican Party source said on Thursday, a decision that would make Sen. John McCain the all-but-certain nominee of his party.
A Republican Party source said the former Massachusetts governor might make his suspension announcement in a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Thursday.
"Romney's run a good campaign and he can live to fight another day," said the source familiar with the situation, speaking on condition of anonymity. "He has a huge future in the party nationally."
Romney lost 14 of 21 states on Super Tuesday, the biggest day of U.S. presidential voting ahead of November's election, as Arizona Sen. McCain savored coast-to-coast wins and cemented his position as front-runner.
He had vowed to fight on after Super Tuesday, but he and his campaign advisers discussed the situation on Wednesday. Romney has been helping to bankroll his campaign using his own personal wealth.
The McCain campaign declined immediate comment.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Diploid]
#7991177 - 02/07/08 11:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well that sucks.
So the US is headed for a fucked up four years. The only question left to answer is just HOW fucked up.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Phred]
#7991205 - 02/07/08 11:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Romney = Loser
i hope Huckabee can pick up the votes hes gonna miss out on, those crazy right wing folks hate McCain... i think Huckabee is by far the most likable of the republicans
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: boomer q]
#7991235 - 02/07/08 11:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't get it. Romney dropped out because it was mathematically almost impossible for him to beat MacCain. And Romney had more delegates than Huckabee. Therefore, McCain (barring his dropping dead before November) will be the Republican presidential candidate.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Phred]
#7991290 - 02/07/08 11:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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no, i get it. romney failed at winning, thus he is a loser
now the only "conservative" alternative to mccain is huckabee, so he should expect to pick up more of the votes which would have gone to romney. theres a pretty sizable and very vocal group of conservatives which cant stand mccain, and want to vote for someone other than him. did i say anything about huckabee winning? no, but i dont like the idea that a candidate is already chosen without giving the remaining states much of a say in it. so i would like to see huckabee do well, and maybe win a few unexpected states and start polling over 20%. thats what id like to see, a race that goes all the way to the convention. whats wrong with that? what dont i get?
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: boomer q]
#7991317 - 02/07/08 11:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i like the idea of someone standing up for what they believe in, if they truly do believe in themselves and have differences from the other candidates, even if they dont have much of a chance to win....like ron paul, you dont see him dropping out just cause hes only got 14 delegates...
if i was romney i would have at least not talked a ton about how i was gonna keep fighting after super tuesday no matter how i do, the same way john edwards kept talking about taking it all the way to the convention, if your continuing the race only based on how your gonna do, you shouldnt make absolute statements about how long you are gonna stay in
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: boomer q]
#7991320 - 02/07/08 11:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good riddance. I'm sure he'll be welcomed back in Massachusetts. Oh wait, he belittled and slimed his home state in his shameless pandering campaign and is almost universally reviled there. Oh well, there's still Utah.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Yossarian22]
#7991371 - 02/07/08 11:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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plus, i would argue that it wasent "mathematically" impossible for him to win, you need 1191 delegates to win...theres 1067 delegates remaining to be chosen, about 45% of the delegates, mccain has 714, romney had 286...whats 286 plus 1067? its more than 1191 isnt it? so how does that qualify as being "mathematically" impossible? ... it might be highly unlikely that he would win all the delegates, but im not sure how you can say that its mathematically impossible for him to win, if you wanna say its impossible based on how he and mccain are polling in states thats one thing, but there is a definition of the word mathematically, and the way its being applied is wrong...if mccain had 1191 delegates then it would be mathematically impossible for romney to win
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Phred]
#7991394 - 02/07/08 12:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phred said: Well that sucks.
So the US is headed for a fucked up four years. The only question left to answer is just HOW fucked up.
We got through the last eight
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Phred]
#7991396 - 02/07/08 12:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phred said: Well that sucks.
So the US is headed for a fucked up four years. The only question left to answer is just HOW fucked up.
Phred
No way McCain would beat out Hillary or Obama. Be looking for fucked upness out of those two.
I don't get what is going on.
The NH polls should that 67% of republicans voting were against the war, yet they delivered the win to Pro war, 100 years in Iraq , Bomb Bomb Iran singing McCain.
In Florida, polls showed the the economy was the biggest issue with Republican voters. They delivered the win " I don't know shit about economics" admitting McCain.

I think Obama will end up more popular in the end, but Hillary has the super delegates in her pocket and the Queen of the neocons is telling her court to vote Hillary over McCain.
Bill and Hillary back in the WH for 4 more years. Unbelievable.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: boomer q]
#7991410 - 02/07/08 12:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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What part of
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Romney dropped out because it was mathematically almost impossible for him to beat MacCain.
did I fail to make clear?
As for Huckabee, anyone who thinks McCain is only gonna pick up another 73 delegates by the time the last primary has been tallied is someone naive enough to believe Ron Paul ever had a chance of becoming the Republican nominee.
Why on earth would Huckabee keep campaigning knowing he can't win? Why spend all that money and energy for nothing?
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Phred]
#7991432 - 02/07/08 12:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phred said: Well that sucks.
So the US is headed for a fucked up four years. The only question left to answer is just HOW fucked up.
Phred
So melodramatic.
You'll be okay, I promise. The country is stronger than you think it is. I think the last 7 years have been a disaster, but we're still alive and kicking.
You'll be fine.
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> You don't get it. Romney dropped out because it was mathematically almost impossible for him to beat MacCain.
Literally impossible, or highly improbable? With 2380 delegates available, there are still 1183 up for grab (assuming I did my math correctly). I may be missing something, but from the cheap seats, it appears that improbable is more accurate than impossible. If McCain were to get 0 delegates from now on, and Romney were to get all available delegates from now on, who would win the nomination?
> I think the last 7 years have been a disaster,
Personally, I am worried about the eight years prior to the last seven repeating themselves, resulting in another mess like we are in now. The only thing we need less than another eight years of Bush dynasty is another eight years of Clinton dynasty.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Phred]
#7991445 - 02/07/08 12:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Phred said: Well that sucks.
So the US is headed for a fucked up four years. The only question left to answer is just HOW fucked up.
Phred
Let’s just get this crap over with and vote for the WORSE of two evils.
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gettinjiggywithit said: No way McCain would beat out Hillary or Obama. Be looking for fucked upness out of those two.
I'm not so sure about that. When I picture a McCain vs. Clinton election I see an opportunity for the GOP smear machine to really get its feet wet (not to say that the DNC isn't just as underhanded, I just think the Republican party is better at making their opponnent look terrible). I think Obama is a harder target. Less dirt on his hands, and not as much of a foil in personna to McCain's tough guy image, which is probably the best thing McCain has going for him. Despite the unpopularity of the war, the American public has a permanent John Wayne fetish.
About Romney dropping out: The first thing I saw today on the DC metro on my way to work was a headline "McCain calls for unity within the GOP." Then the next thing I hear, Romney is dropping out. The politics within politics is always amusing to watch.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Seuss]
#7991495 - 02/07/08 12:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think Huckabee is by far the most likable of the republicans
If crazy, Christian fundamentalists who believe that the role of religion should be expanded in government are your bag, then sure.
By the way... anyone notice that Huckabee kinda looks like the dad from Son-in-Law?

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jiggy writes:
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No way McCain would beat out Hillary or Obama. Be looking for fucked upness out of those two.
I disagree that McCain wouldn't beat Hillary. He'd beat her like a rented mule.
Obama is a different question, but I personally think there's enough time between now and November for the voters to realize electing the closest thing to a Commie currently serving in the US Senate is a bad idea. Therefore, McCain wins that matchup as well, though perhaps not by as much.
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Re: Romney Dropping Out [Re: Phred]
#7991540 - 02/07/08 12:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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What if we do not know who the Dem Nomination is until August...Only 7-8 weeks before the Gen election?
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Madtowntripper writes:
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You'll be okay, I promise. The country is stronger than you think it is. I think the last 7 years have been a disaster, but we're still alive and kicking.
The biggest concern isn't the four years the US will suffer under a liberal president, but the possible four decades more the US will suffer with a left-leaning Supreme Court. There will certainly be at the very least two Supremes appointed between now and 2012, and maybe as many as four. There's almost no way to describe how much damage a Leftie SCOTUS will do in four decades.
This is why I shudder at the thought of even a McCain win. Given his disdain of Judge Alito and his role as one of the Gang of Fourteen, I'm unsure he can be counted on to appoint non-activist judges no matter what he says now on the campaign trail.
The US can survive almost any number of bad decisions by an executive in a mere four year stretch. But it cannot survive the steady stream of legislation from the bench a Leftie SCOTUS would churn out over the course of decades.
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I mostly say McCain can't do it is because of voter turn out. The Dems have been creaming the Republicans in voter turn out. The Republican party shrunk to much over the last 8 years.
America has already heard the dirt on Hillary.
McCain is the one, who could easily be shredded further with new news to them.
People in NH said they came across people who voted for McCain because they thought he wanted to end the war because he was a POW.
There are who knows how many people who voted for him that don't even know much about him other then that he is a Senator, was a POW and has a popular name in Politics. They can hear much more from the Democrat machine to turn them off to McCain come general election time.
That's all even as if you were looking at this as if we have fair elections and a fair media at play.
I think Hillary was was the puppeteers pick from the get go and it looks like the the staged illusion was not able to be dispelled in this round.
I'll bet just one person here $100 that the Dems will win the WH.
Who wants it?
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